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Re: NYT and Several News Outlets Call for Assange's Release [Re: Bigbadwooof]
    #28242704 - 03/23/23 09:52 AM (10 months, 12 hours ago)

Did you read the document? He made multiple attempts to break the encryption. Again, this would have set up an innocent party to make them look like they were committing espionage. Fuck that piece of shit.


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Re: NYT and Several News Outlets Call for Assange's Release [Re: Bigbadwooof]
    #28242706 - 03/23/23 09:52 AM (10 months, 12 hours ago)

Well, if the case is so weak, why doesn't Assange come to America and defend the case?  Why spend so much time and energy avoiding a trial that you seem to think is an easy win?


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Re: NYT and Several News Outlets Call for Assange's Release [Re: koods]
    #28242710 - 03/23/23 09:54 AM (10 months, 12 hours ago)

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Did you read the document? He made multiple attempts to break the encryption. Again, this would have set up an innocent party to make them look like they were committing espionage. Fuck that piece of shit.



Why would someone engaged in righteous journalism need to deflect responsibility to a third party?

I wonder how many times CNN does that each year?


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Re: NYT and Several News Outlets Call for Assange's Release [Re: Enlil]
    #28242712 - 03/23/23 09:55 AM (10 months, 12 hours ago)

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Well, if the case is so weak, why doesn't Assange come to America and defend the case?  Why spend so much time and energy avoiding a trial that you seem to think is an easy win?




Because he doesn't believe he will be given a fair trial, and neither do I, obviously. The CIA was literally making plans to murder him.


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Re: NYT and Several News Outlets Call for Assange's Release [Re: Bigbadwooof]
    #28242716 - 03/23/23 09:57 AM (10 months, 11 hours ago)

Do you have a source for your CIA claim?  Or is that just another fact you threw out without verifying?


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Re: NYT and Several News Outlets Call for Assange's Release [Re: Bigbadwooof]
    #28242740 - 03/23/23 10:06 AM (10 months, 11 hours ago)

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Well, if the case is so weak, why doesn't Assange come to America and defend the case?  Why spend so much time and energy avoiding a trial that you seem to think is an easy win?




Because he doesn't believe he will be given a fair trial, and neither do I, obviously. The CIA was literally making plans to murder him.




“The cia is trying to murder me” = mental illness


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Re: NYT and Several News Outlets Call for Assange's Release [Re: Enlil]
    #28242783 - 03/23/23 10:32 AM (10 months, 11 hours ago)

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Do you have a source for your CIA claim?  Or is that just another fact you threw out without verifying?




https://www.theguardian.com/media/2021/sep/27/senior-cia-officials-trump-discussed-assassinating-julian-assange


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Re: NYT and Several News Outlets Call for Assange's Release [Re: Bigbadwooof]
    #28242787 - 03/23/23 10:35 AM (10 months, 11 hours ago)

I'm not sure that really qualifies as "making plans" to kill him, but it's something.  Not really the bombshell I hoped you'd have.


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Re: NYT and Several News Outlets Call for Assange's Release [Re: Enlil]
    #28242794 - 03/23/23 10:39 AM (10 months, 11 hours ago)

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I'm not sure that really qualifies as "making plans" to kill him, but it's something.  Not really the bombshell I hoped you'd have.




If the government of a foreign country was contemplating illegally murdering me, I wouldn't expect that country to give me a fair trial, particularly if I had pissed off a large number of the most powerful politicians in that country in the past, and also their intelligence community.

If Assange is extradited, he'll probably die the same way Epstein died.


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Re: NYT and Several News Outlets Call for Assange's Release [Re: Bigbadwooof]
    #28242797 - 03/23/23 10:41 AM (10 months, 11 hours ago)

You think he'd kill himself?


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Re: NYT and Several News Outlets Call for Assange's Release [Re: Enlil]
    #28242809 - 03/23/23 10:49 AM (10 months, 11 hours ago)

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You think he'd kill himself?




I think he'd meet a premature end, under odd circumstances, prior to his day in court, possibly by hanging.


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Re: NYT and Several News Outlets Call for Assange's Release [Re: Bigbadwooof]
    #28242816 - 03/23/23 10:58 AM (10 months, 10 hours ago)

He seems the type to off himself


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Re: NYT and Several News Outlets Call for Assange's Release [Re: Enlil]
    #28242822 - 03/23/23 11:02 AM (10 months, 10 hours ago)

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He seems the type to off himself




Alright look... What I'm suggesting is that the CIA might assassinate him, as they've already considered doing.


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Re: NYT and Several News Outlets Call for Assange's Release [Re: Bigbadwooof]
    #28242824 - 03/23/23 11:03 AM (10 months, 10 hours ago)

Doubtful. They could do that now if they wanted.


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Re: NYT and Several News Outlets Call for Assange's Release [Re: Enlil]
    #28242833 - 03/23/23 11:11 AM (10 months, 10 hours ago)

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Doubtful. They could do that now if they wanted.




I can only speculate that it's easier to infiltrate a domestic federal prison than a foreign one. That's a fairly plausible assumption, especially if the CIA plans to do something illegal.


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Re: NYT and Several News Outlets Call for Assange's Release [Re: koods]
    #28242835 - 03/23/23 11:14 AM (10 months, 10 hours ago)

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Well, if the case is so weak, why doesn't Assange come to America and defend the case?  Why spend so much time and energy avoiding a trial that you seem to think is an easy win?




Because he doesn't believe he will be given a fair trial, and neither do I, obviously. The CIA was literally making plans to murder him.




“The cia is trying to murder me” = mental illness




Here’s another example of koods being willfully ignorant because acknowledging reality contradicts his worldview.

https://amp.theguardian.com/media/2021/sep/27/senior-cia-officials-trump-discussed-assassinating-julian-assange


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Re: NYT and Several News Outlets Call for Assange's Release [Re: Bigbadwooof]
    #28242836 - 03/23/23 11:15 AM (10 months, 10 hours ago)

Easier, probably, but you really believe inconvenience is what's preventing them now?


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Re: NYT and Several News Outlets Call for Assange's Release [Re: Bigbadwooof]
    #28242839 - 03/23/23 11:17 AM (10 months, 10 hours ago)

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He seems the type to off himself




Alright look... What I'm suggesting is that the CIA might assassinate him, as they've already considered doing.




Mike Pompeo is no longer associated with the cia

I think a more accurate headline would be “Trump officials discussed assassinating Assange”


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Re: NYT and Several News Outlets Call for Assange's Release [Re: koods]
    #28242849 - 03/23/23 11:22 AM (10 months, 10 hours ago)

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He seems the type to off himself




Alright look... What I'm suggesting is that the CIA might assassinate him, as they've already considered doing.




Mike Pompeo is no longer associated with the cia

I think a more accurate headline would be “Trump officials discussed assassinating Assange”




Pompeo wasn't the only one considering assassinating Assange. He wasn't considering to himself. It's called the "deep state", because these people often hold their positions for a very long time, as opposed to elected officials, who have term limits.

Pompeo did have a measurably large erection for Assange though, so I suppose the fact that he is gone works in his favor.


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Re: NYT and Several News Outlets Call for Assange's Release [Re: Bigbadwooof]
    #28242852 - 03/23/23 11:23 AM (10 months, 10 hours ago)

The deep state is conspiracy nutter fiction


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