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Re: Women talk to me about their pain then fuck other guys [Re: thelanzii]
    #28311585 - 05/08/23 03:10 PM (8 months, 17 days ago)

Interesting video.
I think porn is different for men and women.
Not a bad video


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Re: Women talk to me about their pain then fuck other guys [Re: loladoreen]
    #28312113 - 05/09/23 12:53 AM (8 months, 16 days ago)

Thats nutz! The youth are evolving :mindblown:

Porn definitely has a brain-washing effect. It normalizes not-so-normal sex. My friend had it real bad. I had it pretty bad too at one point. Im glad i have better control over my porn urges in my 30's. It really helps to keep a more sexually-normal and helps me avoid visual desensitization.


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Re: Women talk to me about their pain then fuck other guys [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #28312236 - 05/09/23 05:50 AM (8 months, 16 days ago)

I don't buy the porn brain premise. It becomes a problem when it interferes with your life, but if it's not doing that, then go ahead and watch what you'd like. Those urges don't arise from porn, they're deeper in the psychology of a person. I rather have a pedophile watch porn and never touch a kid then attempt to repress his urges, think he's "in control" and have those drives arise in other ways. Ideally he would get professional help, but the reality is more people have socially unacceptable kinks of one form or another, and the majority of people are not getting professional help. So a dilemma...

Also, if you ejaculate once a day, you have a lower risk for prostate cancer. Not sure if that was already mentioned, but clearly "no fappers" are not right.


Finally, the irony of the video you posted by Denmo is that he has two separate rape/assault charges against him. And he's telling his followers that they shouldn't watch porn? This man himself is confused.


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Re: Women talk to me about their pain then fuck other guys [Re: Roflspammer] * 2
    #28312373 - 05/09/23 08:35 AM (8 months, 16 days ago)

Yeah, porn is not the problem, addiction to porn is a problem. The porn itself is fine, the addiction is not. If you're not calling your boss to say you'll be late again because you need to rub one out, then you have a problem. If IT is sending you email asking you what you're visiting at work then you have a problem. Fix the problem.

Not to say porn is great, porn is fundamentally sexual exploitation. Healthy, well adjusted people do not become porn stars.

But that video is dumb as fuck. And it is redpill shit.

People like denmo is why women carry pepper spray.


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Re: Women talk to me about their pain then fuck other guys [Re: Kryptos]
    #28312831 - 05/09/23 02:26 PM (8 months, 16 days ago)

Give more detail on your negative view of denmo

he seems funny and has approaches with women where they seem pretty happy he approached them

as far as porn, I don't have a problem with it to the extent its affecting the big areas of my life

but I feel like it makes my brain and enjoyment more dull


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Re: Women talk to me about their pain then fuck other guys [Re: thelanzii]
    #28312868 - 05/09/23 03:01 PM (8 months, 16 days ago)

You mean apart from the multiple rape allegations?

That's the magic of video editing. You see the one girl that's into it, not the dozen that were creeped out. Or sexually assaulted.

This is why I left the seduction community. Literally every single seduction coach/guru/whatever ends up with rape charges. RSD really opened my eyes to the harm that community brings. They all pivoted to "life coaching" disconnected from getting girls after all of the sexual assaults. Their members are also banned from entering a number of countries in Europe because...well, they'd fly to Europe and do that shit.

Again, the entire ideology of seduction is how to maximize the chances of getting your dick wet in any scenario you are in. Sometimes, that means coercive rape.

Thing is, there is some good advice in that community. There really is. It's just you're not gonna get it from the guy that has multiple sexual assault allegations against him, unless that is your intended outcome.

The other worst part, as described in an hbomberguy video from a while back, is that there really isn't a non-rapey equivalent community that can provide you with the skills you need to pick up women.


