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Re: Post while tripping! [Re: epilectric]
#28537405 - 11/10/23 03:55 PM (2 months, 16 days ago) |
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epilectric said: ~15mg 4-aco nasally.. Rgvs text is more colorful than meaningful
sure sure sure, but what do you MEAN? I see you bit off more than you flew.
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epilectric
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Help me guys i have an overdose, my heart beat so fast that i couldn't sense singular beats.. My fingers got numb. Is this normal? Is this dangerous? Must've been 30-40 mg. Right now i'm nauseaus and mentally unstable
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Re: Post while tripping! [Re: epilectric]
#28537433 - 11/10/23 04:18 PM (2 months, 16 days ago) |
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IIRC people have done upwards of 100mg of 4-aco-dmt , according to psychonautwiki you are still under the maximum heavy dosage so remain calm , you are just on a high dose
I particularly did not like 4acodmt I used 20mg and it was very intense
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Follow your breaths, put your favorite music on close your eyes and feel all your feelings , go right into them let the river flow
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Ok thx so far but why did the heart beat so fast that my fingers got numb? Crazy
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Re: Post while tripping! [Re: epilectric] 1
#28537444 - 11/10/23 04:26 PM (2 months, 16 days ago) |
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Heart beating faster likely from panic and anxiety setting in ontop of the physiological effects of psychedelic drugs in general , body temp fluctuations, muscle spasms , increased heart rate etc
Hands numb ....not sure if I've ever experienced that from what I can remember , surely some searching could be done on that
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In my past post I was on a 9 gram adventure. I remember I spent what seemed like hours to make the simple post βhiβ. I could simply not navigate any type of technology.
A lot of personal epiphanies and probably was the most intense trip of my life. I was still thinking about it a week later.
I remembered during my trip I was laughing so hard thinking of sounds and language. I spent a lot of time to no avail to post the things I was laughing so intensely at (luckily so in retrospect) Anyways, these are the only notes I wrote down from the trip.
βThe train made a symphony that the the sad thoughts in my mind filled in the gaps (It was 3 in the morning and It was silent, and I heard the distant sound of train horns)
Fickle tidgewidget hornsnobble frumptuous balandarni
Iβm funny (I was having a weird moment with what language and sound mean)
Insanity I feel it Hell I feel it But I have an escape and time left Is that what time is? But the cleft
The gap between the densest rock. Feeling air between our lock
I can leave it. Time to grasp. Time to wait and time to hold.
There is nothing to hold. There is no time. Only sad you alone. Everyone comes back to it. Everyone is you. And you love yourself (no idea. But I remember laughing really hard)
Itβs all okay. You love yourself and they know you love them in the same way. Selfless (I was worried that my loved ones did not know how much they meant to me)
Mumachoodie floodswip horndig (I was tripping hard)
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Re: Post while tripping! [Re: Chamo] 2
#28537673 - 11/10/23 07:02 PM (2 months, 16 days ago) |
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Feeling better again, nausea and mental instability has faded for the most part
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Re: Post while tripping! [Re: epilectric] 1
#28537713 - 11/10/23 07:33 PM (2 months, 16 days ago) |
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sorry I fell asleep I hope you found your way to the washroom and could sit on toilet or drink water until the blackouts stopped and you felt steady again, which is what I would have done.
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Re: Post while tripping! [Re: epilectric] 1
#28537715 - 11/10/23 07:34 PM (2 months, 16 days ago) |
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I hope you are okay, my friend.
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Re: Post while tripping! [Re: Chamo]
#28537750 - 11/10/23 08:09 PM (2 months, 16 days ago) |
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I wish he wasnβt afraid of medical bills and could have gotten checked out.
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Chamo
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We are all personally responsible for the drugs (and quantities) we ingest.
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Re: Post while tripping! [Re: Chamo] 3
#28537822 - 11/10/23 09:10 PM (2 months, 16 days ago) |
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Always practice harm reduction. Use scales. But my statement applies to every health scare we just wait on because we canβt afford to just get checked out.
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Chamo
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I just hope he is okay
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epilectric
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redgreenvines said: sorry I fell asleep I hope you found your way to the washroom and could sit on toilet or drink water until the blackouts stopped and you felt steady again, which is what I would have done.
Hi guys i'm fine again. Well i couldn't sit still and had to move around, eventually took a walk for fresh air and bought a Pepsi while texting with my siblings considering calling ambulance and getting benzo.. I didn't have blackouts just tryptamine ego fragmenting, nausea, a general feeling of unwellbeing and this crazy fast heartbeat with numb fingers in the beginning.. Well in the end it wasn't all that bad. Just a strong trip i guess. Probably won't repeat any time soon
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Re: Post while tripping! [Re: epilectric] 4
#28538201 - 11/11/23 07:24 AM (2 months, 16 days ago) |
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Glad to hear you are feeling better. Take some time to relax and reflect when it feels right.
I took a way too high eyeballed amount of 4aco one time, it was initially a rough ride very much like you described - Elevated heart rate, hyperventilating, weird sensations etc - fight or flight response. But once I accepted the situation I had gotten myself into these began to melt away.
Even when my sober mind is overstimulated/anxious from resisting something, my body follows suit. IME psychs amplify both the fear part and also the feeling of peace on the other side of it, and acceptance is the wall in between those two extremes (which I am not particularly good at)
Taking a difficult experience and doing your best with it is all you can ever do, both in psychedelics and day to day life. Figuring out what factors led me into βbadβ experiences has allowed me to learn a lot about myself.
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Re: Post while tripping! [Re: Nonagon]
#28538225 - 11/11/23 07:46 AM (2 months, 16 days ago) |
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Thanks that is reassuring to hear. How much did you take there? I just weighed the rest and it must've been around 40mg nasally
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Re: Post while tripping! [Re: epilectric] 2
#28538381 - 11/11/23 09:37 AM (2 months, 15 days ago) |
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Going up on 5 drops 625 ug approx just started
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Re: Post while tripping! [Re: BasicTek]
#28538382 - 11/11/23 09:39 AM (2 months, 15 days ago) |
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 You already have your vacations itinerary printed out I assume. π€£
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I found this on my harm reduction walk yesterday... 4 aco... Accor 4. According. Things are in harmony, everything is fine as it should be
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