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    #28265239 - 04/06/23 01:08 PM (9 months, 18 days ago)

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Re: Women talk to me about their pain then fuck other guys [Re: thelanzii] * 4
    #28265279 - 04/06/23 01:29 PM (9 months, 18 days ago)

Are you making it clear up front that by participating in this conversation, you expect the women to then have sex with you afterwards?

Or are you just salty that they are not reading your mind, in which you seem to expect a certain reciprocation of a sexual nature?

Further, do you think these women would feel comfortable participating in such conversation were you to actually tell them that you expect payment in the form of pussy?

I'll be honest man, this is like textbook incel 101 shit. Don't try to sneak your way into a woman's pants.


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Re: Women talk to me about their pain then fuck other guys [Re: Kryptos] * 1
    #28265324 - 04/06/23 01:42 PM (9 months, 18 days ago)

Yeah this is misaligned wanting. Imagine if psychotherapists slept with their patients... it's illegal for a reason. What you're experiencing is a privilege and goes beyond sexuality-- it's basic human connection which is deeply intimate. Wanting to bang the person who you're talking with means you should either ask them out or accept that you are not dating them and that they are instead a human looking to share their experience in safety and confidence.


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Re: Women talk to me about their pain then fuck other guys [Re: Kryptos]
    #28265372 - 04/06/23 02:25 PM (9 months, 18 days ago)

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Re: Women talk to me about their pain then fuck other guys [Re: Kryptos]
    #28265375 - 04/06/23 02:27 PM (9 months, 18 days ago)

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Re: Women talk to me about their pain then fuck other guys [Re: thelanzii] * 1
    #28265400 - 04/06/23 02:41 PM (9 months, 18 days ago)

Ive been in a similar situation. I think some women like to seperate their "therapist friend" from their "lust friends". Its sorta like being "friend-zoned" but a bit different since she still flirts and sends u nude photos. But a similar concept.


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Re: Women talk to me about their pain then fuck other guys [Re: LogicaL Chaos] * 1
    #28265586 - 04/06/23 04:06 PM (9 months, 18 days ago)

If she sends you nudes why not just invite her over to your house, ask her if she would like to escalate things to friends who talk about everything naked?


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Re: Women talk to me about their pain then fuck other guys [Re: Anonymous #1] * 2
    #28265591 - 04/06/23 04:08 PM (9 months, 18 days ago)

I think some women want to have no strings attached sex because strings are painful; you probably fit more as a boyfriend in her world than as a fun guy. If you want to have fun you have to be fun. You could also show her that you can talk about serious things AND have fun!


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Re: Women talk to me about their pain then fuck other guys [Re: thelanzii] * 4
    #28265679 - 04/06/23 04:47 PM (9 months, 18 days ago)

I thought about this. I have done this to men. The conversations need to be more then just that.
If I only discussed my emotional pain with someone, I lose attraction for them if that is all it is. I see them as a person safe to discuss my emotional pain with.
It needs to be more.


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Re: Women talk to me about their pain then fuck other guys [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #28265684 - 04/06/23 04:50 PM (9 months, 18 days ago)

She might just not be into you.

I'm sure you've met women whose company you enjoyed, but whom you did not find sexually attractive?

Suck bro, I know. Live and learn. Go meet more women.


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Re: Women talk to me about their pain then fuck other guys [Re: Kryptos] * 1
    #28265750 - 04/06/23 05:30 PM (9 months, 18 days ago)

I think we need to see the nudes to really figure out how to help.:snoopyes:


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Re: Women talk to me about their pain then fuck other guys [Re: CapSlinger] * 1
    #28266755 - 04/07/23 11:10 AM (9 months, 17 days ago)

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Re: Women talk to me about their pain then fuck other guys [Re: thelanzii] * 1
    #28266819 - 04/07/23 11:54 AM (9 months, 17 days ago)

I have found that in this fucked societal/sexual existence, that women, nowadays, tend to view sex as a more casual experience in many cases. And many will purposely avoid meaningful sex and opt for casual, for, what I'm sure, Is a variety of reasons.

They also crave emotional connection IF they are comfortable and can be allowed to be vulnerable enough.

Thus chick felt comfy and able to be vulnerable with you, and shared, her most hurtful moments, with that trust in mind.

This shows you are a decent human and worthy of love.

But on the side of the woman there may be many reasons why, for the simplicity of her orgasm, with this guy is a more facilitative experience. Separating the emotion from the act of sex seems to be a product of the bastardzation of commodifying sex to the degree we have.

Many women bc of past or future or whatever may find it difficult to bring the two together without a good deal of fear and confusion.

I think this is likely your experience


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Re: Women talk to me about their pain then fuck other guys [Re: loladoreen] * 2
    #28272355 - 04/11/23 07:14 AM (9 months, 13 days ago)

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If I only discussed my emotional pain with someone, I lose attraction for them if that is all it is. I see them as a person safe to discuss my emotional pain with.  It needs to be more.




It's difficult (maybe impossible?) to engage in romance and seduction in such a scenario.  The art of charming a woman often involves the creative use of words that intoxicates her mind, stimulates fantasies, and titillates her senses.  Heavy duty emotional sharing can hinder these things.  Talking about emotional pain can be very meaningful and helpful, but I suspect it's mostly incompatible with cultivating the romantic interest of courtship.


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Re: Women talk to me about their pain then fuck other guys [Re: RJ Tubs 202] * 1
    #28273164 - 04/11/23 04:37 PM (9 months, 13 days ago)

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If I only discussed my emotional pain with someone, I lose attraction for them if that is all it is. I see them as a person safe to discuss my emotional pain with.  It needs to be more.




It's difficult (maybe impossible?) to engage in romance and seduction in such a scenario.  The art of charming a woman often involves the creative use of words that intoxicates her mind, stimulates fantasies, and titillates her senses.  Heavy duty emotional sharing can hinder these things.  Talking about emotional pain can be very meaningful and helpful, but I suspect it's mostly incompatible with cultivating the romantic interest of courtship.





Agreed, deep emotional sharing comes into the relationship(or should) at a much later time. Not when trying to date/fall in love/screw. It is best and important and reasonable to share, when the relationship has grown to provide security ND understanding, as the norm.
Both sides are really too tender to do this early on.
*usually we present our best selves for the other at the time of courtship.. relationships well developed are forlorn of that luxury


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Re: Women talk to me about their pain then fuck other guys [Re: thelanzii] * 2
    #28273855 - 04/12/23 03:47 AM (9 months, 12 days ago)

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As the title reads multiple times in my life I have had conversations with women about their past pain, hardships and trauma.  We connect on a level because I can relate with my own past of losing a sibling.  The frustrating part of this is we have these real meaningful conversations and then the shallow dude is the one who is the one who has sex with her. 





Not gonna read the rest of the thread cause I can roughly expect what it'll be like, so let me give you just this piece of advice: You don't fuck girls who come to you to work through issues, you fuck the girls you ask them to bring to you. Deep emotional labor NEVER gets followed by sex barring differentials in station (i.e you being older or a therapist/mentor/teacher) as it relegates you to the position of brother and most people tend to be averse to incest.

Connect with her. Help her out. Get over her and get with one of her friends. She might not feel thankful enough to have sex with you (and, quite frankly, "thank you" sex is really just that and never a foundation for a relationship) but she will almost definitively feel thankful enough to help you get with someone she knows. The dating market is like the job market -- The best offers are obtained through referral. So don't fret. You've already created a valuable opportunity for yourself, and since you're into her and people tend to congregate around people that are like them it's very likely you'll find no issue with being into whoever she ends up recommending.

PS: Considering the other guy "shallow" is rather unproductive and judgemental an attitude to have. It might be true -- I know him about as much as you do, really -- but just in terms of what type of mentality pushes you forward and into more powerful modes of believing and doing it's a genuinely self-destructive way of seeing the world.

What it comes down to is how much you'll be capable of affecting reality. Believing you're being held back on all sides by the dull and dimwitted will end up making it so (and piss everyone off in the process because humans have evolved a VERY keen sense for contempt).





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Re: Women talk to me about their pain then fuck other guys [Re: towndaze] * 1
    #28275194 - 04/12/23 11:05 PM (9 months, 11 days ago)

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Re: Women talk to me about their pain then fuck other guys [Re: thelanzii] * 2
    #28275308 - 04/13/23 02:40 AM (9 months, 11 days ago)

Here you go bro... This is what is happening...



