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Russia did it
    #28239541 - 03/21/23 12:16 PM (10 months, 2 days ago)

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Pro-Moscow voices tried to steer Ohio train disaster debate

WASHINGTON (AP) — Soon after a train derailed and spilled toxic chemicals in Ohio last month, anonymous pro-Russian accounts started spreading misleading claims and anti-American propaganda about it on Twitter, using Elon Musk’s new verification system to expand their reach while creating the illusion of credibility.

The accounts, which parroted Kremlin talking points on myriad topics, claimed without evidence that authorities in Ohio were lying about the true impact of the chemical spill. The accounts spread fearmongering posts that preyed on legitimate concerns about pollution and health effects and compared the response to the derailment with America’s support for Ukraine following its invasion by Russia.




Jeeeeesus Chrrrrrriiiiiist!

How stupid do these lazy wannabe "journalists" think we are? This is fucking PATHETIC.


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Re: Russia did it [Re: Bigbadwooof] * 3
    #28239545 - 03/21/23 12:20 PM (10 months, 2 days ago)

Don't you know it is Trump's fault?

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Re: Russia did it [Re: starfire_xes]
    #28239616 - 03/21/23 01:18 PM (10 months, 2 days ago)

As a matter of fact, I do know that, yes!


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Re: Russia did it [Re: jack_straw2208]
    #28239645 - 03/21/23 01:37 PM (10 months, 2 days ago)

Wait you think Russia is responsible for the train derailment? Lol Jesus Christ dude it was a brake failure on poorly maintained trains.


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Re: Russia did it [Re: koods]
    #28239676 - 03/21/23 01:50 PM (10 months, 2 days ago)

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Wait you think Russia is responsible for the train derailment? Lol Jesus Christ dude it was a brake failure on poorly maintained trains.




Mmmm....

Yeah but..

Russia did it!


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Re: Russia did it [Re: Bigbadwooof]
    #28239682 - 03/21/23 01:54 PM (10 months, 2 days ago)

russia did what?

try to create a social media shit storm? sounds reasonable they do it all the time:shrug:

if you go on faux medias webpage and look at any of the comments you can easily spot plenty of esl speakers. and they aint spanish.


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Re: Russia did it [Re: mushboy] * 2
    #28239722 - 03/21/23 02:20 PM (10 months, 2 days ago)

Domestic media used to say the civil rights movement was a Soviet plot to weaken America.

Blaming your own failures on your enemies is nothing new.


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Re: Russia did it [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #28239727 - 03/21/23 02:23 PM (10 months, 2 days ago)

they also used to say smoking weed helps terrorism. todays nonsense is still fueled by the right. its always the right.


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Re: Russia did it [Re: mushboy] * 1
    #28239732 - 03/21/23 02:26 PM (10 months, 2 days ago)

Can confirm, smoking weed was directly instrumental in me acquiring an extensive working knowledge of both civilian and military explosives.


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Re: Russia did it [Re: mushboy]
    #28239734 - 03/21/23 02:27 PM (10 months, 2 days ago)

Anyone who is 100% certain that they never fall for propaganda, falls for propaganda.


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Re: Russia did it [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #28239751 - 03/21/23 02:35 PM (10 months, 2 days ago)

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Domestic media used to say the civil rights movement was a Soviet plot to weaken America.

Blaming your own failures on your enemies is nothing new.




Very true!
Take the Soviet Union as an example! :cookiemonster:


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Re: Russia did it [Re: mycosis]
    #28239797 - 03/21/23 03:01 PM (10 months, 2 days ago)

Man... you guys need help! lmao

I'm trying to fix you!


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Re: Russia did it [Re: Lynnch]
    #28239798 - 03/21/23 03:01 PM (10 months, 2 days ago)

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Anyone who is 100% certain that they never fall for propaganda, falls for propaganda.




i fall for it all day. like psychedelic users are friendly:crankey:


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Re: Russia did it [Re: mushboy]
    #28239816 - 03/21/23 03:05 PM (10 months, 2 days ago)

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Anyone who is 100% certain that they never fall for propaganda, falls for propaganda.




i fall for it all day. like drugs are a cure all ect..




Who says their not? Maybe you're just not doing the right drugs/enough of them. The real problem with using drugs as a cure-all is that there aren't enough of them!


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Re: Russia did it [Re: Bigbadwooof] * 1
    #28239858 - 03/21/23 03:27 PM (10 months, 2 days ago)

i edited my post:shrug: same meaning i guess.

thanks for proving a point tho.


