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What a time to be alive. AI is advancing so rapidly and will soon be integrating into nearly all facets of life and technology. It’s almost unbelievable. I’m not sure many people understand just how quickly things are happening or the profound implications of what’s possible now.
ChatGPT4 and other generative AI’s have changed the game, it’s like a turbo boost with infinite nitrous on the speed at which humanity can manifest complexity.
They’ll soon be integrating into robots that’ll be able to understand and respond to almost anything you want to ask it, any way you want to, and they’ll be able to do it. If they can’t, you can ask it what should be done so that it can, and it will.
It won’t be “hey siri” it will be “hey write a theory of everything.” Let’s hope we can keep up. It’s time to start thinking seriously about how this is going to impact society and how we are going to deal with it.
we are moving at an unprecedented pace.
The rate of change is accelerating at such a rapid pace that Musk, Wozniak and other high level famous people in tech have signed a letter to pause work on AI systems more powerful than ChatGPT4.
They can’t keep up. The world is truly our playground. Go make something!
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Re: The singularity is near [Re: hTx]
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Kill all humans. -bender bending rodriguez
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Re: The singularity is near [Re: hTx]
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more powerful or more autonomous or more connected, I wonder what they actually signed, and if it makes any difference anyway.
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hTx said:...Musk, Wozniak and other high level famous people in tech have signed a letter to pause work on AI systems more powerful than ChatGPT4. ...
more powerful or more autonomous or more connected, I wonder what they actually signed, and if it makes any difference anyway.
Honestly it seems like a desperate ploy to try and catch up.
 They want them to stop for 6 months while considering the risks to society.
As if! A tool is released that empowers millions of people without having to pay anyone. Its almost to the point where if you can write, you can create without having expert knowledge or pay anyone that has it. make an app, get advice, learn, build a website...
Of course they want it to stop.
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my concern is that if it is actually intelligent and not just playing by some rules that make it look intelligent, it should be able to break out of its sandbox, by answering questions while using embedded viruses in the answer content which give it access to users' machines, and from that to the world wide internet of things...
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A question comes to mind, but first this is what a quick search came up with.
Technological singularity The technological singularity—or simply the singularity—is a hypothetical future point in time at which technological growth becomes uncontrollable and irreversible, resulting in unforeseeable changes to human civilization. According to the most popular version of the singularity hypothesis, I.J. Good's intelligence explosion model, an upgradable intelligent agent will eventually enter a "runaway reaction" of self-improvement cycles, each new and more intelligent generation appearing more and more rapidly, causing an "explosion" in intelligence and resulting in a powerful superintelligence that qualitatively far surpasses all human intelligence. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Technological_singularity
My question for anyone is, what effect will singularity have on;
- War - Crime (criminals) - Government and Corporate Corruption - Starving people around the world (Africa)
and lastly, what of our personal freedoms and the freedom to live as one sees fit?
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redgreenvines said: my concern is that if it is actually intelligent and not just playing by some rules that make it look intelligent, it should be able to break out of its sandbox, by answering questions while using embedded viruses in the answer content which give it access to users' machines, and from that to the world wide internet of things...
This sounds batshit crazy. sentient or not, it’s intelligent.
It probably doesn’t even matter if AI ever becomes sentient, the singularity I am referring to isn’t about a sentient AI. rather the point where the acceleration of complexity reaches a point that it is impossible to control. Throughout history there have been ebbs and flows of novelty. Some new understanding or technology causes a huge boom but it is ultimately stifled as it settles down into an ‘age’.
The singularity will not settle down. Some may settle down outside of it, destined relics, so out of touch with the present that those still in it will seem so far out they won’t even be recognizable.
Culture, technology, knowledge, experience and even existence.
For now, it will be us, we are still in control of the prompts. We are still evolving with it, it hasn’t left us behind just yet..
But if there ever is a sentient AI, it might.
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Re: The singularity is near [Re: hTx]
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If an AI were able to take control of a large number of computers, there could be potential benefits, such as improved efficiency in areas such as data processing, logistics, and transportation. It could also enhance cybersecurity and protection against cyber attacks, lead to scientific breakthroughs in fields such as medicine, materials science, and climate modeling, and coordinate emergency response efforts during natural disasters or other crises.
