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Re: The Land of After [Re: syncro] 2
#28366669 - 06/20/23 06:14 AM (7 months, 5 days ago) |
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It's interesting to me the evolution of spiritual growth as I've involved myself deeper into philosophy I can really see it becoming and I've such a different personality than I used to , or atleast feel like it
I was meditating while working and listening to all the different sounds come out of silence and fall back into - my mind was quiet, yet ego was persistent to come back every 30 seconds it felt like time seemed to disappear
It's so hard though compared to when on psychedelics
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syncro said: I thought of CC's response that this is the after/beyond as before this was and after will be.
And I would grade it in qualities. Interesting question what/where is forgetfulness. Aloofness doesn't seem to be a problem as much as whether there is anger and stuff, or betterment.
 Grading in qualities makes sense. Some emotions seem to lend themselves more to an active/passive state, as well as how easily they lead you to planning, fantasising, simulation running etc so anger and betterment seem like they'd still park you in the NOW even though you're kind of checked out at that moment.
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syncro said: Awesome description of mantra, that ripeness. It surprises in spite of me. As attractive as the visionary can be it is more so and persistently going to void. I thought it's as if the visual cortex goes dormant which is not necessarily the case just in shutting the eyes and concentrating. It frees energy. It seems I am supposed to sit in it and stay, like that waiting room, a portal, a replicator, or sufficient.
*the visual cortex I see is in the back of the brain, but this is happening primarily in the forehead and can integrate.
Interesting, what did you mean by the bold? By that means you diffuse negative energy in your life?
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connectedcosmos said:
you all
It's interesting to me the evolution of spiritual growth as I've involved myself deeper into philosophy I can really see it becoming and I've such a different personality than I used to , or atleast feel like it
I was meditating while working and listening to all the different sounds come out of silence and fall back into - my mind was quiet, yet ego was persistent to come back every 30 seconds it felt like time seemed to disappear
It's so hard though compared to when on psychedelics 
 Great to hear that man I feel there's something human/ grounding about seeing other people experience similar shit to you and describing it in a way you FEEL it. I guess thats the point of 'Sangha'. Getting out of that 'checking in' loop you elude to there where the identifying self comes back in every 30 seconds is definitely easier tripping 
Dilligent meditation does really make it more consistant to reach & sustain that level of focused prescence, any time- as does mantra IMO. Wearing in that path.
Highly recommend Daniel Golemans "Varieties of the Meditative Experience", been going back to it a lot lately, there's some amazing stuff in there from various cultures with a detailed table of Jhana from access level through to deeper absorbic states- you may be surprised how often you read a desription & you've "been there" tripping
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Re: The Land of After [Re: Lithop]
#28366871 - 06/20/23 09:25 AM (7 months, 4 days ago) |
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Lithop said:
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syncro said: I thought of CC's response that this is the after/beyond as before this was and after will be.
And I would grade it in qualities. Interesting question what/where is forgetfulness. Aloofness doesn't seem to be a problem as much as whether there is anger and stuff, or betterment.
 Grading in qualities makes sense. Some emotions seem to lend themselves more to an active/passive state, as well as how easily they lead you to planning, fantasising, simulation running etc so anger and betterment seem like they'd still park you in the NOW even though you're kind of checked out at that moment.
Yeah for me it can be not in dealing with content which in random mind can be bat shit but what is effective in a way is the idea of changing the container, the bodies, the elements. And I was meaning the peaceful as a preference although some better emphasize being with the negative which inevitably arises.
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syncro said: Awesome description of mantra, that ripeness. It surprises in spite of me. As attractive as the visionary can be it is more so and persistently going to void. I thought it's as if the visual cortex goes dormant which is not necessarily the case just in shutting the eyes and concentrating. It frees energy. It seems I am supposed to sit in it and stay, like that waiting room, a portal, a replicator, or sufficient.
*the visual cortex I see is in the back of the brain, but this is happening primarily in the forehead and can integrate.
Interesting, what did you mean by the bold? By that means you diffuse negative energy in your life?
The teacher influence saying be in that mahamudra, stay and stay.
