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I got myself an apartment. No more mental ward!
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Re: I get these intense feelings [Re: Pinkerton] 2
#28469052 - 09/14/23 05:51 PM (4 months, 11 days ago) |
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Pinkerton said: How would you describe me, RGVs?

You are phenomenal, somewhat entrapped, earnest and weird. It's good And how is it going over there, are you beginning to help out and blend in with the staff?
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Re: I get these intense feelings [Re: BrendanFlock] 2
#28527488 - 11/03/23 06:09 AM (2 months, 23 days ago) |
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BrendanFlock said: Can we say all data is sense data?
What object should I meditate on?
you could say that all sensation (sense data) + all perception (memory twigged by mental contents) together are mental contents, and that they shift several times per second.
or you could say that perception is the same as sensation in that they both comprise your shifting mental contents (with virtually no biophysical differences, no differences in energy signatures etc.).
when you say meditate on, what you mean probably is what should you bind or yoke the mind to during your quiet meditation session. this is like tying a dog or a horse to a pole, something the mind does not wander from, and something the dog circulates around, or just relaxes beside.
People have been meditating on many things, sometimes objects, like casinas, physical mandala objects on the floor, or on the wall in front of you like a mandala or tankha. I like simply to use the breath, and the sensation at the tip of the nose, unless I have a sore back or something, when I let that be the pole I tie my dog to.
Sometimes it is an idea like loving kindness, sometimes it is a memory process like going back through the day, remembering all the moves and conversations reviewed in reverse.
In some cultures it can be very culturally unique and transcendent pole that the dog is tied to, but I like to go with a more basic physical yoga approach.
After the circulation is established (5-20 minutes) and concentration returns gently to the pole after any tangential distractions, while still yoked to the nose tip and breathing (beginning middle end) I widen my reflection to include random mental contents that rapidly flash by, sensory and perceptive, and to stay yoked, I do not pursue any ramifications of these (staying yoked rather than pursuing perception chains, meanings, realizations etc...) I just stay present and apprised of the arising and passing phenomena which could go in any direction.
I am describing what I do, not what you should do, I mentioned that you can do the same or different, tying up the dog to a pole is not a form of cruelty, so just be gentle about it. in fact, you could say that the whole topic is about being gentle for a set period of time each day.
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Re: I get these intense feelings [Re: Pinkerton] 2
#28528425 - 11/03/23 09:05 PM (2 months, 23 days ago) |
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Pinkerton said: I hereby ask you once and for all: Am I God or about to become God?
one doesn't "become god". if you were actually god, you wouldn't have to ask this question.
maybe a part of you, your soul, is a part of god.
we are all a part of god i think
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Re: I get these intense feelings [Re: Pinkerton] 2
#28624384 - 01/17/24 09:44 AM (10 days, 15 hours ago) |
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did you know that even instagram influencers, hamburger flippers, uber drivers, and dog walkers also struggle and struggle and struggle?
it seems to be part of the human condition, even if it is not the first thing you notice about everyone.
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I get these intense feelings 1
#28243105 - 03/23/23 02:20 PM (10 months, 11 hours ago) |
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as everything seems so real and sometimes I get little panicky because of this. I also struggle a bit with vertigo when I feel overwhelmed with the "everything seems so real"-feeling.
What is this "everything seems so real"-feeling?
I like to think i am waking up as says my avatar.
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Re: I get these intense feelings [Re: RJ Tubs 202] 1
#28244191 - 03/24/23 07:48 AM (9 months, 30 days ago) |
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I find I often feel fear when I feel more aware.
I can relate to that. Realizing/being more aware of it all is frightening as most realizations to me is based on or having a feeling of suffering and the horrid state of the world. Being alive is a crazy experience.
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Re: I get these intense feelings [Re: Pinkerton] 1
#28244225 - 03/24/23 08:11 AM (9 months, 30 days ago) |
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When we open our heart the pain rushes out. For example, when we cry about the loss of a loved one, we are suddenly slammed square in the face with the intense reality of our love for them. It can feel overwhelming.
We call it "ugly-crying" when we cry so intensely our facial expression becomes contorted as we blubber and wail. It's uncontrollable, which might be the reason we call it "ugly". When there's a crack in the shell, our true emotions burst out, and it can be shocking.