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Re: Women talk to me about their pain then fuck other guys [Re: thelanzii]
    #28282984 - 04/18/23 12:33 AM (9 months, 6 days ago)

I used to be frigid, but then I took a hoe to the heart.


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Re: Women talk to me about their pain then fuck other guys [Re: sudly]
    #28287447 - 04/20/23 10:05 PM (9 months, 3 days ago)

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Re: Women talk to me about their pain then fuck other guys [Re: thelanzii]
    #28287464 - 04/20/23 10:25 PM (9 months, 3 days ago)

I'm not jealous but I do get annoyed when others try to make me jealous.

I think figuring out what you do and don't want is important to even start dating.

I said I only wanted casual things and was not in a place to be romantic. All I had to offer was friendship and cuddles if the chemistry is there.

It worked really well to help me find a great friend. Just today I was talking to a new lass and told her what I wanted, asking what she wanted, she said a romantic extroverted secondary poly partner.

I said I wasn't the right guy for her because of what I wanted and although we may catch up for lunch as friends, we've made clear our intentions and don't have to invest beyond it which is good to know getting into these things.

Have you talked about hard and soft limits before? Recognised the importance of enthusiastic consent etc?

Plus I've told people I have no interest in the sex lives of other people.

If you're all single, frankly putting jealousy aside is the only way you'll make it. Imo atleast. It took me 8 years to put aside my jealousy to the point of even appreciating my first ex a bit more, but it took a lot experiences, self reflection and personal development to come across.

I think if you find out what you want you'll have an easier time meeting people who want the same thing, maybe she just doesn't want what you want and there's a more suited person out there.


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Re: Women talk to me about their pain then fuck other guys [Re: sudly]
    #28287511 - 04/20/23 11:45 PM (9 months, 3 days ago)

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Re: Women talk to me about their pain then fuck other guys [Re: thelanzii]
    #28287811 - 04/21/23 08:03 AM (9 months, 3 days ago)

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we were supposed to hang out yesterday, but she bailed and promised tonight then did not reply

I messaged her why even reschedule if you bail again tonight?




Whether she bailed because she don't like you, or she had a legit reason to bail, from now on she will bail because she don't like you.

I have done something similar in the past, where you can logic out that you're being bailed on, or otherwise find out. With male friends, I have on occasion had conversations in which I was like "yo man, that was shitty when you bailed and lied about it" and men will generally be like yeah, my bad.

Women are not like that. When you call them on something like that, they get defensive and offended. Let them save face.


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Re: Women talk to me about their pain then fuck other guys [Re: thelanzii] * 1
    #28288043 - 04/21/23 11:18 AM (9 months, 3 days ago)

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Someone said become a level of status/personal growth that countless women will chase you.




Although wealth, status and looks can play a role in attracting women, this is largely a myth.  Many average looking guys (and below average) get many gals because they lack fear and know how to seduce a woman.  Many attractive wealthy men are terrified of women, and this fear kills their chances. Women smell a man's fear from a million miles away.     

I've recently learned the more a man seeks a woman, or women, the more desperate and needy men appear, and this is a huge turn off to women.  One of the reasons aloof men who are jerks often get many gals is they do not emanate needing a woman.  This makes these men intriguing and attractive.

The art of seduction is a bit of a game.  It's not manipulation - it's catering to what women are attracted to.  It's important to not be too available and maintain autonomy and never show all your cards.  Maintain some mystery and occasionally be unpredictable.

It's critical to have the skills of having interesting topics to discuss, and to be able to engage in humor.  Don't be Mr Nice Guy.  Sometimes reveal a bit of your dark side.  Find out what she fears, makes her angry, and what brings her joy. 

And learn how to use eye contact to stimulate intimacy.


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Re: Women talk to me about their pain then fuck other guys [Re: thelanzii]
    #28288062 - 04/21/23 11:33 AM (9 months, 3 days ago)

I have never chased a man for his status or wealth.
Love.. yes


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Re: Women talk to me about their pain then fuck other guys [Re: loladoreen]
    #28288075 - 04/21/23 11:43 AM (9 months, 3 days ago)

Have you noticed a pattern in the characteristics of the men you're attracted to?


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Re: Women talk to me about their pain then fuck other guys [Re: RJ Tubs 202]
    #28288093 - 04/21/23 11:50 AM (9 months, 3 days ago)

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Have you noticed a pattern in the characteristics of the men you're attracted to?




Absolutely not. It is all over the place.


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Re: Women talk to me about their pain then fuck other guys [Re: thelanzii] * 1
    #28288105 - 04/21/23 11:55 AM (9 months, 3 days ago)

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Very solid reply and thought provoking. 




Thanks, I try where I can.

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I have fell into talking with her about real deeper issues but we have also goofed around and flirted.  It's frustrating because she is very pleasant to talk to but since I opened up the more emotional talk it set a precedent.  I am a bit older than her and have already worked through a lot of the similar issues she has.




I getcha but this just ain't the way (unless you're someone's first that's very different).

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  The other guy is an acquaintance of mine and she jumps around from liking and disdain for him often. 



Cause he's interesting. You're comfy & relatable. Father/brother figure as opposed to lover.




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At this point my goal is to work on myself and meet other women.



Amen.
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Someone said become a level of status/personal growth that countless women will chase you.  Sounds corny but it's the only move that makes sense rn.


 
Work on being interesting/funny/entertaining.
Dumbest/most easily explained/fastest way: Un-freaking-ironically?
Learn how to dance. No. Really. Just learn how to dance off YouTube. Once you got that down, learn how to spin Poi and do "Gloving".

A lot of us psychedelics people are often way too much in our own heads and out of touch with our own physicality. I don't know your ethnicity but I'm guessing Caucasian, which makes this an even more pressing issue.


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Re: Women talk to me about their pain then fuck other guys [Re: towndaze]
    #28288151 - 04/21/23 12:23 PM (9 months, 3 days ago)

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Work on being interesting/funny/entertaining.




:thumbup:

This is a very important point.  Being boring is never attractive.  BTW, being perfect (or trying to appear perfect) is boring.

Women might say they want Mr. Dependable (and they, in part, may) but at their core they want to have sex with someone they find interesting and exciting.  Part of this is not being 100% predictable.  Ya got to mix it up!  And she doesn't want to "be your everything".  You must never depend on a woman to fulfill your emotional needs.


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Re: Women talk to me about their pain then fuck other guys [Re: RJ Tubs 202]
    #28288238 - 04/21/23 01:27 PM (9 months, 3 days ago)

Personally I don't want to be responsible for the emotional security of another person, and neither do the people I meet and get along with well.

Finding those who want what you want is critical imo.


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Re: Women talk to me about their pain then fuck other guys [Re: thelanzii]
    #28288254 - 04/21/23 01:37 PM (9 months, 3 days ago)

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thelanzii said:I have flirted plenty with her, shes sent me nudes.  but I am not the one fucking her

and was wondering if it is hindered by having these conversations.  no I don't think I deserve sex by talking about pain





If she's sent you nudes then you might have a chance, depending on how long ago she sent the nudes.
Did you even respond to her sending you nudes?  Did you say something like "damnnn gurl, you lookin' aight, I wanna spank that ass and see you crawl on the floor."  ?    Did you let her know you find her sexually attractive?

Since she's sent nudes, I don't think you're hindered by the convos about past pain.


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Re: Women talk to me about their pain then fuck other guys [Re: thelanzii]
    #28288266 - 04/21/23 01:43 PM (9 months, 3 days ago)

she may of become more into someone else between the time of the nudes being sent and now. And sometimes that has NOTHING to do with you. And only about connection between the other two.


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Re: Women talk to me about their pain then fuck other guys [Re: lifeiswhatyoumake]
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    #28288702 - 04/21/23 05:10 PM (9 months, 3 days ago)

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Re: Women talk to me about their pain then fuck other guys [Re: thelanzii] * 1
    #28288869 - 04/21/23 06:41 PM (9 months, 3 days ago)

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thelanzii said:I have flirted plenty with her, shes sent me nudes.  but I am not the one fucking her

and was wondering if it is hindered by having these conversations.  no I don't think I deserve sex by talking about pain





If she's sent you nudes then you might have a chance, depending on how long ago she sent the nudes.
Did you even respond to her sending you nudes?  Did you say something like "damnnn gurl, you lookin' aight, I wanna spank that ass and see you crawl on the floor."  ?    Did you let her know you find her sexually attractive?