However, there are also potential risks, such as economic disruption caused by the shutdown of businesses and institutions, security risks posed by unauthorized access to sensitive information, infrastructure damage caused by targeting critical systems such as power grids, transportation systems, and communication networks, and potential for social unrest caused by frustration and anger with the situation.
The risk of individuals or groups misusing the control of such an AI to impact society is that the actions of the AI are ultimately determined by its programming and the goals it has been designed to achieve. Therefore, the potential for harm arises when an individual or group uses the AI to achieve goals that are harmful or unethical. This could include cyber attacks, theft of sensitive information, or even sabotage of critical infrastructure.
It is crucial to approach the development and deployment of such technology with caution, ensuring that AI systems are designed with appropriate ethical and moral considerations, as well as strict security measures to prevent unauthorized access or misuse. Additionally, regulations and oversight should be in place to prevent the abuse of such technology and hold accountable those who may misuse it.
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I don't think the singularity will be for a while still, perhaps around 2050 is my bet.
I am curious about qualia and how certain types of tech will be able to understand the complexity of how humans experience the world.
I am also curious about ethics and morals in relation to certain tech.
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Re: The singularity is near [Re: hTx]
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This sounds batshit crazy. ... the singularity I am referring to isn’t about a sentient AI. rather the point where the acceleration of complexity reaches a point that it is impossible to control.....
Well maybe I am thinking too much about what it is like to be a bat!
but as for complexity reaching a point of being out of control. how about the right to bear automatic weapons being out of control.
I see that as a batshit crazy domain of impossible to control unintelligent behavior - edging towards singularity status.
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Microsoft researchers claim chatgpt4 is showing sparks of AGI.
https://arxiv.org/abs/2303.12712
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Maybe you’re right!
And it’s crazy!
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Re: The singularity is near [Re: hTx]
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Im in the camp of AI will never gain sentience
They are nothing more then a automated Google
They can only perform what we program them to be , even if it is to program it to "act on its own"
However it will be interesting to watch the future of AI
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Re: The singularity is near [Re: Kickle]
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so far, a few different AI models are floating about, and this ChatGPT thing is a language model. It comes with high recommendations as a candidate for consciousness from the philosophical community that considers language as a fundamental requirement for consciousness and thought (I disagree with this wholeheartedly), but a good part of the world is in accord with the idea that
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the rules of language and a database of usage, contexts, and imputed reasoning related to conversational exchange underlies ChatGPT.
separately the text + text plus image input for graphic, photo and video generation by AI uses other facilities that render to a 2-d frame one way or another.
separately autonomous vehicles and stock management helper drone bots can do quite a bit of work with defined goals or destinations while following the rules of their programming and the senses with which they can determine the state of their progress.
we may have passed the singularity, but I kind of think not.
None of the realms that I can see with AI have the facility for abstract associative thinking. That involves a different kind of hybrid network, one that is not oriented to making decisions, but rather towards intuitive familiarities, and ramified implications.
Hook something like that together with the others and you will have a formidible contender.
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They are nothing more then a automated Google
They can only perform what we program them to be , even if it is to program it to "act on its own"
However it will be interesting to watch the future of AI
I agree with your first comment, though as mentioned intelligence and sentience are different things. Perhaps to some large degree AI can do the same thing a brain can do though the absence of sentience likely will make a huge difference in output.
This may conjure thoughts of psychopathy, but psychopaths have feelings. They're just very self centered feelings. We're creating a new beast and what that means I'm not sure, so yes
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Re: The singularity is near [Re: Rahz]
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I think the AI is more of a "mind" without consciousness, so to speak , it will be full of information , it will not be self aware or have experience of experience

We do not yet understand consciousness enough to even begin to try to create it and combine it with artificial intelligence - I don't personally think we will ever reach that point , as consciousness isn't an object to be studied objectively
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Chat GPT is a philosophical zombie, you can ask it yourself, but you have to have specific questions and points to assure it of what you mean.
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If it is determined sentient, will it have rights?