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The climb to the second ridge of the cliff was like a ladder made of roots that got soaking wet and smooth from years of use, at the Blue pools in Yamba. I looked it up and is 8m tall at its highest though.

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I would not bust up anything, just be aware of it and yeah keep relaxing.
any feeling that is slightly different than other feelings you are 100% familiar with will have a weird quality. that is good, weird is good. otherwise everything is repeating, and that is not as good.
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Re: I get these intense feelings [Re: Pinkerton] 1
#28396474 - 07/15/23 01:01 PM (6 months, 10 days ago) |
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feeling weird is good, being weird is dumb
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Re: I get these intense feelings [Re: Pinkerton] 1
#28397606 - 07/16/23 11:57 AM (6 months, 9 days ago) |
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You spew arrogance, as if me and this young man are somehow alike. The way you squeezed in the "young man"-phrase makes me think you feel insecure.
The only reason the individuals I mentioned stood out was because they were on the far end of fucked up. They were products of society like we all are. That they wanted to create their own society, wanted to be special, wanted to stick out, stand out, whatever you want to call it didn't make them better people.
But people with messianic complexes are a dime a dozen. It's all common. Wanting to stand out is a matter of hubris and is common. It's good to have a handful of good friends. Beyond that I don't gaf who has crowd. What would be impressive would be getting off that trip.
Being common, there's a shared sense of struggle. Don't have to hide that we're all mortals doing the best we can to fly without our wings constantly melting off.
And the friend I mentioned was a young man at the time, and such behavior is more common in youth. Common. And yes it did remind me of you.
-------------------- rahz comfort pleasure power love truth awareness peace "You’re not looking close enough if you can only see yourself in people who look like you." —Ayishat Akanbi
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Re: I get these intense feelings [Re: Rahz] 1
#28398800 - 07/17/23 01:31 PM (6 months, 8 days ago) |
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Okay, so you have a specific meaning to standing out.
What specific meaning?
Why is it important to note how one person stands out from humanity as a whole?
This person knows how to stand out like no one else. The serial killers you mentioned did not stand out, they were just abnormal in comparison.
It is like a person doing bench press 70kg claiming him/herself to lift a lot compared to a body builder lifting 600kg.
I think there are a bunch of truly rich people, so what is the purpose in noting how the truly rich stand out?
Wow, do you think I think rich people stand out? LOL. They are just like anyone else.
I was merely using rich people as example.
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Re: I get these intense feelings [Re: Pinkerton] 1
#28399659 - 07/18/23 11:32 AM (6 months, 7 days ago) |
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These are all different ways of standing out, being different, unusual. Your definition, or at least the one you're trying to emphasize in this conversation is a genius doing something novel.
Famous is a category people/society generally agrees on of known individuals who stand out in some way. "Novel genius" would be a subset if we assume all novel geniuses were famous/stood out to society.
The point has been cooperating on semantics. I was making the point that "standing out" doesn't have a specific connotation beyond being unusual and noticeable. Both common and uncommon depending on the context. Perhaps dumb depending on the way in which a person stands out.
I can agree that standing out as a novel genius isn't dumb.
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Re: I get these intense feelings [Re: Pinkerton] 1
#28409045 - 07/26/23 11:32 AM (5 months, 30 days ago) |
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it pervades everything as it is, otherwise how could it be as it is?
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Re: I get these intense feelings [Re: Pinkerton] 1
#28418576 - 08/03/23 11:03 AM (5 months, 22 days ago) |
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Let it be recorded Aug 3 /23 comfort in the uncomfortable re: feeling in belly. did something right.
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Re: I get these intense feelings [Re: Pinkerton] 1
#28418621 - 08/03/23 11:38 AM (5 months, 22 days ago) |
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one thing does lead to another.
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Re: I get these intense feelings [Re: Pinkerton] 1
#28424131 - 08/07/23 10:54 AM (5 months, 18 days ago) |
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nothing lasts forever, things get tired and go away.
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Re: I get these intense feelings [Re: Pinkerton] 1
#28426728 - 08/09/23 06:47 AM (5 months, 16 days ago) |
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progress towards clarity of a sort
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