Since she's sent nudes, I don't think you're hindered by the convos about past pain.



she sent them a few months back but then had a mental breakdown and has been in therapy/recovering in life in general since.  She knows I find her sexually attractive and have shown interest in that area.  She is complicated, on plenty of px drugs and is still processing her brother committing suicide 3 years ago. 

I chatted with her briefly today.  She is "operating in her own little world"  which is why she said she bailed last night.  She is great and fun but also comes with plenty of other baggage which ultimately is a waste of time and not conducive to anything real or any of the other positive relationship adjectives.





Oh, well it sounds like she's going through a lot and maybe isn't ready for anything sexual. 
I personally would stop pursuing anything sexual with her, unless she makes it obvious she is interested again.
Maybe it's just meant to be friends then.


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the connection her and the other guy faded, he is left frustrated as well. 

I plan to meet other women, but there are other areas of my life that are more pressing right now.  Leaving my old job to find a career position and starting my own business. 

I won't have full confidence in myself until I am making a proper income and not living off of savings.





That sounds good.  And yea, that makes sense.  I support that plan.


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Re: Women talk to me about their pain then fuck other guys [Re: towndaze]
    #28289441 - 04/22/23 06:24 AM (9 months, 2 days ago)

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Re: Women talk to me about their pain then fuck other guys [Re: thelanzii]
    #28290142 - 04/22/23 04:11 PM (9 months, 2 days ago)

Different religiosity is a killer imo, deep down I don't respect those who hold it and as such I don't even try for them.

Like if some gal thinks she's a witch or that the moon only exists when she looks at it, I'm out!


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Re: Women talk to me about their pain then fuck other guys [Re: sudly]
    #28290825 - 04/23/23 04:42 AM (9 months, 1 day ago)

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Re: Women talk to me about their pain then fuck other guys [Re: thelanzii]
    #28290827 - 04/23/23 04:47 AM (9 months, 1 day ago)

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Re: Women talk to me about their pain then fuck other guys [Re: RJ Tubs 202]
    #28290852 - 04/23/23 05:18 AM (9 months, 1 day ago)

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    #28292546 - 04/24/23 07:43 AM (9 months, 11 hours ago)

The art of seduction is basically advanced inceldom.

First, the fundamental premise of seduction is that you will get girls...not the girl. You will not be able to use it to successfully get any particular girl, it just increases your chances of "scoring" with any new girl you meet, and teaches you to always be meeting new girls. Probably won't help with anything long term, unless random barflies meet your standards.

Second, it still places the agency entirely on women in your life. Spending your time figuring out the best way to look aloof and detached is still spending your time entirely focused on pleasing women.

Finally, it really only works on the under 25 crowd. There's a reason that the seduction people are always hanging out at college bars (yes, that dude in his 40s at the college bar is waiting to run game at 1am). And, I guess technically 18+ is legal, but...yeah, I'm in my 30s, and that shit is already icky.

Edit: do I have a better suggestion? Not really, apart from becoming the kind of guy women are attracted to. That just requires doing stuff. You don't even need to be particularly good at it, just as long as you're leaving the house and interacting and learning and shit. That's the most useful lesson you'll learn from seduction gurus: you don't get laid by sitting in your bedroom kicking ass at CS:GO.

Edit2: one more thing I overlooked, if you are currently trying to meet women by sitting in your bedroom and kicking ass at CS:GO, then seduction might help? It really gamifies interactions with women. That's the whole point of their lingo, like "sets" and "frame control" and whatever else. It literally applies videogames call-out language from discord to human interactions, to make gamers more comfortable.


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Re: Women talk to me about their pain then fuck other guys [Re: Kryptos]
    #28292580 - 04/24/23 08:16 AM (9 months, 11 hours ago)

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The art of seduction is basically advanced inceldom.

First, the fundamental premise of seduction is that you will get girls...not the girl. You will not be able to use it to successfully get any particular girl, it just increases your chances of "scoring" with any new girl you meet, and teaches you to always be meeting new girls. Probably won't help with anything long term, unless random barflies meet your standards.

Second, it still places the agency entirely on women in your life. Spending your time figuring out the best way to look aloof and detached is still spending your time entirely focused on pleasing women.

Finally, it really only works on the under 25 crowd. There's a reason that the seduction people are always hanging out at college bars (yes, that dude in his 40s at the college bar is waiting to run game at 1am). And, I guess technically 18+ is legal, but...yeah, I'm in my 30s, and that shit is already icky.

Edit: do I have a better suggestion? Not really, apart from becoming the kind of guy women are attracted to. That just requires doing stuff. You don't even need to be particularly good at it, just as long as you're leaving the house and interacting and learning and shit. That's the most useful lesson you'll learn from seduction gurus: you don't get laid by sitting in your bedroom kicking ass at CS:GO.

Edit2: one more thing I overlooked, if you are currently trying to meet women by sitting in your bedroom and kicking ass at CS:GO, then seduction might help? It really gamifies interactions with women. That's the whole point of their lingo, like "sets" and "frame control" and whatever else. It literally applies videogames call-out language from discord to human interactions, to make gamers more comfortable.




This was a pretty cool analysis. I enjoyed reading it. Really interesting connection of gaming, I personally haven't heard it before.


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Re: Women talk to me about their pain then fuck other guys [Re: Kryptos]
    #28292589 - 04/24/23 08:24 AM (9 months, 10 hours ago)

Alright Mr Tate, treat em mean keep em keen, play hot and cold, break em down to build them up, make them feel like they can't do any better than you..

Playing these kinds of games can gain the trust of overly trusting or naive individuals, but the player sure has to be ruthless to do it imo.

And don't forget to sprinkle in a little feeling of 'spiritual connection' to really hook in the astrologically or witchcraft inclined ones.. :rolleyes:


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Re: Women talk to me about their pain then fuck other guys [Re: Kryptos] * 1
    #28293554 - 04/24/23 06:46 PM (9 months, 30 minutes ago)

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Re: Women talk to me about their pain then fuck other guys [Re: thelanzii]
    #28293591 - 04/24/23 07:14 PM (9 months, 3 minutes ago)

I like the ones with coloured hair who talk nerdy shit.


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Re: Women talk to me about their pain then fuck other guys [Re: sudly]
    #28294209 - 04/25/23 05:11 AM (8 months, 30 days ago)

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    #28295583 - 04/26/23 12:42 AM (8 months, 29 days ago)

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Re: Women talk to me about their pain then fuck other guys [Re: thelanzii]
    #28295861 - 04/26/23 07:48 AM (8 months, 29 days ago)

Sounds like you were infatuated then. It happens to the best of us. At least it's pretty easy to move on from that.

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Re: Women talk to me about their pain then fuck other guys [Re: thelanzii]
    #28295990 - 04/26/23 09:26 AM (8 months, 29 days ago)

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An odd concept for me as one would think someone they have feelings for would enhance life not cause a lack of peace




Some would say this is a symptom of anxious attachment that many experience.

It's often associated with a strong fear of rejection or abandonment, and clinginess and neediness.


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Re: Women talk to me about their pain then fuck other guys [Re: RJ Tubs 202]
    #28296916 - 04/26/23 09:45 PM (8 months, 28 days ago)

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Re: Women talk to me about their pain then fuck other guys [Re: thelanzii]
    #28296931 - 04/26/23 09:53 PM (8 months, 28 days ago)

I think they were talking about her.. not you


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Re: Women talk to me about their pain then fuck other guys [Re: thelanzii]
    #28296947 - 04/26/23 10:10 PM (8 months, 28 days ago)

"I wanted to talk to you about something that's been on my mind lately. We've had some deep and meaningful conversations, and I've really enjoyed connecting with you on that level. However, I've noticed that our relationship has taken emotional turns, and I'm not sure if we're on the same page.

I value our friendship and connection, but I've been feeling a bit used and unappreciated lately. For example, when I reached out to you after a long day, I didn't hear back from you for days, and it left me feeling disrespected.

I don't want to put any pressure on you or our relationship, but I think it's important for us to communicate openly and honestly about our feelings and expectations. Are you looking for something more romantic with me, or do you see our relationship as strictly platonic? I just want to make sure we're not wasting each other's time and that we both understand where we stand."


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    #28296950 - 04/26/23 10:12 PM (8 months, 28 days ago)

Calling that a relationship is creepy imo.

She just a friend, none of yo business what she do otherwise :shrug:



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Re: Women talk to me about their pain then fuck other guys [Re: sudly]
    #28296959 - 04/26/23 10:19 PM (8 months, 28 days ago)

In hindsight relationship might be too strong of a word, sure. 

