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rocky_raccoon
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Psilocybin for Long Covid
#28264545 - 04/06/23 02:31 AM (9 months, 18 days ago) |
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This has been going around my mind for some time now. My colleague at work caught covid over a year ago. She was vaccinated and didn't have severe symptoms but she lost her sense of taste and smell completely. It never came back so far and I would like to help her. There are anecdotes of recovery by using psychedelics and it kind of makes sense to try to rewire your brain and increase connectivity. I could provide her with some cubes but I'm not sure if she would try them. Are there any experiences about treating covid related issues with psilocybin (intentionally or not)?
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Edited by rocky_raccoon (04/06/23 02:39 AM)
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Yahra
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I don't think that would work.
Psychedelic drugs are medicine for the mind, not for the body.
I think she rather should see a doctor.
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Re: Psilocybin for Long Covid [Re: Yahra]
#28264563 - 04/06/23 03:11 AM (9 months, 18 days ago) |
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Long covid is mass hysteria bs, cover for chronic drug or alcohol problems, or plain and simple technoboredom.
There's no reason why mushrooms can't be the perfect cure for a psychosomatic illness.
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Long Covid or Post-Vac are real, not psychosomatic.
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rocky_raccoon
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Yahra said: I don't think that would work.
Psychedelic drugs are medicine for the mind, not for the body.
I think she rather should see a doctor.
She did of course. But conventional medicine doesn't have an answer so far. Since Psilocybin has antiinflammatory effects and can relieve neurological disorders I thought it might work.
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jack_straw2208 said: Long covid is mass hysteria bs, cover for chronic drug or alcohol problems, or plain and simple technoboredom.
There's no reason why mushrooms can't be the perfect cure for a psychosomatic illness.
Sure, I'll tell my colleague she's just suffering from mass hysteria and she should snap out of it. Thanks a bunch!
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Edited by rocky_raccoon (04/06/23 03:39 AM)
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I don't have first hand experience nor I am aware of any studies. Having said that, I remember seeing a couple of posts here in the shroomery where some people reported improvement from their symptoms after tripping. Were they trolling or were they being truthful? I don't know. Given the anti-inflammatory properties and the effects on neuroplasticity, one could say that there is a possibility mushrooms could help. But we don't know. We can only experiment and see what happens. With this I want to say that we should be careful at suggesting this could be a cure. I have no problem experimenting with myself, but it is another issue suggesting someone else to experiment.
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rocky_raccoon said: ... I'm not sure if she would try them.
I think this is important to take into account. You could talk to your friend about mushrooms but you can't even suggest they would be a cure. As long as your friend is open minded and not totally opposed to the use of illegal substances it is more or less safe to discuss this. In the end, it should be her decision to approach this as an experiment, without other expectations beyond experimentation.
I keep my use of mushrooms secret. Only two people know I have used them. The reason is their legality. With every new person knowing my use of these substances, the risk of being caught increases. I wish you and your friend the best. Pay no attention to trolls and people who subscribe to conspiracies.
Edited by VP123 (04/06/23 06:51 AM)
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Re: Psilocybin for Long Covid [Re: VP123]
#28264745 - 04/06/23 07:42 AM (9 months, 18 days ago) |
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VP123 said: I think this is important to take into account. You could talk to your friend about mushrooms but you can't even suggest they would be a cure. As long as your friend is open minded and not totally opposed to the use of illegal substances it is more or less safe to discuss this. In the end, it should be her decision to approach this as an experiment, without other expectations beyond experimentation.
I keep my use of mushrooms secret. Only two people know I have used them. The reason is their legality. With every new person knowing my use of these substances, the risk of being caught increases. I wish you and your friend the best. Pay no attention to trolls and people who subscribe to conspiracies.
Thanks a lot, VP 123, for sharing your perspective! I absolutely agree, it would be an experiment which isn't backed up by any sound data. Even there is growing evidence for effective treatment of depression and other conditions, one can't expect a single drug to heal all possible ailments.
I also try to avoid people knowing about my mushroom usage. I've told my partner and some close friends and they understand that I use them mainly for medical reasons. Still it is a risk to let people know. I have to think about it.
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Edited by rocky_raccoon (04/06/23 08:13 AM)
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I did a quick search and found this.
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/27746708
The original article is here
https://whyy.org/segments/could-magic-mushrooms-cure-covid-related-smell-loss/
I think it is safer to show your friend the article to peak her interest or gauge her reaction. Again, good luck my friend.
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Re: Psilocybin for Long Covid [Re: Yahra]
#28266219 - 04/07/23 12:03 AM (9 months, 17 days ago) |
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Yahra said: Long Covid or Post-Vac are real, not psychosomatic.
Oh okay, I rescind my statement.
Carry on.
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Sure, I'll tell my colleague she's just suffering from mass hysteria and she should snap out of it. Thanks a bunch! 
Jesus Christ man, don't do that, you have to play along with the delusional unless you actively want to alienate them.
I don't know if you guys remember 9/11 but governments stage disasters all the time.
The truth that no one wants to hear is: it's all conjecture, the powers that be created ambiguity and then stoke the fires so that the people in their charge are too busy fighting eachother over what can never be more than anyone's best guess, to notice how hard we are being fucked.
There are no facts here, the world is a stage, plain and simple.