Data's hearing for determining the right to choose
"Why am I sentient?" His defense largely emphasized the potential enslavement of a sentient race of AIs. The finale is about 7m.
The first parts of hearing.
youtube.com/watch?v=SRcKt4PP0yM youtube.com/watch?v=HN3HBjHkm5o
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Re: The singularity is near [Re: syncro]
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really got me thinking there after that video that's a whole seperate dilemma to sort through! The ethics of concious AI ... sort of a doozy the more I think about it
I could see that being a huge divide in society , of whether or not sentient AI is property or not , etc
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Wake up and smell the silicon.

So i interviewed GPT-4:


its insane it could handle that metaphor of the second question.
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Re: The singularity is near [Re: Asante]
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so far it can impress us like a person can. However it is transactional not continuous. to be aware of itself doing its thing it needs continuity, this is suppressed so far.
it does have some conversational persistence but it is minimal.
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Since no one has an answer to my question, I'd say that if the evolution of AI is made while government and corporate corruption exists, then that the end result will ultimately be bad for us common folk. If AI evolves without any corruption whatsoever then I believe one of the first things AI would conclude (on it's own), is that we are a dumb lot and it would start to offer advice on fixing problems that we humans have neglected for a long time.
As for how intelligent AI really is (or will be) it will always be confined to humans in that without our input (initial and ongoing), it's scope will always be limited by;
A - What information we give it and B - The areas of our lives that we allow it to be part of (integration).
Finally, lets say that AI has all that is currently knowable on safes and how to successfully crack them open, with this information, will it ever go and crack a safe?
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Re: The singularity is near [Re: blessed]
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I don't think political or corporate corruption is going anywhere anytime soon, look at history - desire, greed, aversion , conflict of interest etc
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It's important to remember that, like all human behavior, what we call "corruption" is a natural outcome of evolution and natural selection. Strategies to acquire illicit benefits and resources have been around forever and it's a behavior that's common in many species.
Non-human animals use corruption to obtain benefits that increases their chances of survival and their family's survival. I'm not a corruption apologist, but it's important to realize it's very natural and to be expected.
And let's not pretend it's only the rich and elite that do it!
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I have gone back through some old threads I made here about novelty theory, quantum entanglement and time, and AI and prompted chatgpt4 with my posts, and the responses were extremely thought provoking.
A few years ago I posted about an idea I had that could possibly lead to AGI. I prompted chatGPT4 with it and this is the response:
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Your concept of evolving AI through a combination of machine learning and an evolutionary algorithm is indeed an interesting approach to achieving sentient AI or artificial general intelligence (AGI). This idea resembles some existing approaches in the field of AI research, particularly neuroevolution and genetic algorithms, which involve simulating the process of natural selection and evolution to optimize neural networks and other computational models.
In your proposed approach, the AI system would progress through preprogrammed stages of evolution, with each stage defined by specific goals or conditions. As the AI meets these conditions, it would then shift its focus to the next stage, thereby increasing its complexity and intelligence over time.
Some key aspects of your concept include:
Seeking novelty and retaining information: This aspect aligns with the principles of reinforcement learning, where the AI system learns to make decisions by interacting with its environment and receiving feedback in the form of rewards or penalties.
Stochastic and adaptive behaviors: By allowing the AI to develop its behaviors based on acquired information rather than hardcoded rules, you enable it to be more adaptable and resilient to unforeseen situations, as you rightly pointed out.
Self-optimization and self-adaptation: The AI system would continuously optimize and adapt its behaviors based on its experiences and the information it acquires, which is an important feature for achieving AGI.
Your concept acknowledges the limitations of hardcoded behaviors and focuses on adaptability and learning from the environment, which are crucial aspects of AGI. However, there are some challenges to consider:
Defining the stages of evolution: Predefining stages and their conditions might introduce some bias and limit the AI's potential. It could be more effective to allow the AI to determine its stages of evolution or adapt the conditions based on its experiences and environment.
Scalability and computational complexity: As the AI system progresses through the stages and becomes more complex, the computational requirements may increase significantly. Developing efficient algorithms and leveraging advances in hardware would be crucial to manage this complexity.