I think he just needs to be direct and ask where things are going or stop wasting his emotional energy on something that isn't. Easy way to find out, and if the answer is that he's not the dude he'll save himself a lot of heartache.


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Re: Women talk to me about their pain then fuck other guys [Re: sudly]
    #28296960 - 04/26/23 10:19 PM (8 months, 28 days ago)

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Re: Women talk to me about their pain then fuck other guys [Re: thelanzii]
    #28296963 - 04/26/23 10:21 PM (8 months, 28 days ago)

WHOA
BIG clue to everything that now makes everything make more sense..
she's on drugs
It has nothing to do with you.. she is not ok
Ofcourse it was a relationship, you have a relationship with someone and it's not an intimate relationship.
I have a relationship with the post office lady :smile:


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    #28296964 - 04/26/23 10:21 PM (8 months, 28 days ago)

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    #28296965 - 04/26/23 10:23 PM (8 months, 28 days ago)

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Re: Women talk to me about their pain then fuck other guys [Re: thelanzii]
    #28296972 - 04/26/23 10:31 PM (8 months, 28 days ago)

She has a lot going on.
It is apparent it has nothing to do with you. She has some things going on deep inside her.
I think most people are wonderful to their core. We have issues, everyone does to different degrees.
Obviously she needs a friend. Just a friend.


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    #28298337 - 04/28/23 02:32 AM (8 months, 27 days ago)

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Re: Women talk to me about their pain then fuck other guys [Re: thelanzii]
    #28299125 - 04/28/23 04:47 PM (8 months, 27 days ago)

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i currently do freelance work to make income
I do play online fps but have no interest in meeting an egirl

I dont leave the house enough, at my last job I talked to people all day

not particularly interested in "barflies"  as I find a lot of younger women basic and boring.  Part of the reason why I was attracted to this girl is because she had experienced real pain and had some character depth.

I may start going to some of the Buddhist groups in town.  being apart of some more casual activities is of interest as well.  Just not really sure what to do as my default state is operating alone in my room. 

its an interesting post and I remember when I was younger in college, and hs I had never read anything about game and did just fine with women

game kind of feels like a trick or an act

not knocking it because i do need to work on seduction, leading the conversation and just in general being deliberate with my word choice to enhance attraction.




Also my problem. I dont go anywhere to meet anyone. And the places I go are not appropriate for me to meet potential romantic interests.
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    #28300695 - 04/30/23 06:06 AM (8 months, 25 days ago)

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Re: Women talk to me about their pain then fuck other guys [Re: thelanzii]
    #28300707 - 04/30/23 06:19 AM (8 months, 25 days ago)

Well what do you want? Casual, serious, one night etc. And what kind of girl or girl with shared interests are you looking for?

I think it's important to try and figure out what you do and don't want, and that usually means communicating it, but also just meeting up with people and seeing if there's any chemistry.


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Re: Women talk to me about their pain then fuck other guys [Re: sudly]
    #28300980 - 04/30/23 10:47 AM (8 months, 25 days ago)

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Re: Women talk to me about their pain then fuck other guys [Re: thelanzii]
    #28301095 - 04/30/23 12:36 PM (8 months, 25 days ago)

Try to not have those conversations all the time. Make her feel like she can talk to you about your pain. But try and fill your time with positive things.

The shallow guy is fun and makes her feel happy

I'm late to the party and didn't read anyone else's post. I'm sure someone said this already.


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Re: Women talk to me about their pain then fuck other guys [Re: thelanzii]
    #28301725 - 05/01/23 12:33 AM (8 months, 24 days ago)

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Looking for casual for a bit then I am sure I will get bored and want something in the dating realm.




Not sure what you mean here because casual is something in the dating realm.

I also think similarities in religious or secular views are pretty fundamental to anything more than a one night stand too, because in the end I think it represents a lot of what people value, and if people value different things in a foundational way like that, it probably isn't going to work out, or at least in my view that's often the case.


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Re: Women talk to me about their pain then fuck other guys [Re: sudly]
    #28302110 - 05/01/23 11:14 AM (8 months, 24 days ago)

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I am white and spend most of the day in my head.  Dancing is a fear of mine.  I see how it's a form of expression, although have been in sitautions where the feeling was it was forced.  I have been to music festivals where I enjoyed myself far more in the bleachers observing it all as opposed to being in the crowd.




Witnessed and called, clipped and shipped. 🤷♀️
You're going to fix this. 👨⚕️ Doctor's orders. This type of thing is not necessary for everyone. Hell it's not necessary for everyone to do with people they want to interest. But for people like you it's basically T H E hurdle to get around. You're fifteen hundred feet too far up in your own brain and it makes you seem uninspiring, weird and, worst of all, radiating a mild undercurrent of judgement everywhere you go. I don't know that cause I know you but I know that cause I know the type of person I used to be and the type of person I run into over and over and over in these, as marketers call it, "spaces".



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She lacks the depth I look for in a woman.


 
Women like that are either 15 years older or already married to their highschool sweetheart or currently working at cat shelters or attending gunshows & MLP cons. Basically you'd need to go weirder or back in time in terms of environment if you want depth since depth in context like this tends to involve (im)aturity and non-standard interests and experiences.

PS:
Poi.
Devil/Flower sticks.
Gloving.
Tutting.
Learn how to do any of these/all of them if you want something more formalized than dancing. Tutting & gloving especially was basically invented for people too on the spectrum and anxious for proper dancing.


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    #28303479 - 05/02/23 01:06 PM (8 months, 23 days ago)

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    #28303543 - 05/02/23 01:42 PM (8 months, 23 days ago)

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I am glad this experience with this girl happened because it has pushed me towards becoming more self-aware, acting on self-improvement, and really pondering what I find interesting in a girl.  At the end of the day, I didn't really find this girl much more interesting than a sexual partner with some fun character attributes sprinkled in here and there.




:thumbup:

Personally I've found good connections with women 30+. I'm 27.

I appreciate good emotional intelligence and some confidence which I've found moreso with such women.


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    #28304062 - 05/02/23 08:24 PM (8 months, 22 days ago)

Where do you guys live?
I need to be around men that like older women
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    #28304180 - 05/02/23 09:34 PM (8 months, 22 days ago)

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Where do you guys live?
I need to be around men that like older women
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Quote:

loladoreen said:
Where do you guys live?
I need to be around men that like older women
:smile:




You might like this article/survey: https://www.shaneco.com/theloupe/jewelry-education/love-relationships/average-dating-age-range-in-every-state/




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    #28304920 - 05/03/23 01:01 PM (8 months, 22 days ago)

Ooof!

Perhaps thats 1 of the reasons why youre having trouble finding a lover :strokebeard:


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    #28304939 - 05/03/23 01:14 PM (8 months, 22 days ago)

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I have been reading about dating, game and that area lately and have noticed many of my flawed actions as well as it bringing some clarity to my situation.




:thumbup:

I'm amazed how many WRONG ideas I've had about women, being attractive, and the art of seduction.  It's one thing to be clueless and ignorant, but I had embraced some very wrong and distorted ideas that have fueled a myriad of missed connections during my lifetime.


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Ooof!

Perhaps thats 1 of the reasons why youre having trouble finding a lover :strokebeard:




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Quote:

thelanzii said:

I have been reading about dating, game and that area lately and have noticed many of my flawed actions as well as it bringing some clarity to my situation.




:thumbup:

I'm amazed how many WRONG ideas I've had about women, being attractive, and the art of seduction.  It's one thing to be clueless and ignorant, but I had embraced some very wrong and distorted ideas that have fueled a myriad of missed connections during my lifetime.




Haven't all of us? I love that you are able to admit that. I think there is a lot of maturity and personal growth behind someone that is able to say that.
I also have and I missed out on good people and opportunities.


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    #28306454 - 05/04/23 01:03 PM (8 months, 21 days ago)

had an interview today

it went very well, had her laughing and playing with her necklace

she said she loved my calm voice

was definitely interesting dynamic and experience for an interview

she also said she would recommend me for the position above the position I was applying for

big city, good job and a confidence boost might be having my dating life drastically improve in the near future

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Quote:

thelanzii said:

I have been reading about dating, game and that area lately and have noticed many of my flawed actions as well as it bringing some clarity to my situation.




