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"Low vibration" vs "High vibration" * 1
    #28243124 - 03/23/23 02:36 PM (10 months, 17 hours ago)

This is something I see frequently, and it kinda annoys me.

All the talk of "Raise your vibration"  and "Low vibrational energy" vs "High vibrational energy".

Actually; For a waveform of the same amplitude, a low frequency vibration is far more powerful than a high frequency vibration.

All you have to do is listen to music to understand this.
At a festival, what frequency is making the ground shake, and pounding through your whole body? Is it the high vibrational energy? No? Didn't think so.

It's the BASS.




Why is this "Raise your vibration" perpetuated so much in the spiritual community? As if low frequencies are somehow innately negative and high frequencies are innately positive.

Did one guy with a massive fundamental misunderstanding of physics manage to create an entire falsehood that has been propagated for years..


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Re: "Low vibration" vs "High vibration" [Re: Trypto-Fan]
    #28243181 - 03/23/23 03:18 PM (10 months, 16 hours ago)

I think the concept is more tied to dimensions than sound waves. For example, the "forth" dimension is Time and by increasing your frequency, u can access the time-dimension and do things like predict major events in the future.

It could also be a reference to light/electromagnetic energy, as you increase the frequency, u go beyond into Xrays and Gamma rays, which have more energy and perhaps even precieving those energy waves. Some people claim they can see into peoples bodies and can identify illnesses.


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Re: "Low vibration" vs "High vibration" [Re: Trypto-Fan] * 1
    #28243959 - 03/24/23 12:03 AM (10 months, 8 hours ago)

Mechanically speaking, as I understand it, both frequency and amplitude are proportional to the energy of waves.

As for the spiritual implication, a passage from A SUBALTERN IN SPIRIT LAND, an experience in the astral world:

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Then, far away in the distance, I saw a faint speck of light. It grew brighter and brighter, as if
it were approaching, but I could see no form. Yet I knew at once there was a form, only
distant from me an immeasurable space.

As when seated on a river bank some dark night, one gazes down into the black waters
and sees just one star reflected there, and the dark waters reflect not only the lone star, but
also, in some mysterious way, the vast space which lies between our world and it - so it
was now between me and my Guide.

Then, across the limitless space, came a sound and a voice - like the note of a mighty
organ far, far away. It swelled and swelled as it grew nearer, and finally it burst like a tempest
upon me. Its music was superb and yet awful. In some such way I could imagine the angels
trump will sound at the last day. If, indeed, there is a last day. Or is it, that for me this was the
'last day', and this the trump of the archangel calling me to judgment?

I know not. But in that manner I can best describe the effect of that mighty cadence. The
music was exquisite, yet the pain was intense.

It burst on me and over me. It overwhelmed me and shattered me. It beat me to the dust.
Yet it was articulate, and the words it spoke were words of comfort and good cheer.

'My son, you have started on the right path. You have broken down the outer darkness
which shuts me away from you. Go on and prosper little by little. I shall draw nearer and
remember though you may drive me away from you, yet will I never desert you. I cannot
draw any nearer than this lest I overwhelm you utterly. I see how even this first vision of me
has shattered and dazed you.

Grow strong in good works, in loving acts, in unselfish thoughts, and so as you grow more
able to bear the sight of the Glory, it shall be revealed to you.'

Slowly the cadence receded, and a great silence took its place. I gazed on the lone star, and
it changed from white to blue and blue to green, and green to orange, and orange to red; and
red to purple. The purple grew pale and became like lavender, and the lavender was diffused
with pink which flashed into an extraordinary colour which melted into silver.

Then waves of darkness rolled over my star, fold by fold, I could see it no more. Slowly the
wall of the house became visible and then I saw H.




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Re: "Low vibration" vs "High vibration" [Re: syncro]
    #28244628 - 03/24/23 12:41 PM (9 months, 30 days ago)

You aren't wrong, but its just a way for hippies to assert superiority over people they deem lesser or negative.


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Re: "Low vibration" vs "High vibration" [Re: Sourcer]
    #28244629 - 03/24/23 12:41 PM (9 months, 30 days ago)

And come on, you can't expect hippies to have a complex understanding of sound or science. :smile:


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Re: "Low vibration" vs "High vibration" [Re: Sourcer]
    #28244632 - 03/24/23 12:44 PM (9 months, 30 days ago)

But to give this argument some life let me share an anecdotal experience.
During a salvia trip high pitched "music" like when you get tinnitus and your ears ring but it was a musically inclined shifting of pitches. Which I feel is a more bright or positive vibration opposed to a darker trip or vibe where it is muddy and bass heavy.


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Re: "Low vibration" vs "High vibration" [Re: Sourcer]
    #28244640 - 03/24/23 12:47 PM (9 months, 30 days ago)

It's confusing because lower frequencies have greater resilience and can tend to travel farther, but lower frequency all else the same is less energy.


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Re: "Low vibration" vs "High vibration" [Re: syncro]
    #28245281 - 03/24/23 09:08 PM (9 months, 30 days ago)

Move into your mode of vibration?


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Re: "Low vibration" vs "High vibration" [Re: BrendanFlock]
    #28245288 - 03/24/23 09:15 PM (9 months, 30 days ago)

Expansion and contraction as higher and lower?


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Re: "Low vibration" vs "High vibration" [Re: BrendanFlock]
    #28249153 - 03/27/23 11:26 AM (9 months, 27 days ago)

I was trying to learn more about wave mechanics in resiliency, frequency, and energy, and was reminded that in space, there is no interference, and there is the koan.


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Re: "Low vibration" vs "High vibration" [Re: syncro]
    #28249156 - 03/27/23 11:32 AM (9 months, 27 days ago)

Also there are reflective mediums where frequency relation to resiliency are reversed, optic cable, and the ionosphere. Obvious recollections for those versed I suppose.