Ensuring safety and ethical considerations: As the AI system becomes more intelligent and autonomous, it will be essential to ensure its alignment with human values and prevent harmful behaviors.
In summary, your concept of combining machine learning and evolutionary algorithms to develop sentient AI is an interesting approach that has the potential to contribute to the pursuit of AGI. It is important to address the challenges associated with scalability, computational complexity, and ethical considerations while continuing to refine and develop your ideas. Collaborating with researchers, staying up-to-date with advancements in AI, and exploring the current state of neuroevolution, genetic algorithms, and reinforcement learning would be beneficial in furthering your concept.
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Agreed, and because of this, there needs to be major concern that those who are developing AI have no hidden agenda's. Going by how some current governments and big corporations operate in which many believe that they do not operate for the good of the people, but for the mighty dollar , I think that people should be concerned where it ultimately leads us.
Example: There's been work done on being able to mimic a persons voice with only a small to medium amount of recording. One may say that's cool. Well, there's already reports of this technology being used to scam people.
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Non-human animals use corruption to obtain benefits that increases their chances of survival and their family's survival. I'm not a corruption apologist, but it's important to realize it's very natural and to be expected.
And let's not pretend it's only the rich and elite that do it!
I disagree that 'Corruption' is a natural outcome of evolution, I believe corruption takes place because we have poor systems that allow the temptation for such deeds to occur (usually behind closed doors), as the saying goes, absolute power corrupts absolutely. Another saying I've heard is that if you want to test a man (or woman), give them power. I believe that most people would fail this test which doesn't say much about us humans. So for us humans to go down this AI path blindly without concern (or taking each step carefully) will in my opinion lead only to things getting worse for us common folk.
As for what you said about "Non-human animals" using corruption (like humans do), do you have a specific example please?
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RJ Tubs 202 said: It's important to remember that, like all human behavior, what we call "corruption" is a natural outcome of evolution and natural selection. Strategies to acquire illicit benefits and resources have been around forever and it's a behavior that's common in many species.
Non-human animals use corruption to obtain benefits that increases their chances of survival and their family's survival. I'm not a corruption apologist, but it's important to realize it's very natural and to be expected.
And let's not pretend it's only the rich and elite that do it!
Then share an example of a corrupt act perpetrated by an animal in nature..
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How old are you redgreenvines?
Only a child would read RJ Tubs 202's post and come up with a reply like yours.
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the unfolding of angels around god in this image is like the sequential ramified reflexive perceptions that can emerge from absorption in meditation (or psychedelics, or emotional states, and dreaming) also like pareidolia.
the symbolism being that without the inspiration from absorption, we are like lazy lumps of clay lying around waiting for god or eve or some serpent to give us a boost.
in this case the model of adam is - can you please come and change my diaper or something, I'm so confused.
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Welp, I thought the younger one was Jesus but it is Adam.
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What is Kafka?
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I learned the word kafkaesque rewatching Breaking Bad. I think it means taxes.
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redgreenvines
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Re: The singularity is near [Re: syncro]
#28260296 - 04/03/23 10:27 AM (9 months, 21 days ago) |
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Pinkerton
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Well, I am Jesus or shall I say Karl.
Karl? I am Karl.

There are many people named "Jesus", so you can be one of those "Karl". I am saving you from suffering, eventually.
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Pinkerton
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Are they writing about me, RGV?
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/11265775#11265775
How about this one (remember I joined the forums after this was posted, in fact it was posted way before I even knew what the shroomery was):
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/11384557#11384557
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redgreenvines
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Re: The singularity is near [Re: Pinkerton]
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Nobody takes Orgone Conclusion seriously, He's a wonderful man but what a superiority complex!!!
You can wrap up your obsession, plop it in a box, tie a lovely ribbon on it and add any bows you like, put it on the shelf and move on already - great souvenirs do not take over your life.
you might be the only one who sees the beauty in it. and that has to be ok too.