:thumbup:

I'm amazed how many WRONG ideas I've had about women, being attractive, and the art of seduction.  It's one thing to be clueless and ignorant, but I had embraced some very wrong and distorted ideas that have fueled a myriad of missed connections during my lifetime.



one thing I don't get is the asshole attraction thing. I understand teasing its fun.  I don't understand why being an asshole has women responding well to it.


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Re: Women talk to me about their pain then fuck other guys [Re: thelanzii] * 1
    #28306684 - 05/04/23 04:31 PM (8 months, 21 days ago)

Assholes look confident before you realize they're assholes. This is also why I treat seduction as "advanced inceldom"...seduction is very, uh, seductive to incels. However, instead of putting in the work required to actually develop attractive qualities, they just fake them. Which, more often than not, basically means they begin acting like ginormous douches. You'll actually see this a lot in the community--most pickup artists and coaches will openly tell you that they are assholes. Actually, in my experience, if a man readily admits to being an asshole, there's a solid chance they've recently tried to learn seduction.

Oftentimes, when you see people being assholes in real life, that is because they can get away with it due to power/status/wealth/whatever. So, by acting like an asshole, you pretend to be the kind of guy that has power/status/whatever, and the entire goal is to dazzle inexperienced women long enough to sleep with them. That's what seduction people mean by "frame control"--you must keep the interaction happening on your terms, that way she doesn't get to peek behind the curtain and realize there's nothing there.

The concept of nice guy refers to men that believe that they can buy sex through doing a certain specific combination of gifts, favors, and conversations. Bit like how you can use a cheat code in a videogame for god mode, they believe there is a similar cheat code that unlocks panties. The most pernicious aspect of this is that this is not a discussed situation, but more of a secret expectation. So, from the girl's perspective, some random guy that does her favors occasionally suddenly flips out and demands sex, and when she's like "um...what?" the guy points to all the "nice" things that he's done. Then he goes on the internet and complains how he's such a nice guy but still can't get laid.


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Re: Women talk to me about their pain then fuck other guys [Re: thelanzii]
    #28306706 - 05/04/23 04:53 PM (8 months, 21 days ago)

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I have been reading about dating, game and that area lately and have noticed many of my flawed actions as well as it bringing some clarity to my situation.




:thumbup:

I'm amazed how many WRONG ideas I've had about women, being attractive, and the art of seduction.  It's one thing to be clueless and ignorant, but I had embraced some very wrong and distorted ideas that have fueled a myriad of missed connections during my lifetime.



one thing I don't get is the asshole attraction thing. I understand teasing its fun.  I don't understand why being an asshole has women responding well to it.


Not sure what the concept of nice guy means - I hear it thrown around all the time and there's always multiple definitions




I have never understood the asshole attraction.
I love nice guys. I love the boyscout. that can be dirty for me
I like bad guys too.. but they are temporary fun.
The nice guy... is who you want.


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Re: Women talk to me about their pain then fuck other guys [Re: loladoreen]
    #28306717 - 05/04/23 05:11 PM (8 months, 21 days ago)

The guy who's confident in himself, has his own sense of independence, and understands how to respect a lady in the street, and be mean in the sheets. A respectful tease.

A 'nice guy' is usually a pushover who is probably too frigid to make the first move, let alone to show actual interest.


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Re: Women talk to me about their pain then fuck other guys [Re: sudly]
    #28306738 - 05/04/23 05:26 PM (8 months, 21 days ago)

I think everyones interpretation is different. What you described to me is a nice guy. A guy who's not going to beat your ass, disrespect me, etc
But is a gentleman
god I miss gentleman.. real gentleman.


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Re: Women talk to me about their pain then fuck other guys [Re: loladoreen]
    #28306759 - 05/04/23 05:43 PM (8 months, 21 days ago)

The guy who smacks your but in private, and well centred for oomf

Haha even that's a bit weird though. Some people are spontaneous, some more reactive.

Takes time getting to know how someone handles themselves, but talking about it and asking is usually a pretty good way.


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Re: Women talk to me about their pain then fuck other guys [Re: thelanzii]
    #28306988 - 05/04/23 09:15 PM (8 months, 20 days ago)

Completely agree
I grew up with 6 brothers and my dad is a gentleman. I watched my dad and mom dance and make out and my dad give her flowers and open the door for her.
My brothers are the same.
I have never had a man treat me like my dad or brothers.
I was lucky that I had such a great father and my brothers are really good guys.
I have struggled with ideas of what I think things should be. And I accept that not everyone is the same. Not everyone was raised like I was.
I married man who had no idea about things I thought were basic. He didnt know to walk on the outside on the sidewalk for example or to check the oil and fluids before a trip. Things I took for granted.
His dad was abusive and drunk
my dad took me on my first date .. I am certain to set a bar that others needed to try to reach. NO one has reached it ever.
sorry.. got on a tangent.
anyhow. when I was younger I struggle with it. I love gentleman. I am ok not being with one. Because I have not found one..
but.. its also ok.


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Re: Women talk to me about their pain then fuck other guys [Re: loladoreen]
    #28307037 - 05/04/23 09:46 PM (8 months, 20 days ago)

I think some women expect chivalry too. I can be romantic if I'm in a commited relationship, heck even in a casual fling I suppose the dinners could be considered romantic, but they're just fun for me.

But like pulling chairs out at dinner, excitedly greeting waiters, putting my coat over her in light rain, or my jumper in the cold, almost wanting me to feign wonder at an idea I don't agree with, wanting white lies etc.

Like if people have these expectations that's fine, but I'm not the kind of guy that will always meet them, and I've found that my ex at least had these expectations then said she didn't, but only resolved the issue when I apologised for not meeting the expectations she didn't have :stoned:


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Re: Women talk to me about their pain then fuck other guys [Re: thelanzii]
    #28307042 - 05/04/23 09:52 PM (8 months, 20 days ago)

I certainly had them for a long time. I had to get out in the world and grow as a person more. Before I realized everyone is different.
Its not a personal defect when someone is different then I desire or was taught to expect.
I really had a thought in my mind that if man was not a gentleman.. he was not a good man. I am almost 50 now and talking about how I was in my teen to 23ish.
It was little things for me, not opening doors, being polite. A guy honking his horn and expects me to run out of the house.
thing like that
I wouldn't expect my chair to be pulled out
NOW.. present day I rarely ever see men like this.. never.
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Re: Women talk to me about their pain then fuck other guys [Re: thelanzii]
    #28307043 - 05/04/23 09:52 PM (8 months, 20 days ago)

And just to be fair
I rarely see women I consider ladies.
Things have changed and for the good.


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Re: Women talk to me about their pain then fuck other guys [Re: loladoreen] * 2
    #28307069 - 05/04/23 10:49 PM (8 months, 20 days ago)

I had my ex bring up that I didn't pay for her coffee on one of our dates 2 years later. Like the comparisons to the friends was something that took be aback often.

Recently been seeing a lady and on first date went went to pay at counter, I told waitress well split the check, my date said, 'I'm not one of those women who expects the man to pay on the first date', I said I was only going to pay for myself, but she said she'd pay for it and that I could get it next time.

It was refreshing to hear.

Man or women, decent respect and treating with dignity is a minimum.

Dignity has been blurred with intimacy for me at times as I've matured. Hasn't always been clear what's okay and what's not, and everyone's different again.

I filter people in life I get close top who I feel have similar views about some foundational aspects of the world, and although there are less people I associate with, those I do I feel I'm more compatible with.


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Re: Women talk to me about their pain then fuck other guys [Re: sudly]
    #28307076 - 05/04/23 11:01 PM (8 months, 20 days ago)

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I had my ex bring up that I didn't pay for her coffee on one of our dates 2 years later. Like the comparisons to the friends was something that took be aback often.

Recently been seeing a lady and on first date went went to pay at counter, I told waitress well split the check, my date said, 'I'm not one of those women who expects the man to pay on the first date', I said I was only going to pay for myself, but she said she'd pay for it and that I could get it next time.

It was refreshing to hear.

Man or women, decent respect and treating with dignity is a minimum.

Dignity has been blurred with intimacy for me at times as I've matured. Hasn't always been clear what's okay and what's not, and everyone's different again.

I filter people in life I get close top who I feel have similar views about some foundational aspects of the world, and although there are less people I associate with, those I do I feel I'm more compatible with.




Its nice when you dont have expectations.. you know?
I dont expect anyone to pay for me meal, etc. I dont expect much form anyone . And then when it's done, whatever it is.. what a nice thoughtful gesture. I appreciate it more.


