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I get these intense feelings 1
#28243105 - 03/23/23 02:20 PM (10 months, 5 hours ago) |
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as everything seems so real and sometimes I get little panicky because of this. I also struggle a bit with vertigo when I feel overwhelmed with the "everything seems so real"-feeling.
What is this "everything seems so real"-feeling?
I like to think i am waking up as says my avatar.
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Re: I get these intense feelings [Re: Pinkerton]
#28243114 - 03/23/23 02:28 PM (10 months, 5 hours ago) |
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Re: I get these intense feelings [Re: Rahz]
#28243122 - 03/23/23 02:35 PM (10 months, 5 hours ago) |
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Re: I get these intense feelings [Re: Pinkerton]
#28243325 - 03/23/23 05:14 PM (10 months, 2 hours ago) |
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I think the feeling of extra reality comes when you are slightly emotional or stoned.
what is experienced persists a little bit longer - seems more vivid or shrper, more beautiful. sparkly. and the perceptions ramify and continue to embellish in a dream-like fashion but it is waking dream ramification. (i love it in dreams or awake)
just enjoy it when it happens,
it's the best.
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Do you know what the feeling is called? ConclusionAware?
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Re: I get these intense feelings [Re: Pinkerton]
#28244171 - 03/24/23 07:38 AM (9 months, 30 days ago) |
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I suspect at times I emerge from the trance of selfishness and boredom and am able to better notice and appreciate what is occurring outside my head. I wonder if the panic and feeling of being "overwhelmed" is the seductive lure of wanting to retreat and crawl back into the shell, where I believe I will feel safer and more protected. The fear response is interesting to me. I find I often feel fear when I feel more aware.
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#28244191 - 03/24/23 07:48 AM (9 months, 30 days ago) |
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I find I often feel fear when I feel more aware.
I can relate to that. Realizing/being more aware of it all is frightening as most realizations to me is based on or having a feeling of suffering and the horrid state of the world. Being alive is a crazy experience.
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#28244225 - 03/24/23 08:11 AM (9 months, 30 days ago) |
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When we open our heart the pain rushes out. For example, when we cry about the loss of a loved one, we are suddenly slammed square in the face with the intense reality of our love for them. It can feel overwhelming.
We call it "ugly-crying" when we cry so intensely our facial expression becomes contorted as we blubber and wail. It's uncontrollable, which might be the reason we call it "ugly". When there's a crack in the shell, our true emotions burst out, and it can be shocking.
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Re: I get these intense feelings [Re: Pinkerton]
#28244226 - 03/24/23 08:11 AM (9 months, 30 days ago) |
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more aware can be different things.
#1, more aware of active mental contents 10 x per second is about as more aware as you can be, but it requires a relaxed basic frame of mind.
#2, more aware of perceptual ramifications and permutations can be very intense, psychedelic, emotional, dream like, and this is also really great when you are in a relaxed frame of mind, but it is not normally accompanied by #1. Also, usually, among the ramifications and permutations are a fair bit of error. (mara, delusion, etc.)
#3, more casually aware is when you are more aware of something because it just moved or changed or went from static to dynamic, and this is what happens mostly when your awareness shifts - because something in your environment or mind changed and this pulls your attention to it like a gravity well.
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Re: I get these intense feelings [Re: RJ Tubs 202]
#28244253 - 03/24/23 08:28 AM (9 months, 30 days ago) |
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RJ Tubs 202 said: When we open our heart the pain rushes out. For example, when we cry about the loss of a loved one, we are suddenly slammed square in the face with the intense reality of our love for them. It can feel overwhelming.
We call it "ugly-crying" when we cry so intensely our facial expression becomes contorted as we blubber and wail. It's uncontrollable, which might be the reason we call it "ugly". When there's a crack in the shell, our true emotions burst out, and it can be shocking.
I get you, but there is something out of the ordinary with these intense feelings. I have felt overwhelmed before but this aware-panicking is just another unique feeling/experience (out of the ordinary) I have felt over the past 10 years.
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Re: I get these intense feelings [Re: Pinkerton]
#28244258 - 03/24/23 08:31 AM (9 months, 30 days ago) |
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How do you define "ordinary" and "out of the ordinary"?
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Re: I get these intense feelings [Re: RJ Tubs 202]
#28244274 - 03/24/23 08:46 AM (9 months, 30 days ago) |
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Ordinary = I get it. Out of the ordinary = I cannot put my finger on it.
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Re: I get these intense feelings [Re: Pinkerton]
#28244401 - 03/24/23 10:12 AM (9 months, 30 days ago) |
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while memory formation and perception is proceeding continuously at 10HZ, much of the perceptions underway are "indeterminate" or do not resolve as clear functional reactions (you may have a partial reflex even a tremor or a tightening or partial defensive but unfinished negative gesture).
These are fuzzy, darki-sh, or ghostly fragments, sometimes with looming feelings that do not gell into anything specific, you certainly cannot put your finger on any of that.
This can and is metaphorically the landscape of the "unconscious" but unconscious is a terrible way to describe something that is actually 100% conscious (it cannot happen without the operation of sensation +memory formation + perception which is conscious) but unclear or unresolved. Terrible because it supports wrong thinking or superstitious thinking - include erroneous ideation about possession or divinity.
So while only conscious mind exists, a good deal of the mental contents within conscious mind are not clear, and can not be expected to be clear, as the normal functioning of perception is entirely subject to the associative reflex and that is based upon how familiar the memories are with the events in context that are evoking them.
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That stuff is way too high IQ for me to understand.
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Re: I get these intense feelings [Re: Pinkerton]
#28244748 - 03/24/23 01:42 PM (9 months, 30 days ago) |
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you brought it up, these intense feelings...
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You are an expert. I am a nobody.
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Re: I get these intense feelings [Re: Pinkerton]
#28244775 - 03/24/23 01:48 PM (9 months, 30 days ago) |
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I just make it up as I go along
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I am starting to think you are a genius.
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Re: I get these intense feelings [Re: Pinkerton]
#28244800 - 03/24/23 02:05 PM (9 months, 30 days ago) |
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doesn't matter
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Re: I get these intense feelings [Re: Pinkerton]
#28245556 - 03/25/23 02:40 AM (9 months, 29 days ago) |
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Pinkerton said: as everything seems so real and sometimes I get little panicky because of this. I also struggle a bit with vertigo when I feel overwhelmed with the "everything seems so real"-feeling.
What is this "everything seems so real"-feeling?
I like to think i am waking up as says my avatar.
I get pretty vivid vertigo standing by the top of sheer faces above 10m. If there's a slant or batter to catch my fall, and foilage to hold on to, I feel even more at ease.
The adrenaline rush of cliff jumping is a tantalising temptation, I used to jump off 5 to 10m ones into waterholes in my youth. The reality of the ease is reverbarent to me.
Anything above 10m or so and the joy translates into a kind of fear. Indications that the joy of the dive would never outweigh the cost.
No self harm, just thoughts of good fun.
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