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Re: Women talk to me about their pain then fuck other guys [Re: Kryptos]
    #28312876 - 05/09/23 03:05 PM (8 months, 16 days ago)

jesus, wtf


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Re: Women talk to me about their pain then fuck other guys [Re: thelanzii]
    #28312883 - 05/09/23 03:09 PM (8 months, 16 days ago)

Yeah, he raped a chick in 2020 and then caught charges from another girl last November.

Actually, another point made by hbomberguy that I ran into myself, is that you will quickly get sick of random sex. Or become addicted to it. It becomes just like porn, except you lose the ability to form genuine connections with women. It's like when you're super afraid of texting a girl you like, but with dates. It becomes easier to go out and find some barfly than to plan a second date.

I became legitimately almost afraid of women I actually liked for more than it took to get my nut.


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Re: Women talk to me about their pain then fuck other guys [Re: Kryptos]
    #28312889 - 05/09/23 03:17 PM (8 months, 16 days ago)

well zooming out and taking him out of the conversation

how does one meet women if they do not approach them?

I saw a woman who was attractive and someone I wouldn't mind knowing at the grocery store the other day.  I did not approach because Im about to move.  Would it be so wrong for me to chat with her for 2 minutes and say I would like to get to know her?


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Re: Women talk to me about their pain then fuck other guys [Re: thelanzii]
    #28312902 - 05/09/23 03:25 PM (8 months, 16 days ago)

No, not at all. If I see a cute girl in the wine aisle on a weekday, Imma go say hi.

It's kinda hard to explain, so I might need to rethink/rewrite this later.

I guess, the question is why are you making the approach?

On the one hand, if you're gonna have a genuine interaction with another human being without any expectations, then awesome. Go for it.

But on the other hand, the fact that your upcoming move stopped you tells me that you are going into this situation with a certain expectation. That is dangerous.

Further, as I've alluded to earlier, seduction has its own language, almost like a videogame. Their own lingo. You weren't about to approach, you were about to "open a set". That language quickly veers into dehumanizing.

Like, obviously attractiveness matters, right? But at the same time, you should be willing to have that exact same interaction with a woman you find actively unattractive. You don't have to take the interaction to your bedroom, but...you're not already planning out that night when you first walk up to a woman and say hi, right?


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Re: Women talk to me about their pain then fuck other guys [Re: thelanzii]
    #28312913 - 05/09/23 03:39 PM (8 months, 16 days ago)

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thelanzii said:
how does one meet women if they do not approach them?

I saw a woman who was attractive and someone I wouldn't mind knowing at the grocery store the other day.  I did not approach because Im about to move.  Would it be so wrong for me to chat with her for 2 minutes and say I would like to get to know her?





I have met a lot of women in person via online dating apps.
Regarding your scenario, sure, go say hi if you want.  If she says "hi" back and smiles then you probably can continue talking to her without being a creep.  If you find yourself having a nice and natural conversation then you could bring up the fact that you're only in town for a few more weeks or whatever, but you'd be interested to get to know her and maybe have some fun in that time, and see if she's interested.  If not, then say "have a good day" and walk away feeling like a winner because you tried.


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Re: Women talk to me about their pain then fuck other guys [Re: Kryptos]
    #28312917 - 05/09/23 03:41 PM (8 months, 16 days ago)

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I guess, the question is why are you making the approach?



I see what you're getting at with no expectations to be blunt she is someone who I would have most definitely enjoyed having sex with, she was well put together smelled nice and had a soft voice talking to her friend. 

She was probably in college because I currently live in a massive college town and that is a deterrent as well as being about to move.

Why is it dangerous to approach with the intent of a woman being a potential partner?  with proper wording, I am sure she would get the vibe that I am not trying to be friends


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Re: Women talk to me about their pain then fuck other guys [Re: thelanzii]
    #28312928 - 05/09/23 03:50 PM (8 months, 16 days ago)

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Why is it dangerous to approach with the intent of a woman being a potential partner?




Well, for one thing, damn that's some low standards. Why not approach her with the intent of seeing if she's an interesting person, before you start adding partners to the mix?

