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Re: The Land of After Death [Re: syncro]
    #28342774 - 06/01/23 06:51 AM (7 months, 24 days ago)

In the book it is much again about magnetic fluids per se, around foods, bodies, healing. These again I assume equate to prana. The prana must span the qualities, as it is the light of mind, but manifests or carries the qualities of thought form from the most heavy upward.

Bodies in the lower astral are described as being clothed in heavy magnetic fluid which manifests as binding similar to the physical body, based in strong thought patterns, attachments, beliefs.

A little over half way through the Astral City book, I'm a little disappointed as the paragraph quoted above is the only bit so far speaking that way on energetics, it mostly around administration and service though the p is nice summary anyway, and there is interesting content nevertheless.


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Re: The Land of After Death [Re: syncro]
    #28344092 - 06/02/23 07:21 AM (7 months, 23 days ago)

"We shall always feed on what we cultivate." "It’s a law of life which works for good or evil."

"You’re right! I exclaimed. I can see that life in earthly homes is equally ruled by these principles. Whenever there is mutual understanding, life becomes a fore state of heavenly bliss, but if misunderstandings and unkindness prevail, home becomes a real hell on Earth."


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Re: The Land of After Death [Re: syncro]
    #28346678 - 06/04/23 05:58 AM (7 months, 21 days ago)

In the final pages of Astral City, Andre was able to visit his home on earth, remaining only in the astral. One of the relatives was very sick. He saw with their loss, so would be the welfare of the household with children. He calls for a fellow worker from the astral to help.

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We don’t have time to waste. She said. She immediately began applying strengthening passes to the patient, raising a barrier between him and the dark entities, who disappeared as if by magic. Then she turned to me and said firmly:

We must resort to Nature.

I followed her promptly. Sensing my curiosity, she explained:

Man is not the only one to receive and emit fluids. All Nature does the same. In our patient’s case, we need the trees. They will be a great help to us.

Wondering at this new lesson, I followed her in silence. After arriving at a place filled with enormous trees, Narcisa called out to someone with words I couldn’t understand. In a few moments eight spirit entities responded. To my great surprise, I saw Narcisa ask them whether there were mango and eucalyptus trees in the neighborhood. Having received the required information from her friends, who were unknown to me, Narcisa turned to me and explained:

The brothers who have just come to our aid are ordinary workers in the vegetable kingdom.

Said Narcisa. Seeing my wonder, she continued:

You see, there is nothing useless in Our Father’s House. Wherever there are those needing instruction, there will also be those willing to teach. Whenever a difficulty arises, Providence comes in. The only unfortunate being in the Divine Creation is the improvident spirit who condemns himself to the abysses of evil.

With the emanations of the eucalyptus and mango trees, Narcisa quickly manipulated a certain substance, which we applied to the patient through his ordinary breathing and by absorption through his skin. Ernest improved visibly. Early the next morning the doctor observed, extremely surprised: What an extraordinary reaction! A real miracle of Nature!




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Re: The Land of After Death [Re: syncro]
    #28346701 - 06/04/23 06:31 AM (7 months, 21 days ago)

Searching yesterday for material on aspects of spiritual forgetfulness in maya, I happened upon a book, Thought Power, by Swami Sivananda. A list of downloadable books by The Divine Life Society are here.

An excerpt:

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Thought-dynamics in Universal Environs
Thought actually leaves the brain and hovers about. When a thought, whether good or
evil, leaves the mind of a person it gives rise to vibrations in the Manas or mental atmosphere,
which travel far and wide in all directions.

It enters the brains of others also. A sage living in a Himalayan cave transmits a powerful
thought to a corner of America. He who tries to purify himself in a cave, really purifies the world,
helps the world at large. Nobody can prevent his pure thoughts coming out and passing on to
those others that really want them.

Just as the sun goes on continuously converting into vapour every drop of water that is on
the surface of the earth and just as all the vapour thus rising up gathers together in the form of
clouds, all the thoughts that you project from your own lonely corner will mount up and be
wafted across space, join similar thoughts projected by those who are like you and, in the end, all
these holy thoughts will come down with tremendous force to subjugate undesirable forces.




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Re: The Land of After Death [Re: syncro]
    #28347440 - 06/04/23 07:00 PM (7 months, 20 days ago)

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When the mind does not function owing to the absence of Vasanas (mental impressions
and subtle desires), then arises the state of Manonasa or annihilation of the mind.




'With the destruction of mind, Atman begins to dawn.'
This is from an article by the same author.
Manonasa (Annihilation of the Mind)


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Re: The Land of After [Re: syncro]
    #28348000 - 06/05/23 09:17 AM (7 months, 19 days ago)

So a way to not forgetting about spirit nature is to forget about maya, the world of the external senses and discursive mind, (in manonasa, or manolaya.)