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Re: "Low vibration" vs "High vibration" [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #28256825 - 03/31/23 08:32 PM (9 months, 23 days ago)

Quote:

LogicaL Chaos said:
I think the concept is more tied to dimensions than sound waves. For example, the "forth" dimension is Time and by increasing your frequency, u can access the time-dimension and do things like predict major events in the future.

It could also be a reference to light/electromagnetic energy, as you increase the frequency, u go beyond into Xrays and Gamma rays, which have more energy and perhaps even precieving those energy waves. Some people claim they can see into peoples bodies and can identify illnesses.




This makes the most sense to me personally.
On the physics side, don’t faster moving, and therefore higher frequency atoms carry more energy? In the sense that hypothetical 0 degrees kelvin stops we’ll, everything.


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Re: "Low vibration" vs "High vibration" [Re: Soloist]
    #28258678 - 04/02/23 06:38 AM (9 months, 22 days ago)

Quote:

Soloist said:
Quote:

LogicaL Chaos said:
I think the concept is more tied to dimensions than sound waves. For example, the "forth" dimension is Time and by increasing your frequency, u can access the time-dimension and do things like predict major events in the future.

It could also be a reference to light/electromagnetic energy, as you increase the frequency, u go beyond into Xrays and Gamma rays, which have more energy and perhaps even precieving those energy waves. Some people claim they can see into peoples bodies and can identify illnesses.




This makes the most sense to me personally.
On the physics side, don’t faster moving, and therefore higher frequency atoms carry more energy? In the sense that hypothetical 0 degrees kelvin stops we’ll, everything.





Hmm. Ok this makes more sense. The higher the frequency of the vibration, the more energy. This is something that makes sense in physics.

But I see people claim a "low vibrational state" being tied to negative emotional states.
Surely a lower vibrational state, would still be a positive state, just with less energy.
To go into negative emotional states, wouldn't it make sense for the frequency to go into the negative.

For example, a panic attack is still a high energy state, but it is negative emotionally. So the frequency would be high, but perhaps the vibration is inverted.


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Re: "Low vibration" vs "High vibration" [Re: Trypto-Fan]
    #28258707 - 04/02/23 07:02 AM (9 months, 22 days ago)




Lol, a shitty representation I drew in MSPaint.

Both these waves have the same frequency, but their phase is inverted.


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Re: "Low vibration" vs "High vibration" [Re: Trypto-Fan] * 1
    #28258777 - 04/02/23 08:11 AM (9 months, 21 days ago)

Yeah I think frequency itself may not matter per se in terms of spiritual quality, or emotional. It depends on taste, or in the case if something "high" is broadcasting, it may be, say, a great wave of Om and the like. It could come across as lower frequency. ? I think the 'physics' are hardly related 'internally' such as that. At the same time Buddhist chants can be low frequency.

Some bass from classic rock stuff, R&B, etc., are ecstatic depending on where I'm at. I used to die for those R&B.

back in the saddle instrumental - riding in the low frequencies. volume. up. (with earphones of course, so as to not disturb neighbors)



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Re: "Low vibration" vs "High vibration" [Re: syncro]
    #28263117 - 04/05/23 07:40 AM (9 months, 19 days ago)

Human's have a natural frequency. One that is measurable to some degree. That is where this line of thought comes from. When concerned with "natural" that just means a resting state. A spring for example has a natural frequency that reacts to the load it is subjected to and the inertia of said load, flesh and human are no different. I believe humans are like 10hz on average. The problem is that the different organs, tissues, bones, etc.. all have different natural frequencies. Something like fat is going to have a higher frequency just based on density alone. A really (extremely) low bass note is going to be around 30hz. As suggested, super low bass as experienced at festivals is generally quite an experience, but the frequency isn't the same as spiritualized frequencies. That shit is mostly just made up. Of course when you trip really hard, as I sure many of you have experienced, the intensity can often feel like vibrations across the skin or manifest in other ways as well. Our vision is only good for 60hz, but the trickery comes in with the changing of your persistence of vision (it's a thing, look into it). Basically, your mind fills in massive gaps of vision that you never actually saw and does so quite successfully. We all be tripping even without the drugs. Outside of feel, this is largely the actual real life changing of your frequency as far as drug usage is concerned. And we know that a lot of religion or mysticism is pretty directly correlated back drug usage.

Anyways, that's my take.


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Re: "Low vibration" vs "High vibration" [Re: christopera]
    #28263796 - 04/05/23 03:18 PM (9 months, 18 days ago)

So the slack is between the lowest and highest vibration rates or frequencies.


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Re: "Low vibration" vs "High vibration" [Re: BrendanFlock]
    #28263982 - 04/05/23 06:25 PM (9 months, 18 days ago)

No. The change of frequency is imagined, and the variation in that very real frequency is meaningless. Effectively you have a binary state, at least as far as your material state is concerned. Dead, or alive. When alive you have a frequency. When dead you don’t.


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Re: "Low vibration" vs "High vibration" [Re: christopera]
    #28264549 - 04/06/23 02:39 AM (9 months, 18 days ago)

But potential adds up to more zeros and ones.

The main landscape of the fabric or material of reality..

The black landscape is a void a vacuum.

White is a costly paradise.

What CAN happen is the slack.. which covers both bases.. 1's and 0's..

On and off..

Ultimately are these choices?

Can you make a choice with freewill and not include slack?

Ain software..  this moment singularity.. extends ever onward!


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Re: "Low vibration" vs "High vibration" [Re: BrendanFlock]
    #28264550 - 04/06/23 02:39 AM (9 months, 18 days ago)

But how does vibration relate to choice?


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