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Invisiblethetruthsohelp
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Corruption
    #28271327 - 04/10/23 04:05 PM (9 months, 13 days ago)

I know this place is a den of theives for far left ideologues. Having said that I do wonder whether the left and the right could come together around one central issue and that issue might well be corruption?

Within the US system with all its checks and balances there seems to be missing an emphasis on oversight and accountability when it comes to lobbying. It wont be news to anyone that politicians that start out earning x amount of money through there primary income end up multimillionairs from back room deals, insider trading or through NGO's or other supposidbly "charitable" ventures?

Could we all then agree that perhaps lobbying itself should perhaps be banned or at least there should be some more regulations or some lawful means of accountability when it comes to how much career politicans of both stripes can make during their time in office?

Isn't it just a bit insane to contemplate how much the Pelosi's have made Nancy has been in power? Or Joe Biden for that matter? I'm sure you could add a whole swath of right wing politicians to that list too.

When generations in the future look back from perhaps what I hope to be a better future, might not they proclaim that this time was the time of degenerate lack of political accountability when it comes to outright corruption of our political class?


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Re: Corruption [Re: thetruthsohelp]
    #28271334 - 04/10/23 04:13 PM (9 months, 13 days ago)

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Isn't it just a bit insane to contemplate how much the Pelosi's have made Nancy has been in power? Or Joe Biden for that matter? I



How much have they made ?


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Re: Corruption [Re: Psilynut2]
    #28271355 - 04/10/23 04:37 PM (9 months, 13 days ago)



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Re: Corruption [Re: thetruthsohelp]
    #28271432 - 04/10/23 05:24 PM (9 months, 13 days ago)

The article doesn't say anything about the money Nancy is getting from lobbyists.


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Re: Corruption [Re: thetruthsohelp] * 1
    #28271434 - 04/10/23 05:25 PM (9 months, 13 days ago)

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Within the US system with all its checks and balances there seems to be missing an emphasis on oversight and accountability when it comes to lobbying. It wont be news to anyone that politicians that start out earning x amount of money through there primary income end up multimillionairs from back room deals, insider trading or through NGO's or other supposidbly "charitable" ventures?




I don’t think this happens the way you describe it. It’s already quite illegal for politicians to take money from lobbyists. Insider trading is also illegal, and quite a number of politicians have gone to prison for it.

Generally, aside from already being rich and having their wealth increase the same way all rich people get more wealthy through investment, most politicians don’t really cash in until they have left office.

As for Nancy pelosi, I’ve never seen any evidence she engages in insider trading and her stock portfolio looks pretty boilerplate to me. A lot of big name companies. Her husband is a San Francisco venture capitalist, which pretty much explains how they have gotten so wealthy:


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    #28271438 - 04/10/23 05:28 PM (9 months, 13 days ago)

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Or Joe Biden for that matter? I



Joe Biden made most of his money off books sales during the four years he wasn’t serving in elected office.

36 years earning a senators salary and eight years with a vice presidential salary, a best selling book and now 2 years as president, there is nothing really impressive about Bidens net worth. Any disciplined adult who has earned $3+ million in salary alone should be worth at least $10 million.


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Re: Corruption [Re: koods]
    #28271449 - 04/10/23 05:33 PM (9 months, 13 days ago)

Well OK, your entitled to that opinion. Its more or less common knowledge that many politicians start out with very little and 'somehow' become extremly weathly during their time in office. Of course there are laws, but laws that are not enforced due to political pull is certainly a factor. Just look at the money Biden has recieved from China......but of course i'm sure most of the lefties here are all eyes wide shut about that issue.

In any case, do you think that perhaps it might be a good idea to prevent sitting memebers of congress from trade stocks during their terms? Seems like a pretty reasonable thing to me.


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Re: Corruption [Re: thetruthsohelp]
    #28271458 - 04/10/23 05:39 PM (9 months, 13 days ago)

It seems to me that having a president or past president living in poverty is just asking for more corruption.


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    #28271461 - 04/10/23 05:41 PM (9 months, 13 days ago)

The vast majority of politicians are wealthy before they run for office.

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Just look at the money Biden has recieved from China......but of course i'm sure most of the lefties here are all eyes wide shut about that issue.





What money is that? I hear this all the time, but never any specifics.


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    #28271471 - 04/10/23 05:44 PM (9 months, 13 days ago)

After serving a term as president I think they deserve a nice beach house or whatever to chill.


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Re: Corruption [Re: mycosis]
    #28271477 - 04/10/23 05:46 PM (9 months, 13 days ago)

Beach House you say? BUT WHATABOUT CLIMATE CHANGE! lol


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    #28271479 - 04/10/23 05:47 PM (9 months, 13 days ago)

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koods said:
The vast majority of politicians are wealthy before they run for office.

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Just look at the money Biden has recieved from China......but of course i'm sure most of the lefties here are all eyes wide shut about that issue.





What money is that? I hear this all the time, but never any specifics.




https://oversight.house.gov/release/comer-reveals-biden-family-members-receiving-payments-from-chinese-energy-company%EF%BF%BC/


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    #28271482 - 04/10/23 05:47 PM (9 months, 13 days ago)

It’s not even on the beach. His backyard is a canal and then a swamp.


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    #28271483 - 04/10/23 05:48 PM (9 months, 13 days ago)

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Beach House you say? BUT WHATABOUT CLIMATE CHANGE! lol




What?


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    #28271487 - 04/10/23 05:49 PM (9 months, 13 days ago)

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It’s not even on the beach. His backyard is a canal and then a swamp.



Drain that swamp and have beach front property! :naughty:


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Re: Corruption [Re: koods]
    #28271489 - 04/10/23 05:49 PM (9 months, 13 days ago)

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Beach House you say? BUT WHATABOUT CLIMATE CHANGE! lol




What?





What what?


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Re: Corruption [Re: thetruthsohelp]
    #28271494 - 04/10/23 05:51 PM (9 months, 13 days ago)

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koods said:
The vast majority of politicians are wealthy before they run for office.

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Just look at the money Biden has recieved from China......but of course i'm sure most of the lefties here are all eyes wide shut about that issue.





What money is that? I hear this all the time, but never any specifics.




https://oversight.house.gov/release/comer-reveals-biden-family-members-receiving-payments-from-chinese-energy-company%EF%BF%BC/




Link doesn’t work, but based on the URL it doesn’t seem like that report is about Joe Biden.


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    #28271499 - 04/10/23 05:53 PM (9 months, 13 days ago)

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koods said:
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thetruthsohelp said:
Beach House you say? BUT WHATABOUT CLIMATE CHANGE! lol




What?





What what?




What does a beach house have to do with climate change?


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Re: Corruption [Re: koods]
    #28271508 - 04/10/23 05:57 PM (9 months, 13 days ago)

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koods said:
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thetruthsohelp said:
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koods said:
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thetruthsohelp said:
Beach House you say? BUT WHATABOUT CLIMATE CHANGE! lol




What?





What what?




What does a beach house have to do with climate change?




Ask Al Gore, he pretty much said all those beach front places would be underwater like 7 years ago now.


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    #28271529 - 04/10/23 06:06 PM (9 months, 13 days ago)

Unlike almost all the houses in rehoboth, the bidens house is built on stilts and the first floor is 10 feet above ground level. I stayed at house in the same neighborhood last year and the back yard flooded at high tide. So yeah, sea level rise is definitely a concern, which is probably why the Bidens decided to buy a house with that in mind.


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