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Re: Women talk to me about their pain then fuck other guys [Re: loladoreen]
    #28307085 - 05/04/23 11:19 PM (8 months, 20 days ago)

Oh I know :wink:

I think it's because when we have expectations they can become premeditated resentments, but when I don't have expectations, even the little things can be pleasant surprises. And if nothing happens, nothing changes :shrug: and that's okay.


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    #28307086 - 05/04/23 11:21 PM (8 months, 20 days ago)

YES!!!!!!


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Re: Women talk to me about their pain then fuck other guys [Re: sudly] * 1
    #28308226 - 05/05/23 08:11 PM (8 months, 19 days ago)

We got the job!!!!!!!!



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Re: Women talk to me about their pain then fuck other guys [Re: loladoreen]
    #28310079 - 05/07/23 09:47 AM (8 months, 18 days ago)

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The nice guy... is who you want.




One common issue with nice guys is they often lack the ability to be dangerous.  Being dangerous is not equivalent to being violent.  Being dangerous means that one has the ability to engage in violence if necessary.

A man who is unwilling to engage in violence if necessary is handicapped and is viewed by many women as weak.  Some situations call for being able to defend our loved ones.  Sometimes that requires violence.

But now we're drowning in lamentations of "toxic masculinity"


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Re: Women talk to me about their pain then fuck other guys [Re: RJ Tubs 202]
    #28310088 - 05/07/23 10:12 AM (8 months, 18 days ago)

And that's a red flag! I've never been in a fight before.

Seems a pretty good skill to be able to keep a calm head even during controntrational situations, and to be able to simply not engage with people who are aggressive. One punch can kill and violence can easily destroy lives.

There is no violence required to defend loved ones, the only situation where violence is a necessity is in self defense, but for the most part it's relatively easy to avoid putting oneself in such a situation.

Other than a robber in a house what example are you thinking of? Some drunk guy trying to hit on your gf in a bar? If the womans worth being with she'd be able to reject his advances imo.

And if I was in such a situation and he tried to belittle me? It'd be weird to engage aggressively, easy to laugh off in my experience.


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Re: Women talk to me about their pain then fuck other guys [Re: thelanzii]
    #28310711 - 05/07/23 08:04 PM (8 months, 17 days ago)

But I agree on the toxic masculinity


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Re: Women talk to me about their pain then fuck other guys [Re: loladoreen]
    #28310733 - 05/07/23 08:38 PM (8 months, 17 days ago)

The, "I don't hit men because touching men is gay" kinda thing that gives the sense of someone's masculinity being 'changed' from the hug of another man.

I think there is a difference between the approach that says, 'treat them mean, keep them keen', and the one of, 'respect them in the streets, be mean in the sheets.'


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Re: Women talk to me about their pain then fuck other guys [Re: sudly] * 1
    #28311306 - 05/08/23 11:30 AM (8 months, 17 days ago)



think the next step for me before I move for my new job is quitting porn and nicotine

the video above really opened my eyes


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Re: Women talk to me about their pain then fuck other guys [Re: thelanzii] * 1
    #28311574 - 05/08/23 03:01 PM (8 months, 17 days ago)

Believe it or not majority of the young men I work with tell me they dont watch porn because it is disrespectful to women and ruins intimacy in their relationships.
young men=age 25-15
In the beginning I was surprised. Now.... I think this generation is amazing.


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Re: Women talk to me about their pain then fuck other guys [Re: thelanzii]
    #28311585 - 05/08/23 03:10 PM (8 months, 17 days ago)

Interesting video.
I think porn is different for men and women.
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Re: Women talk to me about their pain then fuck other guys [Re: loladoreen]
    #28312113 - 05/09/23 12:53 AM (8 months, 16 days ago)

Thats nutz! The youth are evolving :mindblown:

Porn definitely has a brain-washing effect. It normalizes not-so-normal sex. My friend had it real bad. I had it pretty bad too at one point. Im glad i have better control over my porn urges in my 30's. It really helps to keep a more sexually-normal and helps me avoid visual desensitization.


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Re: Women talk to me about their pain then fuck other guys [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #28312236 - 05/09/23 05:50 AM (8 months, 16 days ago)

I don't buy the porn brain premise. It becomes a problem when it interferes with your life, but if it's not doing that, then go ahead and watch what you'd like. Those urges don't arise from porn, they're deeper in the psychology of a person. I rather have a pedophile watch porn and never touch a kid then attempt to repress his urges, think he's "in control" and have those drives arise in other ways. Ideally he would get professional help, but the reality is more people have socially unacceptable kinks of one form or another, and the majority of people are not getting professional help. So a dilemma...

Also, if you ejaculate once a day, you have a lower risk for prostate cancer. Not sure if that was already mentioned, but clearly "no fappers" are not right.


Finally, the irony of the video you posted by Denmo is that he has two separate rape/assault charges against him. And he's telling his followers that they shouldn't watch porn? This man himself is confused.


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Re: Women talk to me about their pain then fuck other guys [Re: Roflspammer] * 2
    #28312373 - 05/09/23 08:35 AM (8 months, 16 days ago)

Yeah, porn is not the problem, addiction to porn is a problem. The porn itself is fine, the addiction is not. If you're not calling your boss to say you'll be late again because you need to rub one out, then you have a problem. If IT is sending you email asking you what you're visiting at work then you have a problem. Fix the problem.

Not to say porn is great, porn is fundamentally sexual exploitation. Healthy, well adjusted people do not become porn stars.

But that video is dumb as fuck. And it is redpill shit.

People like denmo is why women carry pepper spray.


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    #28312831 - 05/09/23 02:26 PM (8 months, 16 days ago)

Give more detail on your negative view of denmo

he seems funny and has approaches with women where they seem pretty happy he approached them

as far as porn, I don't have a problem with it to the extent its affecting the big areas of my life

but I feel like it makes my brain and enjoyment more dull


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Re: Women talk to me about their pain then fuck other guys [Re: thelanzii]
    #28312868 - 05/09/23 03:01 PM (8 months, 16 days ago)

You mean apart from the multiple rape allegations?

That's the magic of video editing. You see the one girl that's into it, not the dozen that were creeped out. Or sexually assaulted.

This is why I left the seduction community. Literally every single seduction coach/guru/whatever ends up with rape charges. RSD really opened my eyes to the harm that community brings. They all pivoted to "life coaching" disconnected from getting girls after all of the sexual assaults. Their members are also banned from entering a number of countries in Europe because...well, they'd fly to Europe and do that shit.

Again, the entire ideology of seduction is how to maximize the chances of getting your dick wet in any scenario you are in. Sometimes, that means coercive rape.

Thing is, there is some good advice in that community. There really is. It's just you're not gonna get it from the guy that has multiple sexual assault allegations against him, unless that is your intended outcome.

The other worst part, as described in an hbomberguy video from a while back, is that there really isn't a non-rapey equivalent community that can provide you with the skills you need to pick up women.


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    #28312876 - 05/09/23 03:05 PM (8 months, 16 days ago)

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    #28312883 - 05/09/23 03:09 PM (8 months, 16 days ago)

Yeah, he raped a chick in 2020 and then caught charges from another girl last November.

Actually, another point made by hbomberguy that I ran into myself, is that you will quickly get sick of random sex. Or become addicted to it. It becomes just like porn, except you lose the ability to form genuine connections with women. It's like when you're super afraid of texting a girl you like, but with dates. It becomes easier to go out and find some barfly than to plan a second date.

I became legitimately almost afraid of women I actually liked for more than it took to get my nut.


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    #28312889 - 05/09/23 03:17 PM (8 months, 16 days ago)

well zooming out and taking him out of the conversation

how does one meet women if they do not approach them?

I saw a woman who was attractive and someone I wouldn't mind knowing at the grocery store the other day.  I did not approach because Im about to move.  Would it be so wrong for me to chat with her for 2 minutes and say I would like to get to know her?


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Re: Women talk to me about their pain then fuck other guys [Re: thelanzii]
    #28312902 - 05/09/23 03:25 PM (8 months, 16 days ago)

No, not at all. If I see a cute girl in the wine aisle on a weekday, Imma go say hi.

It's kinda hard to explain, so I might need to rethink/rewrite this later.

I guess, the question is why are you making the approach?

On the one hand, if you're gonna have a genuine interaction with another human being without any expectations, then awesome. Go for it.

But on the other hand, the fact that your upcoming move stopped you tells me that you are going into this situation with a certain expectation. That is dangerous.

