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I think we should start with the ones currently breaking the law
I honestly don’t care anymore about what bush did 20 years ago. Obviously nothing is going to happen. Let’s focus on the shit that is happening now.
Complaining about a torture program three administrations ago seems like an lazy way to excuse crimes that are ongoing to this day
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koods said: More whataboutism. This has nothing to do with torture. People get away with murdering their wives, therefor you should be able to break any law you want. Your logic is totally fucked dude
Actually, my logic is perfectly sound.
I don't like presidents getting away with breaking the law.
People get away with murdering their wives, because there isn't evidence to prove they did it. We have the evidence that Bush approved a torture program. So, if we're going to start frying fish, we ought to start with the big ones.
Ya know, there is also the more important question of: was what Bush did illegal? That is not a settled question. DOJ, IG, and Bush's team all seemed to think that torture was above board, as long as it didn't happen on US soil.
Whereas Trump committed pretty cut and dry tax fraud and election finance fraud. There isn't really any question on their legality, there is no gray area like there is with overseas torture. It is openly criminal.
Unless your argument is that the law has less to do with what is written on the piece of paper and more to do with what you feel should be a crime, (a common republican argument re:homelessness) you're potentially accusing bush of a crime that he did not commit.
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koods said: I think we should start with the ones currently breaking the law
I honestly don’t care anymore about what bush did 20 years ago. Obviously nothing is going to happen. Let’s focus on the shit that is happening now.
Complaining about a torture program three administrations ago seems like an lazy way to excuse crimes that are ongoing to this day
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Bigbadwooof said: Bro!!!
Let me put this in perspective for you... You have two criminals: Criminal A committed tax fraud in 2022. Criminal B murdered and raped a child in 2002. Which one is a higher priority for law enforcement?
Get it?
No... The truth is you're more concerned with that hard-on you have for Donald Trump, than the actual crimes committed. It's fucking gross to excuse what Bush did just because some time has passed, but want to go after Trump for something so petty.
Some of us don't have such short memories, and some of us don't easily forgive something so horrible. When I talk about the torture program, I envision what it must have been like to be an innocent man, scooped up by a foreign military, dragged to an island and tortured. It's fucking terrifying. It's disgusting.
I hate the things my government does around the world, and there are far more important crimes to convict than lying to the fucking FEC, if we're going to go after former presidents.
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Why is this an either/or scenario? What law exactly are we charging Bush with? While we're at it lets recount the 2000 election.
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Re: TRUMP 2024 [Re: Lynnch]
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Lynnch said: Why is this an either/or scenario? What law exactly are we charging Bush with? While we're at it lets recount the 2000 election.
It's just clearly a witch hunt, and has nothing to do with principles. That's all.
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I got away with smoking weed illegally earlier today.
Welp, no point having a criminal justice system. Might as well let them all go free. Those that get busted for murder? clearly just a witch hunt.
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Re: TRUMP 2024 [Re: Kryptos]
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Kryptos said: I got away with smoking weed illegally earlier today.
Welp, no point having a criminal justice system. Might as well let them all go free. Those that get busted for murder? clearly just a witch hunt.
Every "point" you make is dumber than the last.
It's always been easy to knock down a strawman.
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I'm not against arresting Bush. Let's make it a two-fer.
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Lynnch said: Why is this an either/or scenario? What law exactly are we charging Bush with? While we're at it lets recount the 2000 election.
It's just clearly a witch hunt, and has nothing to do with principles. That's all.
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FBI officials tried to prevent last year's search of Mar-a-Lago and even sought to shut down the investigation into classified documents found in former President Donald Trump's possession entirely before they were overruled by the Justice Department, according to The Washington Post.
DOJ prosecutors and FBI agents in July feuded over how to handle the classified documents Trump took home to Mar-a-Lago before the unprecedented search of the property in August, according to the report.
Prosecutors at the time claimed that new evidence showed Trump was knowingly hiding secret documents at his private club in Florida, urging FBI agents to conduct a surprise raid. However, two senior FBI officials who would have been in charge of the search tried to push back on the plan, believing it was too combative, and instead sought to get Trump's permission to search the property, four sources told the Post under the condition of anonymity.