They have weaponized our imaginations against us to sell bullshit insurance, it's all a big scam, and I am no less of an unwitting dupe than either of you.
Give your coworker mushrooms for her imaginary disease, maybe she'll let you suck her dick!
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Edited by jack_straw2208 (04/07/23 12:14 AM)
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I think you picked the wrong forum.
Please post bullshit here: Conspiracies and Cover-ups
Thanks!
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Re: Psilocybin for Long Covid [Re: Yahra]
#28266436 - 04/07/23 07:06 AM (9 months, 17 days ago) |
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rocky_raccoon
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Re: Psilocybin for Long Covid [Re: VP123]
#28266504 - 04/07/23 08:18 AM (9 months, 17 days ago) |
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VP123 said: I did a quick search and found this.
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/27746708
The original article is here
https://whyy.org/segments/could-magic-mushrooms-cure-covid-related-smell-loss/
I think it is safer to show your friend the article to peak her interest or gauge her reaction. Again, good luck my friend.
Thank you for the links, this is what I am looking for. This is probably the best approach, not indicating too much but giving her a hint and then see how she reacts. I've seen another article about LSD in the same context but still the evidence is meager. But the risks are also low so why not give it a try?
In any case I really appreciate the nice and helpful people around this forum. The others I will just ignore.
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jack_straw2208 said:
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Yahra said: Long Covid or Post-Vac are real, not psychosomatic.
Oh okay, I rescind my statement.
Carry on.
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Sure, I'll tell my colleague she's just suffering from mass hysteria and she should snap out of it. Thanks a bunch! 
Jesus Christ man, don't do that, you have to play along with the delusional unless you actively want to alienate them.
I don't know if you guys remember 9/11 but governments stage disasters all the time.
The truth that no one wants to hear is: it's all conjecture, the powers that be created ambiguity and then stoke the fires so that the people in their charge are too busy fighting eachother over what can never be more than anyone's best guess, to notice how hard we are being fucked.
There are no facts here, the world is a stage, plain and simple.
They have weaponized our imaginations against us to sell bullshit insurance, it's all a big scam, and I am no less of an unwitting dupe than either of you.
Give your coworker mushrooms for her imaginary disease, maybe she'll let you suck her dick!
most intelligent anti-vax take /s
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Re: Psilocybin for Long Covid [Re: Corundum]
#28268893 - 04/08/23 04:50 PM (9 months, 16 days ago) |
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I'm vaccinated. from where I stand today, it seems like this: The media is full of shit, so is your friend, so are you, but all of your shit put together doesn't even make up a tenth of the shit that I am full of.
I assure you my advice is sound and whether or not everyone that says they have long covid does or not, your coworker should take mushrooms if they want to. So should you. But only if you think it's a good idea.
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feeling the holy spirit are we? So if we tell her it's good for her and she then thinks it's good for her. Ultimately she should than take the mush. Your not factoring in the bodies buried in the basement(skeletons in the closet). Seems like something one wouldn't forget, but as they say so full of shit they can't recall their own lies.
covid isn't real also. it's probably just a simple flu and governments eugenicsing with anthrax. Like they could mass produce sars
Something tells me if you don't work for the gov and you were the 15% who said it was an inside job your considered a terrorist.
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Re: Psilocybin for Long Covid [Re: burntkitty]
#28269551 - 04/09/23 05:43 AM (9 months, 15 days ago) |
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From what I've read the cause of loss of smell and other symptoms of COVID are neurological. If this is truly the case shrooms just might be able to help.
At the very least your friend gets to eat some shrooms. If they go into it with no expectations there'll be no disappointments.
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jack_straw2208 said: Long covid is mass hysteria bs, cover for chronic drug or alcohol problems, or plain and simple technoboredom.
There's no reason why mushrooms can't be the perfect cure for a psychosomatic illness.
This AND many cases of vaccine injury. I knew someone vaxxed who tried to tell me covid gave her alopecia hair loss. An absurd notion but it could easily be a result of the jab as it's not as uncommon as one would think but cognitive dissonance makes people unable to realize this
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Re: Psilocybin for Long Covid [Re: burntkitty]
#28274071 - 04/12/23 07:47 AM (9 months, 12 days ago) |
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Well coronavirus IS real, we've been referring to this family of viruses as the common cold.
It's all like the Futurama episode of the future when everyone's terrified of the common cold.
99.97% survivable it never was a medical emergency
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jack_straw2208 said: Long covid is mass hysteria bs, cover for chronic drug or alcohol problems, or plain and simple technoboredom.
There's no reason why mushrooms can't be the perfect cure for a psychosomatic illness.
Long covid isn't bs..... I myself have it, and the amount of missed work, medical bills, pain and suffering, etc beg to differ.
It'll be decades before they really have a solid grasp on what exactly covid does to the human body....but at least it seems we know where to look - the spike proteins. Unfortunately, both the virus AND the vaccines produce them, also the vaccines to a much lesser extent under normal circumstances, I believe.
Many people lost the ability to work due to long covid, its a living nightmare. It has nothing to do with drug use.
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IMO most cases (though not all) of long covid are psychosomatic, in which case mushrooms would likely be highly effective at treating it.
For genuine cases, where people were hospitalized and put on a ventilator or unconscious, I think it doesn't hurt to try. Any improvement would be a benefit in that case.
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