Further, as I've alluded to earlier, seduction has its own language, almost like a videogame. Their own lingo. You weren't about to approach, you were about to "open a set". That language quickly veers into dehumanizing.

Like, obviously attractiveness matters, right? But at the same time, you should be willing to have that exact same interaction with a woman you find actively unattractive. You don't have to take the interaction to your bedroom, but...you're not already planning out that night when you first walk up to a woman and say hi, right?


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Re: Women talk to me about their pain then fuck other guys [Re: thelanzii]
    #28312913 - 05/09/23 03:39 PM (8 months, 16 days ago)

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how does one meet women if they do not approach them?

I saw a woman who was attractive and someone I wouldn't mind knowing at the grocery store the other day.  I did not approach because Im about to move.  Would it be so wrong for me to chat with her for 2 minutes and say I would like to get to know her?





I have met a lot of women in person via online dating apps.
Regarding your scenario, sure, go say hi if you want.  If she says "hi" back and smiles then you probably can continue talking to her without being a creep.  If you find yourself having a nice and natural conversation then you could bring up the fact that you're only in town for a few more weeks or whatever, but you'd be interested to get to know her and maybe have some fun in that time, and see if she's interested.  If not, then say "have a good day" and walk away feeling like a winner because you tried.


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    #28312917 - 05/09/23 03:41 PM (8 months, 16 days ago)

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I guess, the question is why are you making the approach?



I see what you're getting at with no expectations to be blunt she is someone who I would have most definitely enjoyed having sex with, she was well put together smelled nice and had a soft voice talking to her friend. 

She was probably in college because I currently live in a massive college town and that is a deterrent as well as being about to move.

Why is it dangerous to approach with the intent of a woman being a potential partner?  with proper wording, I am sure she would get the vibe that I am not trying to be friends


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    #28312928 - 05/09/23 03:50 PM (8 months, 16 days ago)

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Why is it dangerous to approach with the intent of a woman being a potential partner?




Well, for one thing, damn that's some low standards. Why not approach her with the intent of seeing if she's an interesting person, before you start adding partners to the mix?

Kinda falls into the everything in moderation trap, too. A lot of these things are okay, but as you keep doing them more and more, they become less okay, and they will affect how your interactions go.

An old exercise I remember doing back in the day, was all about sexualizing conversations. Which is kind of required to, ya know, lead to sexual situations. Obviously. The exercise was to pick an inanimate object, and then add "having sex with me is like [object] because..." and fill in the blank. For example: having sex with me is like a chair, because you're gonna be sitting on some hard wood soon.

Except then you start slipping those things into situations that should not be sexualized.



I think it was that video, but It's been a while and I don't wanna watch half an hour to make sure it's the right one. I recall it being about an hour long, though, so perhaps this one has been edited down?


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Re: Women talk to me about their pain then fuck other guys [Re: thelanzii]
    #28312967 - 05/09/23 04:29 PM (8 months, 16 days ago)

Interesting turn on the conversation.


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Re: Women talk to me about their pain then fuck other guys [Re: Kryptos]
    #28312980 - 05/09/23 04:40 PM (8 months, 16 days ago)

well i have wanted to have sex with women I didn't exactly find fully interesting, that's partially how this thread started

I do see your point and appreciate the insight


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Re: Women talk to me about their pain then fuck other guys [Re: thelanzii]
    #28312982 - 05/09/23 04:42 PM (8 months, 16 days ago)

I wasn't being sarcastic. I find it all interesting. Very.


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Re: Women talk to me about their pain then fuck other guys [Re: loladoreen]
    #28313154 - 05/09/23 06:26 PM (8 months, 16 days ago)

Community groups and volunteering or hobby groups can be good for meeting like minded individuals.

The 'art of seduction' sounds like a lesson in how to build a fake persona to convince a woman to sleep with you after a short time, more like a one night stand gig.

But for long term or fwb I think the approach can easily become abusive.

The blunt approach in the store would probably scream of desperation.

Its also pretty obvious to a lot of people when a guy is trying to sexualise the situation.

I mean, if you're not actually interested the the woman for more than sex, the one night stand approach or art of seduction seem good enough because it doesn't really matter how you come off in the end.

But for anything more than once.. Got to hear examples of how that worked out :shrug:

Some people do meet for booty calls alone with no real companionship, and that works for some, but isn't a personal preference.


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Re: Women talk to me about their pain then fuck other guys [Re: sudly]
    #28313886 - 05/10/23 08:09 AM (8 months, 15 days ago)

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The 'art of seduction' sounds like a lesson in how to build a fake persona to convince a woman to sleep with you after a short time, more like a one night stand gig.




I held many misconceptions about seduction until I learned more about it.  It's not manipulation or being fake.  It's the opposite - it's how to be authentic.  Some aspects of seduction overlap with the famous "Law of Attraction".

I've used some aspects of seduction to initiate meaningful discussions and form new friendships.  Seduction isn't necessarily about sex.  I've even used some of these ideas to entertain children with some of my magic tricks and clowning.  Being authentic while lacking fear doesn't come naturally to many people.

A lot of aspects of seduction are focused on the skills of holding a good conversation.  Many millions of males lack the skills of talking to women, and it is getting worse.  Many males are so clueless about interacting with women they don't even try.

These days I've heard some women say they don't want to have any type of relationship with males because they see no benefits to it.  Wow - that's a big shift.


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Re: Women talk to me about their pain then fuck other guys [Re: RJ Tubs 202]
    #28314253 - 05/10/23 12:27 PM (8 months, 15 days ago)

:amusedapplause:
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Manipulation used for seduction is very rapey to me


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Re: Women talk to me about their pain then fuck other guys [Re: loladoreen]
    #28314278 - 05/10/23 12:47 PM (8 months, 15 days ago)

For sure.
Guys just need to chill out and not overthink it when it comes to this stuff.
Just be a good mannered, considerate dude and don't force anything, it should be natural and good.
You'll know if things are going well because she will look at you a lot and smile and engage in conversation.


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Re: Women talk to me about their pain then fuck other guys [Re: thelanzii]
    #28314308 - 05/10/23 01:07 PM (8 months, 15 days ago)

exactly


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Re: Women talk to me about their pain then fuck other guys [Re: RJ Tubs 202]
    #28314343 - 05/10/23 01:34 PM (8 months, 15 days ago)

What's one law of attraction you know of?

I think having interesting conversations is a good start, and if there chemistry there's chemistry, things have kind of just worked out for me when I haven't expected things to always work out.

Sometimes the chemistry isn't there on the first date, sometimes it works out well.

I think that when there is chemistry there are certain ways to bring up intimacy at the right time and to do it in a way that if fun and not weird, but whats one example from the art of seduction you can think of?

And yeah, some women don't like a lot of men, some men don't like a lot of women, but there is so much diversity that some people of all genders or sexualities can get along.

And as for incels, every guy has been one at some point, but it usually sticks around when the guy belittles, generalises or looks down on women saying things like there are women who don't like any men at all.


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Re: Women talk to me about their pain then fuck other guys [Re: RJ Tubs 202]
    #28314703 - 05/10/23 06:31 PM (8 months, 15 days ago)

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A lot of aspects of seduction are focused on the skills of holding a good conversation.  Many millions of males lack the skills of talking to women, and it is getting worse.  Many males are so clueless about interacting with women they don't even try.




RJ is right, too. That's the thorny bit. A bit of a confidence boost and a few training wheels to talk to the first few women is a good thing.

It is also extremely adjacent to extremely toxic communities, and you need to be really careful about that. When you regularly interact with incels, being the guy that does a minimum of 20 approaches a day for the last month to finally get a date seems relatively "reasonable".


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Re: Women talk to me about their pain then fuck other guys [Re: thelanzii] * 1
    #28314718 - 05/10/23 06:44 PM (8 months, 15 days ago)

A grocery store is arguably one of the worst and weirdest places to approach someone to tell them you want to have sex with them.

At least go to a butcher and wait till someone picks up a sausage before you make a joke about yer meat.

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Re: Women talk to me about their pain then fuck other guys [Re: sudly]
    #28314873 - 05/10/23 08:32 PM (8 months, 14 days ago)

i didnt approach or nor would i tell a girl I want to have sex with her

I just thought she was pretty

and if you are never going to see the girl if u don't approach or rejects who cares

I have received enough positive looks at the grocery store over the years


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Re: Women talk to me about their pain then fuck other guys [Re: thelanzii]
    #28314887 - 05/10/23 08:42 PM (8 months, 14 days ago)

Positive looks at the grocery store? That's a low standard man.