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Re: Russia did it [Re: mushboy]
    #28239864 - 03/21/23 03:31 PM (10 months, 2 days ago)

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i edited my post:shrug: same meaning i guess.

thanks for proving a point tho.




I'm glad we can finally agree on something :wink:


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Re: Russia did it [Re: mushboy]
    #28239917 - 03/21/23 03:59 PM (10 months, 2 days ago)

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russia did what?

try to create a social media shit storm? sounds reasonable they do it all the time:shrug:

if you go on faux medias webpage and look at any of the comments you can easily spot plenty of esl speakers. and they aint spanish.




Oh I see what he’s saying.

Yeah this story has manufactured outrage written all over it. There’s actually nothing wrong with East Palestine. The water is fine. Nobody got hurt. It was ridiculous hysteria manufactured by conservatives and it’s totally believable that the Russians piled on. The way things happened in terms of information was definitely unusual.


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    #28239923 - 03/21/23 04:06 PM (10 months, 2 days ago)

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Oh I see what he’s saying.

Yeah this story has manufactured outrage written all over it. There’s actually nothing wrong with this East Palestine. The water is fine. Nobody got hurt. It was ridiculous hysteria manufactured conservatives and it’s totally believable that the Russians piled on. The way things happened in terms of information was definitely unusual.




It's an ecological disaster, actually. When did Democrats just stop giving a shit about the environment? Is it really worth it to compromise all of your values to maintain that "D"?


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Re: Russia did it [Re: Bigbadwooof]
    #28239925 - 03/21/23 04:07 PM (10 months, 2 days ago)

Looks like you fell for it


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    #28239943 - 03/21/23 04:13 PM (10 months, 2 days ago)

About a week after they started pushing this ecological disaster story, some people started freaking out about dust falling from the sky and covering their cars. They were saying it was from East Palestine. Government officials came and sampled the dust.

I went outside and sure enough my car was covered too. it was pollen. People were freaking out about the arrival of spring. Americans are stupid.



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Re: Russia did it [Re: koods]
    #28239951 - 03/21/23 04:20 PM (10 months, 2 days ago)

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russia did what?

try to create a social media shit storm? sounds reasonable they do it all the time:shrug:

if you go on faux medias webpage and look at any of the comments you can easily spot plenty of esl speakers. and they aint spanish.




Oh I see what he’s saying.

Yeah this story has manufactured outrage written all over it. There’s actually nothing wrong with East Palestine. The water is fine. Nobody got hurt. It was ridiculous hysteria manufactured by conservatives and it’s totally believable that the Russians piled on. The way things happened in terms of information was definitely unusual.




Nevertheless, I am goddamn glad that I was on the other side of the world when it happened.


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Re: Russia did it [Re: Kryptos] * 1
    #28240052 - 03/21/23 05:25 PM (10 months, 2 days ago)

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Nevertheless, I am goddamn glad that I was on the other side of the world when it happened.




Yeah, no shit, because Koods is 100% incorrect. I live in Michigan, and that's too close for my comfort.


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Re: Russia did it [Re: Bigbadwooof]
    #28240175 - 03/21/23 06:41 PM (10 months, 2 days ago)

Your irrational fear is irrelevant to what the sampling has shown, which is virtually no contamination. Acrolein was sampling higher, but I guarantee a seared steak has more than what they are finding. There appears to be little environmental contamination in the area.

The Russians did a good job it appears. The residents of east Palestine surely appreciate the fact that their property values have plummeted for no reason other than bullshit propaganda


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Re: Russia did it [Re: Bigbadwooof]
    #28240184 - 03/21/23 06:43 PM (10 months, 2 days ago)

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Wait you think Russia is responsible for the train derailment? Lol Jesus Christ dude it was a brake failure on poorly maintained trains.




Mmmm....

Yeah but..

Russia did it!





If voters actually were dumb enough to be dooped by social media bots [because they give too much credence to social media], then they deserve to be dooped.


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Re: Russia did it [Re: koods] * 1
    #28240301 - 03/21/23 07:24 PM (10 months, 2 days ago)

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Your irrational fear is irrelevant to what the sampling has shown, which is virtually no contamination. Acrolein was sampling higher, but I guarantee a seared steak has more than what they are finding. There appears to be little environmental contamination in the area.