The waiting room I said because I've seen the psychedellies here use the reference to experience, the replicator a star trek reference, sometimes the room can manifest objects - some syncronicity going on with your apportation. Actually I scanned yesterday one of your book recommendations - the one by Eddy, and saw the apportation after reading your etymology.
"By that means you diffuse negative energy in your life?"
I hope so. It happens under right conditions, but the conditions change.
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connectedcosmos said:
you all
It's interesting to me the evolution of spiritual growth as I've involved myself deeper into philosophy I can really see it becoming and I've such a different personality than I used to , or atleast feel like it
I was meditating while working and listening to all the different sounds come out of silence and fall back into - my mind was quiet, yet ego was persistent to come back every 30 seconds it felt like time seemed to disappear
It's so hard though compared to when on psychedelics 
I'm yapping all the time in practice. Minor details. The practice can make the bodily context more ideal, and that is where much peace can be robbed, and thoughts can go nonstop but nevertheless the system can be in a better way.
It's said also that during a meditative effort, the memories and everything coming up are being looked at by the doctors.
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Re: The Land of After [Re: syncro]
#28367140 - 06/20/23 12:50 PM (7 months, 4 days ago) |
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syncro said: Yeah for me it can be not in dealing with content which in random mind can be bat shit but what is effective in a way is the idea of changing the container, the bodies, the elements.
Work toward being a container that is better suited to/ less affected by containing said batshit?
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syncro said: The teacher influence saying be in that mahamudra, stay and stay.
The waiting room I said because I've seen the psychedellies here use the reference to experience, the replicator a star trek reference, sometimes the room can manifest objects - some syncronicity going on with your apportation. Actually I scanned yesterday one of your book recommendations - the one by Eddy, and saw the apportation after reading your etymology.
Bold is gold.
Psychedellies looool good shit.
Synchronicity: "The mirroring of internal experience in the external space, an acausal connection with a meaningful outcome."
Perhaps less synchronistic and more simply a connection?

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syncro said: I hope so. It happens under right conditions, but the conditions change.
 It's always possible.
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Re: The Land of After [Re: Lithop] 1
#28367633 - 06/20/23 06:23 PM (7 months, 4 days ago) |
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"Baader-Meinhof phenomenon"
Yes! that seems to happen around here.
"Work toward being a container that is better suited to/ less affected by containing said batshit?"
Yes, the principle comes from the yogic purification, and it works for me to take it further, like the mantra is my body ... I am the mantra. We are ideas, the body an idea.
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Re: The Land of After [Re: syncro]
#28369477 - 06/21/23 10:20 PM (7 months, 3 days ago) |
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From ACIM (referred in this post.)
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You have accepted this instead of the body, and have let yourself be one with something beyond it, simply by not letting your mind be limited by it.
12. This can occur regardless of the physical distance that seems to be between you and what you join; of your respective positions in space; and of your differences in size and seeming quality. ²Time is not relevant; it can occur with something past, present or anticipated. ³The “something” can be anything and anywhere; a sound, a sight, a thought, a memory, and even a general idea without specific reference. ⁴Yet in every case, you join it without reservation because you love it, and would be with it. ⁵And so you rush to meet it, letting your limits melt away, suspending all the “laws” your body obeys and gently setting them aside.
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Re: The Land of After [Re: syncro]
#28424744 - 08/07/23 06:40 PM (5 months, 18 days ago) |
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More consistency from spiritism books, and broadly it seems, on the bodily natures.
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She stood beside her son, so close in fact that I thought he must have felt the wild beating of her heart, and yet I saw that she was quite invisible to him. He could no more see the spirit Mother who stood beside him than could a mortal have seen himself. He was in his Astral body, that first garment of the Spirit which is almost mortal in its materiality, and she was a Spirit from the lower sphere, and, as such, two degrees further removed from materiality than her son. For whether a Spirit ascends or descends as he leaves the encircling belt of the Earth Plane, he leaves behind him more and more of the Earth's materiality, and becomes less and less easily visible to the eyes of mortals or of Earth-bound Spirits. To become visible, it is necessary that he should clothe himself in the degree of materiality belonging to each sphere which intervenes between him and the Earth.
