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    #28265239 - 04/06/23 01:08 PM (9 months, 18 days ago)

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Re: Women talk to me about their pain then fuck other guys [Re: thelanzii] * 4
    #28265279 - 04/06/23 01:29 PM (9 months, 18 days ago)

Are you making it clear up front that by participating in this conversation, you expect the women to then have sex with you afterwards?

Or are you just salty that they are not reading your mind, in which you seem to expect a certain reciprocation of a sexual nature?

Further, do you think these women would feel comfortable participating in such conversation were you to actually tell them that you expect payment in the form of pussy?

I'll be honest man, this is like textbook incel 101 shit. Don't try to sneak your way into a woman's pants.


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Re: Women talk to me about their pain then fuck other guys [Re: Kryptos] * 1
    #28265324 - 04/06/23 01:42 PM (9 months, 18 days ago)

Yeah this is misaligned wanting. Imagine if psychotherapists slept with their patients... it's illegal for a reason. What you're experiencing is a privilege and goes beyond sexuality-- it's basic human connection which is deeply intimate. Wanting to bang the person who you're talking with means you should either ask them out or accept that you are not dating them and that they are instead a human looking to share their experience in safety and confidence.


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Re: Women talk to me about their pain then fuck other guys [Re: Kryptos]
    #28265372 - 04/06/23 02:25 PM (9 months, 18 days ago)

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Re: Women talk to me about their pain then fuck other guys [Re: Kryptos]
    #28265375 - 04/06/23 02:27 PM (9 months, 18 days ago)

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Re: Women talk to me about their pain then fuck other guys [Re: thelanzii] * 1
    #28265400 - 04/06/23 02:41 PM (9 months, 18 days ago)

Ive been in a similar situation. I think some women like to seperate their "therapist friend" from their "lust friends". Its sorta like being "friend-zoned" but a bit different since she still flirts and sends u nude photos. But a similar concept.


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Re: Women talk to me about their pain then fuck other guys [Re: LogicaL Chaos] * 1
    #28265586 - 04/06/23 04:06 PM (9 months, 18 days ago)

If she sends you nudes why not just invite her over to your house, ask her if she would like to escalate things to friends who talk about everything naked?


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Re: Women talk to me about their pain then fuck other guys [Re: Anonymous #1] * 2
    #28265591 - 04/06/23 04:08 PM (9 months, 18 days ago)

I think some women want to have no strings attached sex because strings are painful; you probably fit more as a boyfriend in her world than as a fun guy. If you want to have fun you have to be fun. You could also show her that you can talk about serious things AND have fun!


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Re: Women talk to me about their pain then fuck other guys [Re: thelanzii] * 4
    #28265679 - 04/06/23 04:47 PM (9 months, 18 days ago)

I thought about this. I have done this to men. The conversations need to be more then just that.
If I only discussed my emotional pain with someone, I lose attraction for them if that is all it is. I see them as a person safe to discuss my emotional pain with.
It needs to be more.


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Re: Women talk to me about their pain then fuck other guys [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #28265684 - 04/06/23 04:50 PM (9 months, 18 days ago)

She might just not be into you.

I'm sure you've met women whose company you enjoyed, but whom you did not find sexually attractive?

Suck bro, I know. Live and learn. Go meet more women.


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Re: Women talk to me about their pain then fuck other guys [Re: Kryptos] * 1
    #28265750 - 04/06/23 05:30 PM (9 months, 18 days ago)

I think we need to see the nudes to really figure out how to help.:snoopyes:


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Re: Women talk to me about their pain then fuck other guys [Re: CapSlinger] * 1
    #28266755 - 04/07/23 11:10 AM (9 months, 17 days ago)

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Re: Women talk to me about their pain then fuck other guys [Re: thelanzii] * 1
    #28266819 - 04/07/23 11:54 AM (9 months, 17 days ago)

I have found that in this fucked societal/sexual existence, that women, nowadays, tend to view sex as a more casual experience in many cases. And many will purposely avoid meaningful sex and opt for casual, for, what I'm sure, Is a variety of reasons.

They also crave emotional connection IF they are comfortable and can be allowed to be vulnerable enough.

Thus chick felt comfy and able to be vulnerable with you, and shared, her most hurtful moments, with that trust in mind.

This shows you are a decent human and worthy of love.

But on the side of the woman there may be many reasons why, for the simplicity of her orgasm, with this guy is a more facilitative experience. Separating the emotion from the act of sex seems to be a product of the bastardzation of commodifying sex to the degree we have.