The Russians did a good job it appears. The residents of east Palestine surely appreciate the fact that their property values have plummeted for no reason other than bullshit propaganda




The fact that you actually believe Russia has anything to do with public opinion on this matter is pathetic and sad. The EPA had Norfolk Southern do the contamination testing themselves. I've seen numerous videos showing chemicals in the river water, and dead animals.

Maybe you think scientists at Purdue are Russian operatives too:





God, this shit is so goofy and stupid. I can't imagine you're even arguing in good faith anymore.

"The Russians burr de durr" ... Jesus Christ, it's just so stupid!


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Re: Russia did it [Re: Bigbadwooof]
    #28240328 - 03/21/23 07:38 PM (10 months, 2 days ago)

small market local is a worthless source. If you consume fear porn, you’re probably gonna be afraid. Plus those reports didn’t actually say anything.

When it comes to anything to do with chemistry, mews reports are essentially worthless. What is acrolein? Sounds scary.  It’s the chemical that burns your eyes when you grill a steak or overheat cooking oil

Where’s the actual data showing contamination? Everything I’ve seen from actual scientists shows normal levels of everything except acrolein, which again is a substance you consume everyday if you eat cooked food.

No offense but you seem particularly susceptible to conspiracy theories from what I’ve seen


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Re: Russia did it [Re: koods] * 1
    #28240364 - 03/21/23 08:05 PM (10 months, 2 days ago)

The chemicals they are worried about are dioxins:

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Dioxins are called persistent organic pollutants (POPs), meaning they take a long time to break down once they are in the environment.
Dioxins are highly toxic and can cause cancer, reproductive and developmental problems, damage to the immune system, and can interfere with hormones.




Your body can't eliminate dioxins, once they have been ingested, and they take thousands of years to break down.

By the way, my concerns have nothing to do with Russia, or Russians:

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"We're seeing that these chemicals are present in the water, suggesting that the water has been contaminated. We're able to see stuff that other measurement techniques would show to be below a limit of detection. So, some other technique techniques may say, hey, the air is safe, the water is safe, because they are not as sensitive," said Professor Brandon Boor.

... Preliminary testing reveals toxic chemicals

"I think this is a situation where there was probably very significant acute exposure shortly after the derailment, and subsequent combustion of these chemicals. And then I think there might be the potential for, you know, long term chronic exposure, if the environment is not carefully remediated to remove these chemicals," said Jung. "I think we need to kind of be aware of what could happen long term if we're not monitoring the environment carefully using sophisticated instrumentation and also not trying to, you know, remediate the environment,"

Their testing so far reveals toxic chemicals, suggesting widespread contamination in the waterways.

"We're seeing that these chemicals are present in the water, suggesting that the water has been contaminated. We're able to see stuff that other measurement techniques would show to be below a limit of detection. So, some other technique techniques may say, hey, the air is safe, the water is safe, because they are not as sensitive," said Professor Brandon Boor.
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The group doesn't believe adequate testing is being done in East Palestine, so they're voluntarily testing soil and water samples to get a better understanding of what toxic chemicals are present.

That testing is also vital for Hoosiers as 34 shipments of contaminated soil have already been buried at a landfill near Roachdale.

The owner of the landfill, Heritage Environmental Services, says it made an agreement with the EPA to bury around 2,000 tons of contaminated soil from the derailment site.


Putnam County residents, state leaders and Governor Eric Holcomb are concerned about dioxins, a highly toxic pollutant that can cause cancer.

The EPA has temporarily halted the remaining shipments until Dioxin testing is completed in Ohio.






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Re: Russia did it [Re: Bigbadwooof]
    #28240377 - 03/21/23 08:10 PM (10 months, 2 days ago)

Where’s the data? I’m sorry but I’m just going to disregard local news as a source. They have no clue what they’re talking about. Have you ever watched a news story about a topic you are familiar with, and realize that they are wrong about practically everything?

The moment you said you were worried about this in Michigan, everybody should realize you aren’t thinking straight. Stop consuming fear porn.


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Re: Russia did it [Re: koods]
    #28240387 - 03/21/23 08:15 PM (10 months, 2 days ago)

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Where’s the data? I’m sorry but I’m just going to disregard local news as a source. They have no clue what they’re talking about

The moment you said you were worried about this in Michigan, everybody should realize you aren’t thinking straight




Lol, well how convenient. I'm done with this, it's just stupid. "If CNN didn't say it, it can't be true!" lol! Also... Russia!!!


