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sudly
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Re: Mass Hysteria/Psyhosis [Re: Rahz]
#28292610 - 04/24/23 08:37 AM (9 months, 5 hours ago) |
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You are the one conflating the issues of sexualisation and medicalisation of children by sharing links that suggest being transgender is inherently linked to these issues.
What shouldn't be conflated is sex and gender, because there are discernible differences as I've mentioned.
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While sex refers to the biological characteristics that determine male and female, gender encompasses social and cultural expectations and roles associated with masculinity and femininity.
Again though, supporting trans youth and their right to self determination is not about 'helping kids decide if they're a boy or a girl.' It is about creating a safe and affirming environment for young people to express their gender identity without fear of discrimination or violence.
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Re: Mass Hysteria/Psyhosis [Re: sudly]
#28294814 - 04/25/23 01:40 PM (8 months, 30 days ago) |
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sudly said: Okay thanks, looks like there is evidence suggesting Glyphosate has impacts on endocrine systems but I'm not sure it's clear to what extent, with what concentrations and how other factors interplay, but it seems a serious issue worth considering.
finding the smoking gun on the exact mechanism by which glyphosate causes a systemic dysregulation was difficult, but the evidence has been pouring in, and it adds up! how much longer do you think it can be ignored, disreguarded, and/or covered up? the extent of this is unbelievably mind blowing! glyphosate is not just in food, and soil; it’s in the rain and the air. glyphosate is water soluble!
natural bacteria and fungi are being decimated by glyphosate! monsato swore that glyphosate was safe, bc it’s main mechanism of action is on the shikimate pathway, and there is no direct shikimate pathway in humans, however, the shikimate pathway in bacteria and fungi is inhibited by glyphosate, which then interacts with a humans internal ecosystem of bacteria and fungi! glyphosate toxicity disregulates the communication network that supports bacteria and fungi which supports the protein structures not only in the gut lining, but in every macro membrane in the body, including the holiest of holies, the blood brain barrier!
humans must coexist with the non-human species that live inside of them, but the rate at which the genome of the internal non-human ecosystem is changing is at a mismatch with the rate of change of the human genome!
is it possible that those who are experiencing gender dysphoria, that the primary physiological mechanism leading to this, is an extreme dysregulation of the endocrine system, caused by the individuals own microbiome/mycobiome being mismatched with their human genome, which is caused by the natural bacteria and fungi of planet earth being decimated due to glyphosate!?
the real public health crisis (not the imaginary one that i won’t mention by name) is that earth's ecosystem is damaged, and it should be no wonder that there is a very profound cost to human health due to this damaged ecosystem!
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I already have so many people on ignore
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Rahz
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Perhaps asking for sources would be helpful. Or disregard. I've never felt the need to put anyone on ignore.
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amoung the open-minded conversation prevails! a dogmatist cannot know true dialogue!
for some reason it was decided that the mass hysteria/psychosis of pulling the (imaginary) global viral pandemic alarm, wld be less chaotic than the mass hysteria/psychosis that would come with speaking the truth!
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sudly
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Regarding the idea that glyphosate may be contributing to gender dysphoria, there is currently no conclusive evidence to support the claim.
Millions of people died at a much higher rate than a flu from Covid.
There was hysteria because it was a deadly pandemic we didn't have a vaccine for. Much of that has died down since.
You're straight spitting falsehoods by saying Covid was imaginary, which in my view is one of the most paradoxically stupid things anyone could ever say.
And then you top it off with more rhetorical speculation.
There is the saying that it's good to be opened minded, but not so open minded your brain falls out, and I think that applies here pretty well.
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Re: Mass Hysteria/Psyhosis [Re: sudly]
#28294963 - 04/25/23 03:34 PM (8 months, 29 days ago) |
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there is conclusive evidence, through connecting the dots using first principles! paradigm shifts happen when the evidence gets so overwhelming that it becomes obvious!
there was hysteria because once something is named, it holds power, and a deadly pandemic was named! without a name, it would not exist, and it wld hold no power!
why do you think my thoughts are too open when i say that humans have been poisoned, and are poisoning themselves, and this is the global health crisis that is not the crisis that you were told it was?
of course, let us not see this modern public health crisis go to waste! let’s capitalize on it! government budgets, including health service and oversight agencies are dependent on big pharma money!
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I dont quite understand how this thread got so out of hand and ridiculous. But I guess this thread does prove my intial point though, so whatever.
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We have only scratched the surface of how wack the world is.
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sudly
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Connect the dots.. brilliant, can't wait to see it in a journal. 
You called it a deadly pandemic and question the hysteria surrounding Covid? There was confusion sure, but merited concern.
You said, "(imaginary) global viral pandemic."
By all means clarify you were joking when you said imaginary global pandemic in regards to covid, keep that brain in its holster!
Universal healthcare would save $5 trillion over 10 years in the US by cutting out the rapacious for profit middle men of insurance companies. And I do agree that it is a travesty when medications developed through public funding become privatised and price gouged.
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Re: Mass Hysteria/Psyhosis [Re: sudly]
#28296012 - 04/26/23 09:40 AM (8 months, 29 days ago) |
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Rahz said:
I've never felt the need to put anyone on ignore.