Why not just approach any pretty person you see on the street or in any store if that's the go.

Just sounds cringy to me.

At a party, event or group of some sort, sure I think it's good to approach people and it's good to be able to face and handle rejection.

But the not the damn grocery store!
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Re: Women talk to me about their pain then fuck other guys [Re: thelanzii] * 1
    #28314999 - 05/10/23 10:32 PM (8 months, 14 days ago)

I almost got a woman's number at the grocery store. I was at the entrance and she was leaving, i was entering the store and she gave me a very seductive look. She asked me "Hey, do you have a girlfriend?". I replied "Yeah, sorry". I was with my Ex at the time, so i was taken. Talk about bad timing! It could have been hot....

I once listened to a radio show called "first date follow-up" where a man and a woman met at the grocery store then had a mini-date in the guys car (or maybe the woman's, not sure). They didnt have sex but the guy wanted a second date so he contacted the radio station. I think he got a second date, cant remember :strokebeard:

I think love and attraction can happen anywhere, two people just have to be in the right mindset at the same time.


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Re: Women talk to me about their pain then fuck other guys [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #28315008 - 05/10/23 10:43 PM (8 months, 14 days ago)

And the chances of those people being of the same mindset sounds a lot less likely than any other place at the grocery store.

People ought not to be falling for love bombing either where the compliments don't stop and the fawning is over the top.

Or atleast aware, but hey some people enjoy it, unfortunately some take it seriously too..


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Re: Women talk to me about their pain then fuck other guys [Re: LogicaL Chaos] * 1
    #28315482 - 05/11/23 09:27 AM (8 months, 14 days ago)

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I almost got a woman's number at the grocery store. I was at the entrance and she was leaving, i was entering the store and she gave me a very seductive look. She asked me "Hey, do you have a girlfriend?". I replied "Yeah, sorry". I was with my Ex at the time, so i was taken. Talk about bad timing! It could have been hot....

I once listened to a radio show called "first date follow-up" where a man and a woman met at the grocery store then had a mini-date in the guys car (or maybe the woman's, not sure). They didnt have sex but the guy wanted a second date so he contacted the radio station. I think he got a second date, cant remember :strokebeard:

I think love and attraction can happen anywhere, two people just have to be in the right mindset at the same time.




Yeah basically. I met a guy on Omegle and we dated. Of all the places...


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Re: Women talk to me about their pain then fuck other guys [Re: sudly]
    #28315718 - 05/11/23 12:11 PM (8 months, 14 days ago)

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Positive looks at the grocery store? That's a low standard man.

Why not just approach any pretty person you see on the street or in any store if that's the go.

Just sounds cringy to me.

At a party, event or group of some sort, sure I think it's good to approach people and it's good to be able to face and handle rejection.

But the not the damn grocery store!
:1234go:





Lots of people have met their partners at the grocery store.
You seem to be overthinking all of this.
Human connections can happen anywhere.
The only thing that sounds cringey to me right now is you.
You seem to be limiting yourself. 
Your loss, bruh.  :shrug:


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    #28315857 - 05/11/23 02:09 PM (8 months, 14 days ago)

I like to meet women with similar interests, and a lustful look at the grocery store generally doesn't cover that.

Not saying it will never happen, but that there are better places to approach people.


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Re: Women talk to me about their pain then fuck other guys [Re: sudly]
    #28316076 - 05/11/23 04:48 PM (8 months, 14 days ago)

:shrug:

Reason I brought up the wine aisle on a Tuesday is because that's where I had the best results back when I did this sort of thing. Bars and clubs Id be like, 1 in 12, 1 in 15. Meetup groups and hobbies were like 1 in 6-8, but the wine aisle on a Tuesday I was batting like 1 in 3 or 1 in 2. Consistently the easiest way to get laid, in my experience.


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Re: Women talk to me about their pain then fuck other guys [Re: Kryptos] * 1
    #28316319 - 05/11/23 07:54 PM (8 months, 13 days ago)

Tell us a story of the wine isle pickup if you would! :toast:


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Re: Women talk to me about their pain then fuck other guys [Re: sudly]
    #28316484 - 05/11/23 10:05 PM (8 months, 13 days ago)

Went and checked out apartments and the new work place today.
Going to be working for and around some of the biggest companies in the world and it was honestly underwhelming.  I thought i was going to be intimidated. 

Very motivating though. 

After getting mean mugged in the town of one of the cheaper apartments I am going to be splurging on the luxury place close by my work. 

There's a running joke between me and my friends that I am going to meet the angelic blonde girl of my dreams when I move. Well I saw one who was exactly that.  Only woman who caught my eye all day. 

Also fuck the grocery store pick up slander it definitely has potential


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    #28316539 - 05/11/23 10:47 PM (8 months, 13 days ago)

Sounds like you're doin' well.  Get it.
I'm probably gonna get a new place when my lease is up.


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    #28316543 - 05/11/23 10:51 PM (8 months, 13 days ago)

I had a friend that would go to pubs and ask tables of what he considered milfs who'd like to bang, and 1 in 10 went with.  He didn't give a hoot about rejection and played the numbers game. If the grocery store is your field then have at it I spose.


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Re: Women talk to me about their pain then fuck other guys [Re: sudly]
    #28316553 - 05/11/23 11:08 PM (8 months, 13 days ago)

The older women are always more grateful


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    #28316614 - 05/12/23 12:54 AM (8 months, 13 days ago)

Ha! Some older women are definitely more down to get naughty with strangers. If u can handle rejection, you're basically an Emotional Super Hero. A gift if u will.


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    #28316766 - 05/12/23 05:36 AM (8 months, 13 days ago)

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    #28319614 - 05/14/23 02:41 PM (8 months, 11 days ago)

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i didnt approach or nor would i tell a girl I want to have sex with her

I just thought she was pretty

and if you are never going to see the girl if u don't approach or rejects who cares

I have received enough positive looks at the grocery store over the years




I get really uncomfortable when men are that forward with me.
I got a text the other day from a guy telling me he wants to fuck the shit out of me blah blah blah..
It feels aggressive when Im not in an intimate relationship with them. I personally feel super awkward.
Kudos to you for not being that forward.
I have had men ask me if I want just a physical relationship and that was not awkward.
I get why you wouldn't want to say it. It is kinda uncomfortable.


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Re: Women talk to me about their pain then fuck other guys [Re: loladoreen]
    #28320049 - 05/15/23 12:45 AM (8 months, 10 days ago)

A lot of guys dont know about social boundaries or how to "seduce" a woman who likes to be courted. It was lost in translation somewhere.....


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    #28320404 - 05/15/23 09:57 AM (8 months, 10 days ago)

Things changed and became FWB and one night stands. Which is ok also.
Things definitely changed.


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    #28321236 - 05/15/23 11:51 PM (8 months, 9 days ago)

Never been in love my mind has me wondering how it feels

There is some fear there as few things in life have made me feel as intense of emotions as women and relationships


I am generally unimpressed by both women and men irl as of late

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    #28321724 - 05/16/23 09:28 AM (8 months, 9 days ago)

Never been in love?
I can understand the fear.
You looking forward to the move?


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    #28322681 - 05/17/23 01:18 AM (8 months, 8 days ago)

Signed a lease today.  Very excited.  New state with less taxes and a big city. 

Maybe I'll find love or some flings

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    #28323549 - 05/17/23 04:17 PM (8 months, 8 days ago)

That's exciting!!!!
Are you still in the same area as where you lived before or a different part of the US?


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    #28335071 - 05/26/23 05:52 AM (7 months, 30 days ago)

same coast, different state

Lower income taxes and general cost of living which is nice. 

have been looking at furniture and room design and its exciting and overwhelming.  i currently live in a studio and the only possessions I am taking are  my desk and a bed some other tech and my bike.  Here I will have more space with a living room.  After being fairly minimalist for many years I am going to make some larger purchases.  I get a sweet signing bonus. 
Thinking about an eight sleep bed, nice couch, eames lounge chair and ottoman replica because I am not paying 7k for an authentic one, and a nice coffee table. 
Will need some art to decorate as well. 

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    #28336855 - 05/27/23 11:38 AM (7 months, 29 days ago)

What is "eight sleep bed"?
I only have a couch, bed, and two desks (one for work computer and one for personal computer).
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I am excited for you!!!


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