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    #28348003 - 06/05/23 09:18 AM (7 months, 19 days ago)

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The essential nature of all objects is thoughts. Materiality is a wrong idea.

As snow melts in water through heat, so mind becomes subtle through the practice of
right vision and positive thoughts.

The real action is thought only. It is really mental and not physical. The physical action is
only an external expression of the real action which is vibration of volition in the mind. Your
physical activities are only the various sides of mental activities.

As the beauty of a tree increases immensely in the spring season, so also your strength,
your intellect and the lustre will increase in proportion to your positive thoughts. Thoughts of the
wise men are entirely different from the thoughts of ordinary people. You are liberated in
proportion to your thoughts of indifference to the world.

When thoughts of purity emanate around you, Eternal Law begins to support you.




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Re: The Land of After Death [Re: syncro] * 1
    #28348218 - 06/05/23 12:50 PM (7 months, 19 days ago)

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syncro said:


'With the destruction of mind, Atman begins to dawn.'
This is from an article by the same author.
Manonasa (Annihilation of the Mind)




I like that , sneaky self ... in our every experience yet non perceivable! :megacrankey::wtfsonic::awehigh:


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Re: The Land of After Death [Re: connectedcosmos]
    #28348286 - 06/05/23 01:42 PM (7 months, 19 days ago)

:smile: And how will it manifest as dawning?


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Re: The Land of After Death [Re: syncro]
    #28348300 - 06/05/23 01:49 PM (7 months, 19 days ago)

That reminded me of in the book, "When the seen and the sight merge into one another in the seer, then is the experience of Ananda (bliss). This is Turiya state."


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Re: The Land of After Death [Re: syncro]
    #28348334 - 06/05/23 02:21 PM (7 months, 19 days ago)

Another term which I hadn't seen (or remembered.) "Repeat mentally, “Om I am Sakshi..." which is the witness.


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    #28348335 - 06/05/23 02:22 PM (7 months, 19 days ago)

For me personally only manifest when heavily contemplated on , intuitively , yet always slipping like trying to put a nail in the sky :awesomenod:  it is very blissful and I can say I could die happy with that feeling as weird as that is to say

" a man who understands the Dao in the morning can die at peace in the evening " *may not be exact quote:lol:*

The seer and the seen :awesomenod: there are moments throughout the day I can almost feel like I'm just watching a movie like my life is just passing through my eyes as I sit as the silent observer

Even while I'm working I'll contemplate free will am I doing this or is this doing me :lol:


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    #28348371 - 06/05/23 02:57 PM (7 months, 19 days ago)

I changed the title of the thread to The Land of After, not wanting to be considering death per se every time seeing the thread. It's a pia enough as it is, and as we are taught, illusory. :smile:


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    #28348676 - 06/05/23 06:42 PM (7 months, 19 days ago)

Interesting take by the Swami on being in the cave.

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Indians have now imbibed the missionary spirit of the West and cry out that Sannyasins
should come out and take part in social and political activities. It is a sad mistake.

It is not necessary that a Sannyasin, a saint should appear on the platform to help the
world, to preach and elevate the minds of people.

Some saints preach by example. Their very lives are an embodiment of teaching. Their
very sight elevates the minds of thousands.

A saint is a living assurance for others for God-realization. Many draw inspiration from
the sight of holy saints.

No one can check the thought-vibrations from the saints. Their pure, strong thoughtvibrations
travel a very long distance, purify the world and enter the minds of many thousands of
persons. There is no doubt in this.




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    #28348682 - 06/05/23 06:45 PM (7 months, 19 days ago)

The next book I'm checking out by the same is What Becomes of the Soul After Death.

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Paraloka-Vidya or the science about the departed souls and their planes of living is a subject
of absorbing interest. It is a Mysterious Science which contains many secrets or hidden wonders. It
has intimate connection with Panchagni-Vidya or the science of transmigration propounded in the
Chhandogya Upanishad. The doctrine of reincarnation or metempsychosis, transmigration of the
soul and spiritualism come under the Paraloka-Vidya. Everybody is curious and anxious to know
this science.




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    #28353019 - 06/09/23 08:56 AM (7 months, 15 days ago)

About half way through, recommended though the first part is a bit tedious in the ritual aspects of helping the departed. I had some familiarity with these which involve offering of materials to form a body to leave a purgatorial or chaotic initial phase, perhaps in recollecting the astral body for those who need it, iirc.

Also in that the swami like others say this HAS to be done, and probably none of us do it like that for the departed. At the risk of neglect, in seeking simplicity, one may say such as a divine name is sufficient.