It's a curious urge that can reveal a lot about us.
It's funny that one brain can find another brain so incredibly disgusting.
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It is about creating a safe and affirming environment for young people to express their gender identity without fear of discrimination or violence.
I notice people who promote "safe spaces" for some groups are only concerned about certain groups and never all groups that are under attack. People promoting "safe spaces" consistently engage in discrimination & bias. Equity and inclusion go out the window.
They never want to protect the people they hate.
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The ones I have on ignore are ones whose comments have a repetitious pattern justifying stupidity.
By ignoring I will not get drawn into a dialog with them that becomes their megaphone 📣
It's a constructive boundary issue.
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Re: Mass Hysteria/Psyhosis [Re: sudly]
#28296201 - 04/26/23 12:58 PM (8 months, 29 days ago) |
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just to be clear, when i said covid is imaginary, i do not mean that ppl did not get very ill! i just meant the cause of the illness is different than what is thought!
Direct Effects of Glyphosate on In Vitro T Helper Cell Differentiation and Cytokine Production
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Even if still controversial, the ability of G to activate ER in vitro has been demonstrated (34, 36), and confirmations also came from experimental animals, showing ERα activation following herbicide exposure in male and female rats (37, 38). The possible role of ER in G-immunotoxicity is strengthened by the ability of estrogens to influence Th1 and Th2 responses, with a promotion toward Th2 activity (39), and to allergic airway inflammation (40). Estrogens can act on immune cells through both ERα and β (41, 42). ERs are involved in shaping the differentiation of Th cells, affecting transcriptional regulation, with possible consequences in inflammation (43). In this study, the role of ER was demonstrated, by the ability of ICI able to restore IFN-γ and IL-4 modulation, and results further support the endocrine disrupting activity of G (44).
G shown a non-monotonic dose-response relationship in its toxic effects against Th. Many endocrine disruptors, and mainly estrogenic substances, display this characteristic (45), strengthening the hypothesis of G considered as an endocrine disruptor. Some possible explanations to this phenomenon could be the cytotoxicity at high concentrations, the different receptor affinity, or receptor desensitization (45, 46).
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Glyphosate toxicity would not be related to a sudden uptick in deaths worldwide if that's what you're suggesting.
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Re: Mass Hysteria/Psyhosis [Re: Rahz]
#28296237 - 04/26/23 01:50 PM (8 months, 29 days ago) |
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the upticks in death was engineered to appear statistically sudden, leading to hysteria. ironically the hysteria leads to an uptick in deaths!
remember in the early days of covid when the msm had death tickers and infection numbers scrolling across the bottom of the screen? breaking news!
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sudly
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Again, it looks like there is evidence suggesting Glyphosate has impacts on endocrine systems but I'm not sure it's clear to what extent, with what concentrations and how other factors interplay, but it seems a serious issue worth considering.
Claiming causality for gender dysphoria is a step too far though.
And it's important not to characterise it as a defect.
And the cause of Covid is Covid strains.
It was a new deadly pandemic and as it spread the death toll rose, especially in places that didn't take appropriate precautions. There is no brain in a holster for your Covid talk.
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Rahz
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thealienthatategod said: the upticks in death was engineered to appear statistically sudden, leading to hysteria. ironically the hysteria leads to an uptick in deaths!
remember in the early days of covid when the msm had death tickers and infection numbers scrolling across the bottom of the screen? breaking news!
Early reports were heavily skewed toward testing of hospital admissions and the press certainly ran with it, but there's overwhelming evidence excessive numbers of people were dying from a respiratory infection. There's no vector or mechanism for glyphosate to cause that.
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sudly
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RJ Tubs 202 said:
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It is about creating a safe and affirming environment for young people to express their gender identity without fear of discrimination or violence.
I notice people who promote "safe spaces" for some groups are only concerned about certain groups and never all groups that are under attack. People promoting "safe spaces" consistently engage in discrimination & bias. Equity and inclusion go out the window.
They never want to protect the people they hate.
Promoting equity and inclusion for marginalised individuals does not mean that others are being excluded or discriminated against.
Do illuminate on this unfounded claim of yours.
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Re: Mass Hysteria/Psyhosis [Re: sudly]
#28296588 - 04/26/23 06:31 PM (8 months, 28 days ago) |
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I miss the 90's, none of this was even relevant then. I miss not giving a fuck what adults do in the bedroom. I miss everyone not being so public about thier personal shit. I miss not caring about politics. I miss the good ol days essentially. Everyone and everything sucks these days. Technology has gotten to the point where its like having a toddler with a machine gun. We suck as a species at learning from history. God help us all.
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sudly
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So you started giving a fuck about what adults do in the bedroom..
Wasn't much social media back then, but nowadays you don't have to watch it.
Not caring about politics sounds like a you thing, it impacted people then and still does now.
Technology is pretty easy to maneuver through, some demographics are more likely than others to be scammed though.
Interested what examples you're thinking of when referring to mistakes of not learning from history. There are many, but in this regard I'm curious if you mean in general or a specific one.
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