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    #28256279 - 03/31/23 02:02 PM (9 months, 23 days ago)

So I've been reading back through time and trying to figure out if you can really make psychedelic honey with dry shrooms, or if all you are doing is storing your shrooms in honey. I mean, do the actives actually leech/dissolve into the honey given enough time? Is psilocybin even soluble in honey?


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Re: Shroom honey or just shrooms in honey? [Re: Northerner] * 1
    #28256495 - 03/31/23 04:16 PM (9 months, 23 days ago)



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Re: Shroom honey or just shrooms in honey? [Re: myc_ousin_vinny]
    #28256643 - 03/31/23 06:04 PM (9 months, 23 days ago)

Yeah I read that before posting. Did not answer my question.


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Re: Shroom honey or just shrooms in honey? [Re: Northerner] * 1
    #28256658 - 03/31/23 06:12 PM (9 months, 23 days ago)

Not sure about honey solubility, but.

Honey is  around 16% water.

psilocybin Is very soluble in water, so I would think it’s at least part shroom honey part shrooms in honey depending on the mix.


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Re: Shroom honey or just shrooms in honey? [Re: Pluviophile] * 1
    #28256824 - 03/31/23 08:32 PM (9 months, 23 days ago)

Thanks man, I had no idea honey had so much water.  :thumbup:

Gonna have a go, make some elixir.


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Re: Shroom honey or just shrooms in honey? [Re: Northerner] * 9
    #28257060 - 04/01/23 03:40 AM (9 months, 22 days ago)

50g in a jar topped up. Will run it through a few series of heat baths and let it soak a good long while. See if it's worth it.



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Re: Shroom honey or just shrooms in honey? [Re: Northerner]
    #28257148 - 04/01/23 06:06 AM (9 months, 22 days ago)

Noice, phat jar.:awesomenod:

Always heard it touted as being a combination of the water content doing the extracting and some anti-microbial action from the honey doing the preserving.
So I'm looking forward to (potentially) finding out the answer to this once and for all!

(Blue honey related)
About 7 years ago, I put a bunch of ground cubes into some nice honey to save for my mates and I.
Somewhere down the line, I decided to munch the bluish-grey 'product' solo like a greedy little pig. :piggy:

Due to what I assume was an interpretation of my own guilt and negative emotions around my heinously selfish actions, I became quickly convinced on the comeup that I'd given myself botulism from improper storage of the honey :lol:
I only knew 2 symptoms and as such was waiting for them to manifest through a good portion of the trip...

SO refused to google further symptoms for me :blueangel:


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Re: Shroom honey or just shrooms in honey? [Re: Lithop]
    #28257181 - 04/01/23 07:14 AM (9 months, 22 days ago)

Enjoy your honey : ')

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Re: Shroom honey or just shrooms in honey? [Re: Purple sunset] * 1
    #28257535 - 04/01/23 11:42 AM (9 months, 22 days ago)

Looking forward to future updates.


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Re: Shroom honey or just shrooms in honey? [Re: Northerner]
    #28258035 - 04/01/23 05:56 PM (9 months, 22 days ago)

That looks interesting I do wonder how dosing will go though, I could see my friends sending themselves to a different dimension.


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Re: Shroom honey or just shrooms in honey? [Re: Kiwi89] * 1
    #28258044 - 04/01/23 06:10 PM (9 months, 22 days ago)

Honey last for a super long time years and years at room temp. Though I don't know with the shrooms. But also I'm sure I read somewhere honey has been used to preserve food stuff throughout history (Egyptians maybe)

Must be real honey not store bought shit.
My dad kept bees as a hobby. I ate Soo much honey as a kid. Unsupervised children get into sweets.


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Re: Shroom honey or just shrooms in honey? [Re: Abombs] * 1
    #28258050 - 04/01/23 06:13 PM (9 months, 22 days ago)

And I would imagine it is both shrooms in honey and shroom honey. The shrooms would probably be higher potentcy than the honey. But the honey would be pretty strong too. How does it taste?

I love honey but absolute hate(hmm need a stronger word) the taste of magic mushrooms.


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Re: Shroom honey or just shrooms in honey? [Re: Abombs] * 1
    #28258064 - 04/01/23 06:21 PM (9 months, 22 days ago)

I used to think this was a pretty cool idea, but I worry about having to figure out new dosage values. Whereas if it were dried/powdered mushroom, I know how much to take for what level of experience, but suspended in honey, I might have to bioassay them and hope it wasn't too much. Fully dried mushroom in airtight mason jars seem to last for a few years. I go so far as encapsulating them in gel caps then place those in a mason jar with a desiccant pack in a dark container. Has held up well the last few years.


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Re: Shroom honey or just shrooms in honey? [Re: Abombs]
    #28258065 - 04/01/23 06:21 PM (9 months, 22 days ago)

Honey has no shelf life, if you have it in a sealed container and the mushroom is soaked into it can last into the next millennium and be completely preserved. If you grind it up into a fine powder and then dump it into the container with honey.. Well dosing becomes pretty hard unless you just making one-shot jars.


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Re: Shroom honey or just shrooms in honey? [Re: Northerner]
    #28258928 - 04/02/23 10:10 AM (9 months, 21 days ago)

Pretty jar, Northerner.  I'll be interested in an update.  I've always wanted to try this. :mushroom2:


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Re: Shroom honey or just shrooms in honey? [Re: Dave Bowman]
    #28259208 - 04/02/23 01:54 PM (9 months, 21 days ago)

Even after a series of mild  heat baths it's starting to look different. I reckon the final product might look a little scary.The shrooms keep floating, but as they fill up and become more dense there's stuff being set free in the honey. I don't know if it's shroom dust or what the hell. Will give it a week or two and post an updated pic.


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Re: Shroom honey or just shrooms in honey? [Re: Northerner]
    #28259404 - 04/02/23 04:13 PM (9 months, 21 days ago)

Would adding pectin have any pros? Or would it just muddy things up?


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Re: Shroom honey or just shrooms in honey? [Re: a_stoned_sloth]
    #28259551 - 04/02/23 05:48 PM (9 months, 21 days ago)

What's your reason for thinking about that?


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Re: Shroom honey or just shrooms in honey? [Re: Northerner]
    #28259839 - 04/02/23 09:57 PM (9 months, 21 days ago)

Honey is perfect the way it is. No need to improve it. Except for the shrooms of course.!


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Re: Shroom honey or just shrooms in honey? [Re: Northerner] * 1
    #28259947 - 04/03/23 12:30 AM (9 months, 20 days ago)

I'm betting you'll end up with psychedelic honey. Interested to see.

Supposedly this is a decent way to preserve mushrooms, although I have no scientific evidence to back that up. Honey can be used as a medium in cultures of stuff so I imagine it wouldn't be a perfect preservative if the mushrooms were contaminated with anything, but I imagine you could still make some damn fine psychedelic honey this way. Looking forward to finding out.


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