Kinda falls into the everything in moderation trap, too. A lot of these things are okay, but as you keep doing them more and more, they become less okay, and they will affect how your interactions go.

An old exercise I remember doing back in the day, was all about sexualizing conversations. Which is kind of required to, ya know, lead to sexual situations. Obviously. The exercise was to pick an inanimate object, and then add "having sex with me is like [object] because..." and fill in the blank. For example: having sex with me is like a chair, because you're gonna be sitting on some hard wood soon.

Except then you start slipping those things into situations that should not be sexualized.



I think it was that video, but It's been a while and I don't wanna watch half an hour to make sure it's the right one. I recall it being about an hour long, though, so perhaps this one has been edited down?


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Re: Women talk to me about their pain then fuck other guys [Re: thelanzii]
    #28312967 - 05/09/23 04:29 PM (8 months, 16 days ago)

Interesting turn on the conversation.


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Re: Women talk to me about their pain then fuck other guys [Re: Kryptos]
    #28312980 - 05/09/23 04:40 PM (8 months, 16 days ago)

well i have wanted to have sex with women I didn't exactly find fully interesting, that's partially how this thread started

I do see your point and appreciate the insight


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Re: Women talk to me about their pain then fuck other guys [Re: thelanzii]
    #28312982 - 05/09/23 04:42 PM (8 months, 16 days ago)

I wasn't being sarcastic. I find it all interesting. Very.


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Re: Women talk to me about their pain then fuck other guys [Re: loladoreen]
    #28313154 - 05/09/23 06:26 PM (8 months, 16 days ago)

Community groups and volunteering or hobby groups can be good for meeting like minded individuals.

The 'art of seduction' sounds like a lesson in how to build a fake persona to convince a woman to sleep with you after a short time, more like a one night stand gig.

But for long term or fwb I think the approach can easily become abusive.

The blunt approach in the store would probably scream of desperation.

Its also pretty obvious to a lot of people when a guy is trying to sexualise the situation.

I mean, if you're not actually interested the the woman for more than sex, the one night stand approach or art of seduction seem good enough because it doesn't really matter how you come off in the end.

But for anything more than once.. Got to hear examples of how that worked out :shrug:

Some people do meet for booty calls alone with no real companionship, and that works for some, but isn't a personal preference.


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Re: Women talk to me about their pain then fuck other guys [Re: sudly]
    #28313886 - 05/10/23 08:09 AM (8 months, 15 days ago)

Quote:

sudly said:

The 'art of seduction' sounds like a lesson in how to build a fake persona to convince a woman to sleep with you after a short time, more like a one night stand gig.




I held many misconceptions about seduction until I learned more about it.  It's not manipulation or being fake.  It's the opposite - it's how to be authentic.  Some aspects of seduction overlap with the famous "Law of Attraction".

I've used some aspects of seduction to initiate meaningful discussions and form new friendships.  Seduction isn't necessarily about sex.  I've even used some of these ideas to entertain children with some of my magic tricks and clowning.  Being authentic while lacking fear doesn't come naturally to many people.

A lot of aspects of seduction are focused on the skills of holding a good conversation.  Many millions of males lack the skills of talking to women, and it is getting worse.  Many males are so clueless about interacting with women they don't even try.

These days I've heard some women say they don't want to have any type of relationship with males because they see no benefits to it.  Wow - that's a big shift.


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Re: Women talk to me about their pain then fuck other guys [Re: RJ Tubs 202]
    #28314253 - 05/10/23 12:27 PM (8 months, 15 days ago)

:amusedapplause:
100%
Manipulation used for seduction is very rapey to me


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Re: Women talk to me about their pain then fuck other guys [Re: loladoreen]
    #28314278 - 05/10/23 12:47 PM (8 months, 15 days ago)

For sure.
Guys just need to chill out and not overthink it when it comes to this stuff.
Just be a good mannered, considerate dude and don't force anything, it should be natural and good.
You'll know if things are going well because she will look at you a lot and smile and engage in conversation.


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