This one is The Strange Story of Ahrinziman, a captivating narrative, this time about dark sorcerers on earth and following in the astral-spirit worlds. Parts of it read like fantasy though also having the message of goodness and redemption in the law where there is a bit of light to be had.
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Re: The Land of After [Re: syncro] 1
#28425378 - 08/08/23 07:49 AM (5 months, 18 days ago) |
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I found interesting a clarification in a distinction (somewhat obvious nevertheless) - after Ahrinziman had found his way out of the troubling entanglements in his spiritual pursuits, and had turned to helpfulness and correction of misdeeds, a guide is showing him temples on earth that had been corrupted by the desires of men.
It is seen that the true kings on earth were ones such as the founders of the various religions, and that degradation occurs in time through material desires of their leaders. Again it is said that the earth realm is teaming with astral spirits of varying qualities that have much to do with the degradations, and that the vampiric are seeking to inhabit and feed upon the vitality of those who are vulnerable and who share their appetites. The spirits are seeking to maintain vitality of the material envelop to remain in the astral realm, for when it degrades and dies, the spirit will fall into lower realms, or it believes so.
So it seems that everyone or many have spirits around them that match their vibrations, as well those that would uplift and those that would usurp. In speaking of spiritual work, in the temples etc., Ahrinziman is referring to mediumship. I have not much interest in it per se, but believe it may be implied more broadly that all such contact, meditation, abidance is a kind of mediumship.
In any case, those engaging in practice can become very sensitive as the material envelop is thinned in contact with the spirit which otherwise acts as an insulator to astral influences. The point was that sensitives are not kept in isolation and protected due to mortification of the flesh or such ideas, but because of the sensitivity.
It is odd because the abidance is also a strength and protection, but afterward leaves a seemingly vulnerable sensitivity where mindfulness has subsided.
In the sadhana again the purification practice involves in a sense, destroying the astral and mental bodies with the elements. It seems that no longer can the material body then be considered a protection from influence, but the spirit alone, or will.
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Re: The Land of After [Re: syncro]
#28425411 - 08/08/23 08:10 AM (5 months, 17 days ago) |
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Very interesting & cool syncro, I'll pick up that book for 3 bucks!
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Re: The Land of After [Re: Lithop]
#28425430 - 08/08/23 08:21 AM (5 months, 17 days ago) |
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Not to discourage supporting the source, but again I'm getting them as free ebooks on ghostcircle. https://www.ghostcircle.com/free-ebooks/
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Re: The Land of After [Re: syncro]
#28425457 - 08/08/23 08:49 AM (5 months, 17 days ago) |
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Not to discourage supporting the source, but again I'm getting them as free ebooks on ghostcircle. https://www.ghostcircle.com/free-ebooks/
Thanks for the link- sick resource! Yeah I'll check the PDF out and still spare the couple coins for a physical copy if I'm digging it
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Re: The Land of After [Re: Lithop]
#28425466 - 08/08/23 09:06 AM (5 months, 17 days ago) |
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Some of them are not as readable or captivating, or are too evangelical. Just have to try the luck.
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Re: The Land of After [Re: syncro] 1
#28427271 - 08/09/23 02:58 PM (5 months, 16 days ago) |
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I've nosed into another one in the same collection that starts off with appeal, My Travels in the Spirit World, by Caroline D Larsen. Interestingly, I think all of these so far are written in the early half of the last century, this one from 1927.
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If all of the information concerning life hereafter which I gathered on these occasions could become generally accepted, the present dread of so called "death" would entirely disappear. Our grief and despair at the loss of our loved ones would change into a calm resignation in the face of the conviction that as the "dead" are more alive than ever, the separation is but momentary, the reunion is close at hand.
The speaker shares an experience of an unexpected and delightful separation from her body and enjoyment of her astral self, only to almost immediately have an authority return her to her physical body. She continues to have times of separation and is gradually exploring more fully the world and space.
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