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DiscoShroom
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Waterlogged subseccos
#28268968 - 04/08/23 05:46 PM (9 months, 15 days ago) |
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Kia ora,
Its my second season hunting in Wellington NZ, and it was the first day of harvesting from the Subsecco spot I found last year! This spot is quite far from my house and is in quite a public, so I don't go there often, but it's a nice day so I thought it would be nice to have that long walk!
I got to the spot and found two really big caps ~10g each, along with a number of small pins. I left the pins and took the big caps, but they're a bit old looking, pale and maybe waterlogged?
I was just wondering if anyone could tell me whether these are okay to take still? I would be planning to make a tea with them.
Thank you!
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Pluviophile
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Psilocybe weraroa var. subsecotioides Looks right to me.
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LewDoja
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Pluviophile said: Psilocybe weraroa var. subsecotioides Looks right to me.
I don't think op is asking for an ID.... as rather to the viability of the specimens.
I have no experience with these. But rather a couple questions.
Is the amount harvested enough to make it worth it? or would it be better to dry 'em out and wait for the rest?
Are you planning to return for the rest? If so when? Would the remaing fruits be enough to make it "worth it" , by them selves? or would these make or break the whole experience?
Would you eat these (in this condition) if they were just a normal part of your of your diet.... regarding to food safety?
If you're questiong whether or not to ingest something then you're probably better off not putting it in your body. Only you can really make that decision, because for 1) it's your body, 2) we can't inspect the specimen, 3) no body wants to be the one that said " yeah bro take that sh*t to the dome, you're good!" And be mistaken.
Will it kill you? ... highly unlikely ( with given information)
Will you be in the best mindset during the experience- with that little inkling in the back of your mind?
Just some food for thought, but if it's just waterlogged and not too degraded or bacterial (still smells "good"(normal)) it's is probably OK to take.
Might have noticeable loss of potency tho. If you're still convinced on not wasting such a special (to you) find then maybe be better to dry it out and wait for the rest.
Good luck Happy tripping
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Re: Waterlogged subseccos [Re: LewDoja]
#28269419 - 04/08/23 11:20 PM (9 months, 15 days ago) |
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I wouldn't if I was you. Nothing worse than starting to trip and not feeling right and wondering if you shouldn't have eaten it. Its ruined entire trips for me.
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DiscoShroom said: I was just wondering if anyone could tell me whether these are okay to take still? I would be planning to make a tea with them.
Thank you!

They look a bit too far gone, to be honest. Check texture and smell. If they're overtly slimy and/or smell sour or rotting in any way, there are possibly bacteria present that might upset your stomach.
Mind you, I'm a bit picky.
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Re: Waterlogged subseccos [Re: Anglerfish] 1
#28269503 - 04/09/23 03:34 AM (9 months, 15 days ago) |
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Don't eat them and don't make tea. These are rotten and will make you ill.
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Hairy Maclary
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Re: Waterlogged subseccos [Re: Yahra]
#28269856 - 04/09/23 11:44 AM (9 months, 14 days ago) |
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Hey now, ignorant non native folk should stop leading this poster astray...
I see absolutely no decay or rot on those subsecotioides specimens.
They are absolutely in fine condition and would be good to eat raw, make a tea from or dehydrate for future use.
Again, they are absolutely in fine condition and none of the posters who suggested otherwise have ever seen a subsecotioides in their life besides in photos.
Can you actually see any signs of rot or decay on those?
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Who are you and who sent you?
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Re: Waterlogged subseccos [Re: Yahra]
#28269859 - 04/09/23 11:48 AM (9 months, 14 days ago) |
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Someone who has actually harvested this species in real life and the universe.
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Yahra
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I admit that i've never seen Psilocybe weraroa in real life but these really don't look good, to put it mildly.

Better safe than sorry.
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Re: Waterlogged subseccos [Re: Yahra]
#28269883 - 04/09/23 12:11 PM (9 months, 14 days ago) |
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All your seeing is mature specimens with sporulated gills.
There is NO sign of rot or decay on any of them.
I would consume them personally. But you can believe whatever you want to. Ignorance is bliss.
And peoples ignorant assumptions based of no concrete evidence is also bliss...
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Re: Waterlogged subseccos [Re: Yahra]
#28269885 - 04/09/23 12:12 PM (9 months, 14 days ago) |
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Yahra said: I admit that i've never seen Psilocybe weraroa in real life
These are subsecotioides not weraroa...
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Anglerfish
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Hairy Maclary said: Someone who has actually harvested this species in real life and the universe.
Well, this species has the same physical properties as other Psilocybe species, and is subject to the same decay process and bacteria. So I don't think it's off limits to give advice on consumption even for an assumed ignorant norseman like me.
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Yahra
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You seem to like the word ignorant and throw it at people you don't know.

Not the best attitude, imho.

Whatever, have a nice day.
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Re: Waterlogged subseccos [Re: Anglerfish]
#28269898 - 04/09/23 12:22 PM (9 months, 14 days ago) |
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Yo except there is no sign of decay or rot on those specimens.
All there is to see is some waterlogged albeit healthy big subsecotioides with very purple sporulated gills, they are very mature.
I see nothing going black or rotting. I see nothing looking expired or overly decayed. I see no sign of decay matter of fact.
Yes they are waterlogged. Yes they are very mature. No they are not rotting or decaying...
What you put in your mouth is on you anyway so ultimately the OP will have to decide.
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Ppl will always do what they want to. Telling them not to, won't change that.
For which it's better to ask them questions. Not for our sake, but their's.
Then they will have a better understanding of all the facts laid out in front of them, to make a more informed decision. With the peace of mind that it was the right decision either way.
What is the potency of this species? Would it be enough to trip?
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Re: Waterlogged subseccos [Re: LewDoja] 1
#28269901 - 04/09/23 12:24 PM (9 months, 14 days ago) |
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LewDoja said: What is the potency of this species? Would it be enough to trip?
Two large subsecotioides would probably be something like a light trip just above threshold...
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Hairy Maclary said:
What you put in your mouth is on you anyway so ultimately the OP will have to decide.
Absolutely. But it wouldn't hurt to steep them in a little liquor to get rid of potential bad stuff, either.
Happy easter!
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Anglerfish said:
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Hairy Maclary said:
What you put in your mouth is on you anyway so ultimately the OP will have to decide.
Absolutely. But it wouldn't hurt to steep them in a little liquor to get rid of potential bad stuff, either.
Happy easter! 
Since OP is making Tea it will have a similar effect. I’d probably go with the liquor if I was questioning whether there could be any bacterial growth personally though. At the very least I would dehydrate wild mushrooms at this level of maturity, personally, because I alsowould not hesitate to consume them, when I want to do so. I don’t think they look waterlogged, or decayed, at all. They are very mature and a bit beat up, which isn’t uncommon for mushrooms, especially if they were growing on the ground, in wood chips, in a public place, it’s possible that they have been stepped on, but with a subsecotoid mushroom when they expand it can result in quite a ragged appearance.
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Re: Waterlogged subseccos [Re: Anglerfish]
#28270146 - 04/09/23 03:42 PM (9 months, 14 days ago) |
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