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Baby_Hitler said: I'm not against arresting Bush. Let's make it a two-fer.
Deal.
Never thought I'd say this, but I like the way you think, Hitler.
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Re: TRUMP 2024 [Re: koods]
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Lynnch said: Why is this an either/or scenario? What law exactly are we charging Bush with? While we're at it lets recount the 2000 election.
It's just clearly a witch hunt, and has nothing to do with principles. That's all.
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FBI officials tried to prevent last year's search of Mar-a-Lago and even sought to shut down the investigation into classified documents found in former President Donald Trump's possession entirely before they were overruled by the Justice Department, according to The Washington Post.
DOJ prosecutors and FBI agents in July feuded over how to handle the classified documents Trump took home to Mar-a-Lago before the unprecedented search of the property in August, according to the report.
Prosecutors at the time claimed that new evidence showed Trump was knowingly hiding secret documents at his private club in Florida, urging FBI agents to conduct a surprise raid. However, two senior FBI officials who would have been in charge of the search tried to push back on the plan, believing it was too combative, and instead sought to get Trump's permission to search the property, four sources told the Post under the condition of anonymity.
Neat, aaand irrelevant.
Nobody said the FBI took executive control of twitter.
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What does any of that have to do with Twitter
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Re: TRUMP 2024 [Re: koods]
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koods said: What does any of that have to do with Twitter
Oh, wrong thread.
What does that have to do with anything?
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Kryptos said: I got away with smoking weed illegally earlier today.
Welp, no point having a criminal justice system. Might as well let them all go free. Those that get busted for murder? clearly just a witch hunt.
Every "point" you make is dumber than the last.
It's always been easy to knock down a strawman.
No, see, I'm just trying to narrow down the extent of the exception. As you stated, George W Bush was not prosecuted for torturing people, which may or may not be a crime, and therefore any prosecutions of financial fraud in the election system is a witch hunt. This seems like an odd exception, but such is life. So, what other crimes turn what other crimes into witch hunts? IF someone is arrested for jaywalking on a Tuesday, does that invalidate DUIs committed on thursday afternoons between the hours of 3-5pm?
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Lynnch said: Why is this an either/or scenario? What law exactly are we charging Bush with? While we're at it lets recount the 2000 election.
It's just clearly a witch hunt, and has nothing to do with principles. That's all.
A witch hunt is different when it actually is a witch.
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Lynnch said: Why is this an either/or scenario? What law exactly are we charging Bush with? While we're at it lets recount the 2000 election.
It's just clearly a witch hunt, and has nothing to do with principles. That's all.
A witch hunt is different when it actually is a witch.
Ahah! Great post!
Ok, fair enough, but these motherfuckers need to shit or get off the pot, because I'm sick of hearing about it.
Do you know what edging is? It's what CNN has been doing for 5 years, and they're about to blow a hole in the earth's crust the size of the moon. You know, Donald Trump has hurt so many people in his lifetime, he deserves to be hurt. I do think we shouldn't stop at Trump, though.
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NATO, NAFTA, Trumps NFT trading cards....same thing.
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Brian Jones said: Trump mixed up NAFTA and NATO, and bragged that he eliminated NATO. If Biden did that it would be evidence of his senility.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/i-got-rid-of-nato-trump-confuses-security-alliance-with-nafta-in-fox-news-appearance/ar-AA19cuvL?cvid=6a53beac4d51477cd57a0701b67c36a8&ocid=winp2fptaskbarhover&ei=6
That's just evidence that Trump is an idiot who never understood anything to do with foreign policy, or geopolitics in general. He fucked up basic shit like that when he was still running.
It's totally different, the way Biden says utterly nonsensical babble that isn't even coherent words. Did you watch the video I posted? I mean... There's just no equivalence.
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You know, one thing I like about the idea of arresting Trump, is that it sets a precedent for future presidents. It lets them know that they too could be arrested. Unfortunately, it seems Trump is being arrested for pissing off the wrong, powerful people, not for the actual crimes he committed. As I said, Hillary wasn't arrested for lying to the FEC. She was fined, and moreover, the DNC was fined.
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