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    #28240388 - 03/21/23 08:15 PM (10 months, 2 days ago)

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they also used to say smoking weed helps terrorism. todays nonsense is still fueled by the right. its always the right.




I agree, but I think we probably have different definitions of “the right.”


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    #28240393 - 03/21/23 08:17 PM (10 months, 2 days ago)

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Where’s the data? I’m sorry but I’m just going to disregard local news as a source. They have no clue what they’re talking about

The moment you said you were worried about this in Michigan, everybody should realize you aren’t thinking straight




Lol, well how convenient. I'm done with this, it's just stupid. "If CNN didn't say it, it can't be true!" lol! Also... Russia!!!




Russians amplify these stories. That’s just a fact. They have admitted to it. I would suggest being a more sophisticated consumer of news so you don’t keep falling for misinformation.


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    #28240479 - 03/21/23 09:09 PM (10 months, 2 days ago)

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Russians amplify these stories. That’s just a fact. They have admitted to it. I would suggest being a more sophisticated consumer of news so you don’t keep falling for misinformation.




I'd recommend the same to you, ironically.

By the way, I don't even have a twitter account, and there's literally no possible way the Russians could have influenced my opinion on this subject, unless you're suggesting they have infiltrated local news networks.


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    #28240486 - 03/21/23 09:11 PM (10 months, 2 days ago)

Yet they have, because you’re quivering in fear in Michigan hundreds of miles away from a not ecological disaster


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    #28240500 - 03/21/23 09:19 PM (10 months, 2 days ago)

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Yet they have, because you’re quivering in fear in Michigan hundreds of miles away from a not ecological disaster




I don't even know why I waste my time with you. It's clearly not worth the effort. This conversation is just ridiculous.


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Re: Russia did it [Re: Bigbadwooof]
    #28240591 - 03/21/23 10:13 PM (10 months, 1 day ago)

Yeah, local news networks are all owned by sinclair broadcasting now anyway.


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Re: Russia did it [Re: Kryptos]
    #28240602 - 03/21/23 10:22 PM (10 months, 1 day ago)

I love the stories about cops ODing on fentanyl because they touched a baggie.



Every one these stories is complete bullshit


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Re: Russia did it [Re: koods]
    #28240982 - 03/22/23 09:33 AM (10 months, 1 day ago)

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I love the stories about cops ODing on fentanyl because they touched a baggie.

Every one these stories is complete bullshit




You know what's funny about that? The cop that illegally searched me last spring, and put me in jail.. While he was searching me, he was terrified to put his hand in my pockets because he was afraid of getting poked by fentanyl lol! He kept begging me to tell him what was in my pockets, and assure him there was no fentanyl in there, and I didn't say shit, because I don't talk to cops lol


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Re: Russia did it [Re: Kryptos]
    #28240986 - 03/22/23 09:36 AM (10 months, 1 day ago)

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Yeah, local news networks are all owned by sinclair broadcasting now anyway.




So local news is all owned by one big media giant, and therefore their stories are all bullshit/sensationalism, is that what you're saying? Or at least that their journalistic integrity has suffered as a result?

Well what about nationwide cable news then?


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Re: Russia did it [Re: Bigbadwooof]
    #28240996 - 03/22/23 09:42 AM (10 months, 1 day ago)

Local news from local folk has a certain hyper focused amateurish feel.

I grew up watching national news in dc as local news. When I moved to the sticks the local news was laughably bad. The anchors couldn’t pronounce anything and their personal commentary was cringy as f and lacked any perspective. Also had an eerie jesusy tint to everything.

and this was 20yrs ago. Can only assume it’s gotten worse:shrug:


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Re: Russia did it [Re: Bigbadwooof]
    #28241022 - 03/22/23 10:01 AM (10 months, 1 day ago)

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Quote:

Kryptos said:
Yeah, local news networks are all owned by sinclair broadcasting now anyway.




So local news is all owned by one big media giant, and therefore their stories are all bullshit/sensationalism, is that what you're saying? Or at least that their journalistic integrity has suffered as a result?

Well what about nationwide cable news then?




Many, though not all, nationwide news networks have journalistic standards.

Sinclair is not one of them.


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Re: Russia did it [Re: Kryptos]
    #28242497 - 03/23/23 07:50 AM (10 months, 14 hours ago)

Yeah, the vids of all the Sinclair anchors reading the same script are pretty spooky


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