As those at even the highest levels of service oathe to serve all who seek, that needed help would be provided speaks for itself in the worthiness of the name.

edit: The book overall seemed a bit too fundamentalist for me, Hindu fire and brimstone, though some appreciable content, lots of testimony on reincarnation, quotes by philosophers worldwide, and various religious views.


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    #28365142 - 06/19/23 06:47 AM (7 months, 6 days ago)

I hadn't seen this translation from the Vasistha.

Saraswati: "“Those practising the Dharana Yoga may go wherever they like, after leaving their bodies, and so the reasonable Yogi is at liberty to roam everywhere. (It consists in mental meditation and bodily patience and endurance.)"

Anyone who meditates at all with some regularity is doing dharana (concentration) I would think. 
:awedance:

Also from spinvis' quotes quote of the Gita, since Gita showed first for me today in Lithop's pictures.

"Even those who do not know me,
if their actions are straightforward,
just, and loving, venerate me
with the truest kind of worship."

That sounded very simple at first, but then with 'straightforward, just, and loving', we may be just regular people who seemingly seek no harm, but then are we just and loving to ourselves, (in habits and thoughts)?

"All your thoughts, all your actions,
all your fears and disappointments,
offer them to me, clear-hearted;
know them all as passing visions."


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Re: The Land of After [Re: syncro]
    #28365268 - 06/19/23 09:41 AM (7 months, 5 days ago)

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syncro said:
I changed the title of the thread to The Land of After, not wanting to be considering death per se every time seeing the thread. It's a pia enough as it is, and as we are taught, illusory. :smile:




With that revision in mind, where does the line get drawn between the now/here and the after/beyond? States of absorbtion, deep fantasy, any time we aren't aware of watching our own projected consciousness?

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connectedcosmos said:
Even while I'm working I'll contemplate free will am I doing this or is this doing me :lol:



:awesomenod:
About 3 weeks ago, I'd had a hearty fresh Nat tea and sat with my eyemask on to meditate.
On some repeat of Avalokiteshvra mantra (internally) I am no longer aware of holding beads or sitting up, or having a body at all- I'm in a void with what I described in my journal later as "rainbow lines of creation" kind of like a freestyle etch-a-sketch where the lines were all intersecting and filling the area of space I turned to dissipating at the end points after a certain amount of crossings, dropping dusty looking pixels off them as they faded out.

When I came around from that space, I was still chanting the mantra (aloud now) and only stopped when I was surprised to hear/feel my own voice.

Fasforward to last week, I picked up 'Journey of Awakening, a Meditators Guidebook' by Ram Dass and read this:

"If practised continually, a mantra becomes somewhat autonomous, like a top spinning inside which every now and then just needs a flick to keep it going.
Eventually it will go on with no need of encouragement, as in the case of Saint Kabir who said,

'Ram practises my japa [repetition of Gods name] while I sit relaxed.'
It's a blissful moment when you notice that happening: Instead of doing mantra, the mantra is doing you."

:awecid:


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syncro said:
"Even those who do not know me,
if their actions are straightforward,
just, and loving, venerate me
with the truest kind of worship."

That sounded very simple at first, but then with 'straightforward, just, and loving', we may be just regular people who seemingly seek no harm, but then are we just and loving to ourselves, (in habits and thoughts)?

"All your thoughts, all your actions,
all your fears and disappointments,
offer them to me, clear-hearted;
know them all as passing visions."




Seems that bottom purport is the answer to your question- as to how to do the top one more readily/honestly by being able to love ourselves in habit and thought.

What do you think? :pipesmoke:


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    #28365295 - 06/19/23 10:02 AM (7 months, 5 days ago)

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Lithop said:
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syncro said:
I changed the title of the thread to The Land of After, not wanting to be considering death per se every time seeing the thread. It's a pia enough as it is, and as we are taught, illusory. :smile:




With that revision in mind, where does the line get drawn between the now/here and the after/beyond? States of absorbtion, deep fantasy, any time we aren't aware of watching our own projected consciousness?




I thought of CC's response that this is the after/beyond as before this was and after will be.

And I would grade it in qualities. Interesting question what/where is forgetfulness. Aloofness doesn't seem to be a problem as much as whether there is anger and stuff, or betterment.


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    #28365473 - 06/19/23 12:27 PM (7 months, 5 days ago)

Awesome description of mantra, that ripeness. It surprises in spite of me. As attractive as the visionary can be it is more so and persistently going to void. I thought it's as if the visual cortex goes dormant which is not necessarily the case just in shutting the eyes and concentrating. It frees energy. It seems I am supposed to sit in it and stay, like that waiting room, a portal, a replicator, or sufficient.

*the visual cortex I see is in the back of the brain, but this is happening primarily in the forehead and can integrate.


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