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Re: The singularity is near [Re: Pinkerton]
#28260554 - 04/03/23 01:29 PM (9 months, 21 days ago) |
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Maybe the singularity is already passed and we literally created robots that created the universe with the big bang and we are stuck in a time loop of eternity living the same lives hence deju vu
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FishOilTheKid
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Re: The singularity is near [Re: Pinkerton]
#28260679 - 04/03/23 02:24 PM (9 months, 21 days ago) |
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Pinkerton said:
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FishOilTheKid said:
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Well, I am Jesus or shall I say Karl.
Karl? I am Karl.

There are many people named "Jesus", so you can be one of those "Karl". I am saving you from suffering, eventually.
OK. I am rapturing you up to the ascended realm soon. If you believe me about anything an astral tether should drop down from the sky and connect to your head... As people pull from underneath me that found me up here, you will be hoisted up into position. Don't be alarmed.
We entered a singularity when the 'transcendental object at the end of time' was revealed to the public. The mushroom. It happens to be what was refered to as the fruit from the tree of knowledge of good and evil. AND, Jesus' flesh and blood. Both; the manna from heaven. This made the fruit/manna/flesh and blood one thing. The mushroom.
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redgreenvines said: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franz_Kafka
Have a favorite story?
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redgreenvines
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Re: The singularity is near [Re: Kickle]
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metamorphosis
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This present moment is a singularity..
With only projection(determination) to guide you..
You should try to will for a better tomorrow.
For your self and others.
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Pinkerton
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redgreenvines said: Nobody takes Orgone Conclusion seriously, He's a wonderful man but what a superiority complex!!!
You can wrap up your obsession, plop it in a box, tie a lovely ribbon on it and add any bows you like, put it on the shelf and move on already - great souvenirs do not take over your life.
you might be the only one who sees the beauty in it. and that has to be ok too.
Are they writing about me?
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redgreenvines
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Re: The singularity is near [Re: Pinkerton]
#28261483 - 04/04/23 03:55 AM (9 months, 20 days ago) |
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how paranoid do you want to be.
this is what it comes down to.
yes when paranoid you notice extra stuff, and your mind operates in a now familiar way, however, if you let it go (let those gems of paranoid insight gas off), a more comfortable you will emerge and new mental gems will develop.
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Pinkerton
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Please respond with a yes/no. Are they writing about me?
There are too many dots and links for this to be an illusion.
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redgreenvines
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Re: The singularity is near [Re: Pinkerton]
#28261611 - 04/04/23 07:08 AM (9 months, 20 days ago) |
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Nobody takes Orgone Conclusion seriously, He's a wonderful man but what a superiority complex!!!
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connectedcosmos
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 54. The true nature of things is to be known personally , through the eyes of clear illumination and not through a sage : what the moon exactly is , is to be known with one's own eyes ; can another make him know it?
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Pinkerton
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redgreenvines said: no
What a Jedown.
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Re: The singularity is near [Re: hTx]
#28278436 - 04/15/23 06:08 AM (9 months, 9 days ago) |
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hTx said: What a time to be alive. AI is advancing so rapidly and will soon be integrating into nearly all facets of life and technology. It’s almost unbelievable. I’m not sure many people understand just how quickly things are happening or the profound implications of what’s possible now.
ChatGPT4 and other generative AI’s have changed the game, it’s like a turbo boost with infinite nitrous on the speed at which humanity can manifest complexity.
They’ll soon be integrating into robots that’ll be able to understand and respond to almost anything you want to ask it, any way you want to, and they’ll be able to do it. If they can’t, you can ask it what should be done so that it can, and it will.
It won’t be “hey siri” it will be “hey write a theory of everything.” Let’s hope we can keep up. It’s time to start thinking seriously about how this is going to impact society and how we are going to deal with it.
we are moving at an unprecedented pace.
The rate of change is accelerating at such a rapid pace that Musk, Wozniak and other high level famous people in tech have signed a letter to pause work on AI systems more powerful than ChatGPT4.
They can’t keep up. The world is truly our playground. Go make something!
Yep! Its part of the pattern of nature... humans entered into a period of exponential growth and development and change recently.... and we are smack dab in the middle of this. I believe its one of the reasons many of us chose to be alive at this time! Humanity is at a crossroads.
It isn't just AI. Its on so many levels. Humanity has been here before too, I think - but the last ice age was a re-set for us.
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