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Re: Salvia Recognita cultivation and experiences [Re: Mental Slavery] * 1
    #28607754 - 01/02/24 09:35 PM (25 days, 2 hours ago)

I know this thread is very very old. But for the sake for this species of salvia im going to comment. I grow lots of ethnobotanicals . especially ones that fuck you up.




Salvia recognita came to my attention from I think a random science direct peer reviewed journal that i read while looking for salvinorin a extraction stuff.




So naturally I bought seeds.

This is my experience from growing them in my zone 8b temperate area of the USA.





It doesnt like wet. So a high spot outside is good. It likes sandy soils loamy even. I give it almost what I call trash dirt. Leaves mixed with sand and perlite left over from shroom grows mixed with a little bit of whatever potted soil I have around .






It likes sun. It doesn't like too much rain or water. I swear it's almost a cactus . but you can tell when it's too dry ..it rains a lot here so i just keep the soil as best as free draining as possible and that works.
i water it less than my others naturally .

It grows slow as fuck .





Like slower than p. Viridis slow. So you will need a lot of plants to get material . personally i found salvia glutinousa to be far faster. Like on a scale of 200 times faster. Even if it's 40 grams/1 gram of salvia divinorum ( I think ) for equal potency I'll take it bc it's practically a weed and spreads like crazy .

Loves wet and loves shade. But we re not talking about that.






Recognita seeds I put in a food tray in Dec. And it has a spraying of tap water to make it humid and wet but not sloppy wet on a sand substrait . Like I just toss 50 seeds on top of the sand and cover with the lid.






By spring in a half shade half sun all day setting they have popped all about 80 percent by spring. I keep the seeds in the freezer bc they have to be cold stratified .







I sorta baby nurse them out of the trays and into peat pots or some other bio degradable pot by spring bc they don't like the roots desturbed.

They have a long tap root. No wonder they dont like wet .


I've tried lots of different ways to sprout them and found this works best. Nicking the seeds doesn't work for me though others have said they have good results and even not even stratification as well but my way works best for me.







others say they have had easy success in high numbers . others say they get sprouts by just planting but most say they don't get many to pop. I've tried hot water shocking nicking seeds etc . the food tray method for me gets the most numbers of living sprouts.

Plus they transfer easy too ime.


ive been gardening for 27 years and a master gardener for 10 plus of that . so ....i know ok.cheers.







Also when i transplant them to peat pods i put a zip lock bag over them and mist and leave the zip lock open a crack and let them slowly acclimate to low humidity over a month approx in a sunny ish window .


I have never extracted or smoked mine but i have read a few reports of people smoking the leaves and saying that there was an effect .


Like a dreamy weak pot like high . def something there. Makes sense to me. Just needs to be concentrated imo.






Obviously not as strong as smoking just salvia divinorum leaves on their own but one report did say that the leaves were pleasurable and had an exotic salvia alpina (sp) smell and taste which in my opinion is what the leaves sorta look and smell like .



Anyway i know that this is an old post but i see very little in the E. g. Forum for salvia recognita posts and felt the thread may garner some more experience posts if i added a little cultivation knowledge . cheers


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Salvia Recognita cultivation and experiences
    #28264587 - 04/06/23 04:12 AM (9 months, 17 days ago)

Last year I planted some salvia recognita seeds and now have 3 young plants growing in my garden. From what I understand it has been found to contain low but significant amounts of salvinorin A (200ug per gram of dried plant material vs 3mg for Salvia Divinorum). The low amounts don’t really bother me as I’d like to chew the leaves for a mild experience rather than an inter-dimensional mind fuck like smoking Salvia D extract back in the day was, so I was wondering if anyone else was cultivating it at the moment or had any experience with this particular plant?


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Re: Salvia Recognita cultivation and experiences [Re: The-Royal-Scam]
    #28265259 - 04/06/23 01:20 PM (9 months, 17 days ago)

Im not growing any, but Im interested to see how it goes for you. Would also be interested in some pictures. Do you know if cultivating this plant is similar to growing sally d?

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I’d like to chew the leaves for a mild experience rather than an inter-dimensional mind fuck like smoking Salvia D extract back in the day




Im sure you know this, but couldnt this also be done with standard salvia divinorum? That is what Im growing it for at least


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Re: Salvia Recognita cultivation and experiences [Re: The-Royal-Scam]
    #28266288 - 04/07/23 03:00 AM (9 months, 16 days ago)

I've read recognita really really hates wet feet,
overall to moist seems to be no good.


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Re: Salvia Recognita cultivation and experiences [Re: Mental Slavery]
    #28273987 - 04/12/23 06:35 AM (9 months, 11 days ago)

I don’t have any pictures at but will grab some when I’m next outside. The growing conditions are quite different between the two, Salvia R is native to mountainous areas Turkey and seems to be doing just fine outside here in the UK, whereas I imagine Salvia D would have kicked the bucket if I’d planted it in my garden as soon as autumn came round.

I could get the same effects I’m looking for from Saliva D, but it sounds a lot more fragile and harder to grow, and is far more expensive for single plants/cuttings compared to the pack of Salvia R seeds I bought last summer.

How have you found growing Salvia D? Would very much like to try at some point in the future.


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Re: Salvia Recognita cultivation and experiences [Re: fantanyl]
    #28273990 - 04/12/23 06:36 AM (9 months, 11 days ago)

That’s interesting, I kept two in small pots that didn’t really dry out over the winter and they seemed OK. I did add quite a bit of sand to the growing medium so that might have helped drainage wise.


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    #28274005 - 04/12/23 06:53 AM (9 months, 11 days ago)

Two of the ones I’ve planted out. First one spent the winter in a pot and seems to have put on a decent amount of growth since the start of March, while the second was planted in a raised bed last autumn.





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Re: Salvia Recognita cultivation and experiences [Re: The-Royal-Scam]
    #28274579 - 04/12/23 02:34 PM (9 months, 11 days ago)

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How have you found growing Salvia D? Would very much like to try at some point in the future.




I only just started growing it. Salvia D does seem a bit finicky and fragile. I grow it outdoors in Southern California, so I am not sure I will have good advice for you, as you would have to do an inside grow due to your climate


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