Many women bc of past or future or whatever may find it difficult to bring the two together without a good deal of fear and confusion.

I think this is likely your experience


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Re: Women talk to me about their pain then fuck other guys [Re: loladoreen] * 2
    #28272355 - 04/11/23 07:14 AM (9 months, 13 days ago)

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If I only discussed my emotional pain with someone, I lose attraction for them if that is all it is. I see them as a person safe to discuss my emotional pain with.  It needs to be more.




It's difficult (maybe impossible?) to engage in romance and seduction in such a scenario.  The art of charming a woman often involves the creative use of words that intoxicates her mind, stimulates fantasies, and titillates her senses.  Heavy duty emotional sharing can hinder these things.  Talking about emotional pain can be very meaningful and helpful, but I suspect it's mostly incompatible with cultivating the romantic interest of courtship.


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Re: Women talk to me about their pain then fuck other guys [Re: RJ Tubs 202] * 1
    #28273164 - 04/11/23 04:37 PM (9 months, 13 days ago)

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loladoreen said:

If I only discussed my emotional pain with someone, I lose attraction for them if that is all it is. I see them as a person safe to discuss my emotional pain with.  It needs to be more.




It's difficult (maybe impossible?) to engage in romance and seduction in such a scenario.  The art of charming a woman often involves the creative use of words that intoxicates her mind, stimulates fantasies, and titillates her senses.  Heavy duty emotional sharing can hinder these things.  Talking about emotional pain can be very meaningful and helpful, but I suspect it's mostly incompatible with cultivating the romantic interest of courtship.





Agreed, deep emotional sharing comes into the relationship(or should) at a much later time. Not when trying to date/fall in love/screw. It is best and important and reasonable to share, when the relationship has grown to provide security ND understanding, as the norm.
Both sides are really too tender to do this early on.
*usually we present our best selves for the other at the time of courtship.. relationships well developed are forlorn of that luxury


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Re: Women talk to me about their pain then fuck other guys [Re: thelanzii] * 2
    #28273855 - 04/12/23 03:47 AM (9 months, 12 days ago)

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As the title reads multiple times in my life I have had conversations with women about their past pain, hardships and trauma.  We connect on a level because I can relate with my own past of losing a sibling.  The frustrating part of this is we have these real meaningful conversations and then the shallow dude is the one who is the one who has sex with her. 





Not gonna read the rest of the thread cause I can roughly expect what it'll be like, so let me give you just this piece of advice: You don't fuck girls who come to you to work through issues, you fuck the girls you ask them to bring to you. Deep emotional labor NEVER gets followed by sex barring differentials in station (i.e you being older or a therapist/mentor/teacher) as it relegates you to the position of brother and most people tend to be averse to incest.

Connect with her. Help her out. Get over her and get with one of her friends. She might not feel thankful enough to have sex with you (and, quite frankly, "thank you" sex is really just that and never a foundation for a relationship) but she will almost definitively feel thankful enough to help you get with someone she knows. The dating market is like the job market -- The best offers are obtained through referral. So don't fret. You've already created a valuable opportunity for yourself, and since you're into her and people tend to congregate around people that are like them it's very likely you'll find no issue with being into whoever she ends up recommending.

PS: Considering the other guy "shallow" is rather unproductive and judgemental an attitude to have. It might be true -- I know him about as much as you do, really -- but just in terms of what type of mentality pushes you forward and into more powerful modes of believing and doing it's a genuinely self-destructive way of seeing the world.

What it comes down to is how much you'll be capable of affecting reality. Believing you're being held back on all sides by the dull and dimwitted will end up making it so (and piss everyone off in the process because humans have evolved a VERY keen sense for contempt).





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Re: Women talk to me about their pain then fuck other guys [Re: towndaze] * 1
    #28275194 - 04/12/23 11:05 PM (9 months, 11 days ago)

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Re: Women talk to me about their pain then fuck other guys [Re: thelanzii] * 2
    #28275308 - 04/13/23 02:40 AM (9 months, 11 days ago)

Here you go bro... This is what is happening...



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Re: Women talk to me about their pain then fuck other guys [Re: thelanzii]
    #28282984 - 04/18/23 12:33 AM (9 months, 6 days ago)

I used to be frigid, but then I took a hoe to the heart.


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Re: Women talk to me about their pain then fuck other guys [Re: sudly]
    #28287447 - 04/20/23 10:05 PM (9 months, 3 days ago)

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