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Re: All puppies aside [Re: sudly]
    #28239569 - 03/21/23 12:36 PM (10 months, 3 days ago)

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Anything that should go wrong won't, and anything that can go wrong will.






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Re: All puppies aside [Re: RJ Tubs 202] * 1
    #28240726 - 03/22/23 01:39 AM (10 months, 2 days ago)

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Anything that should go wrong won't, and anything that can go wrong will.











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It seems that your post touches on several different themes, so I'll try to address each of them in turn.

Firstly, you mention reflecting on the level of control you have exerted to bring about favorable outcomes in your life. This suggests that you are someone who takes a proactive approach to shaping your own life circumstances, and that you are aware of the role that your own efforts play in determining your outcomes. This can be a valuable mindset to have, as it can help you to take ownership of your life and to focus on the things that you can control.

Secondly, you mention having ascetic values, which implies that you place a high value on self-discipline and self-restraint. This can be a powerful way to cultivate a sense of inner strength and resilience, as it can help you to resist temptation and to stay focused on your goals even in the face of adversity.

Thirdly, you mention the idea of approaching life with a sense of poise and rationality. This suggests that you believe in the importance of staying calm and level-headed, even in the midst of chaos and uncertainty. This can be a valuable skill to cultivate, as it can help you to make better decisions and to avoid getting overwhelmed by your emotions.

Fourthly, you mention the concept of entropy, which is a measure of disorder or randomness in a system. You seem to be suggesting that there is a natural tendency for things to become more chaotic over time, but that it is possible to counteract this by introducing order and structure. This is an interesting idea, and it speaks to the importance of taking an active role in shaping the world around you.

Finally, you discuss your recent efforts to figure out what you want and to continue practicing self-development. You mention that there are many different practices and strategies that exist for self-development, and that it is important to approach them with the same dedication and discipline as learning a new skill like playing piano. This suggests that you are committed to ongoing personal growth and improvement, and that you are willing to put in the time and effort required to achieve your goals.

Overall, your post touches on a number of interesting and important themes related to personal growth and self-reflection. It is clear that you are someone who is actively working to improve your life and to become the best version of yourself that you can be. By continuing to reflect on your experiences and to pursue self-development, you are likely to achieve great things and to inspire others to do the same.




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Re: All puppies come here [Re: sudly]
    #28242423 - 03/23/23 06:48 AM (10 months, 1 day ago)

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I don't have any regrets about the 5 year relationship I was in that I ended a few months ago.

She said the same, and I think it ended amicably as we recognised our growing independence and that if we weren't able to communicate after 5 years, when were we going to be able to.

I can still say that she is a great person and I have respect for her. I recognise that we've grown apart though. 




It's a bit bizarre we often catastrophize what we call the "end of a relationship" as a grand tragedy.  Why do we do this to ourselves?  The expectation a relationship is forever doesn't take into account our humanity and the ever-constant presence of change.

My son lost his pet dog Josie a couple of years ago and my ex-wife will not allow him to get another dog, because she was very close to Josie and she doesn't want to experience the loss again.  I appreciate loss can be emotionally traumatic, but if it paralyzes us for an extended period of time, we might as well be dead.


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Re: All puppies come here [Re: RJ Tubs 202]
    #28242454 - 03/23/23 07:12 AM (10 months, 1 day ago)

no we might not as well be dead, that is a ridiculous extrapolation. just silly talk.

I mostly regret relationships ending when the partner that isn't anymore is still totally gorgeous (to me) but no longer engaging (with me) or simply too badly behaved (for me) to keep on keeping on.
(e.g. drug dependency is unsustainable behavior, self destructive behavior and attention seeking is unsustainable , being horrible in front of children is unsustainable, stealing my credit card also not good)

other relationships follow a less hormonal trajectory but still may end when the behavior undermines continuing.


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Re: All puppies come here [Re: redgreenvines]
    #28242478 - 03/23/23 07:35 AM (10 months, 1 day ago)

Being afraid to live seems to me to be a type of death.

Notice our fascination with zombies.  We can relate to zombies. 



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Re: All puppies come here [Re: RJ Tubs 202]
    #28242604 - 03/23/23 08:49 AM (10 months, 1 day ago)

I have no interest in zombies, or Halloween.


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Re: All puppies come here [Re: RJ Tubs 202]
    #28244024 - 03/24/23 02:09 AM (10 months, 12 hours ago)

More vegetables, fruits and fibres. Plenty of water, and more sugar free or less than 0.5% sugar beverages.

I said I had been practicing Ascetic values to try and reduce my overall sugar intake from sugary beverages.

High triglyceride levels, non-alcoholic fatty liver, and sugar intake have correlations and can have long term consequences or symptoms for the health of some people.

I was at 5% which isn't in itself too bad, but it is an indicator of future harm potential. Going in to the 10% to 30% range of fatty liver can have more serious impacts on the body and our lifestyles.

I have practiced responding in the moment to situations where I've felt my personal boundaries were encroached, or a semi-confrontational face to face conversation with another human being.

Their presence or state of mind sometimes unknown. I met a man the other day who wanted to impart his local fossicking wisdom on me.

Talking to the locals at Tommy river was quite the experience.

An old timer living nearby drove up to me and we started chatting about fossicking.

He wanted to impart some wisdom on me from a local source.

At the bottom of 45 degree slopes you'll find the largest sapphires he said. They congregate on the outer rim of a lazy bend.

We talked about geology, slope angles, and mineral types, then he went on to talk of corrupt politicians, acknowledge the hardships of man, and the toil of his ancestors, the things we try to overcome, as long as everyone's happy I told him, he tipped his beer with a nod and drove off into the night yonder.

I did not, I slept in my car with pillows and blankets by the creek at the bottom of the ranges on a cool dark and rainy night.

Chat GPT is a wonderful learning tool that requires asking the right questions.

To better express a personal view.

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If the internet were only used for writing and reading, it would significantly change how people use and interact with technology. It would likely lead to a more text-based and information-focused online culture, with less emphasis on visual media such as videos and pictures.

If videos and pictures were temporarily out of bounds at certain times of the day, it could help promote more focused and productive use of technology during those periods. It might encourage people to spend more time reading and writing, which could have benefits for cognitive development and overall well-being.

Using a phone only for writing and reflecting on past and present experiences could be a useful mindfulness practice. Reminiscing and reflecting on past experiences can be a valuable tool for personal growth and development. By limiting the phone's use to these activities, people might be more intentional and focused in their reflections, leading to deeper insights and more meaningful self-awareness.

Overall, using technology in these ways could help promote a more mindful and intentional approach to our online activities, and encourage us to use technology in ways that are more aligned with our personal values and goals.




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Re: All puppies come here [Re: redgreenvines]
    #28244340 - 03/24/23 09:32 AM (10 months, 4 hours ago)

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I have no interest in zombies, or Halloween.




good
the zombies thing is detracting in a gross way
deflating plotting ecscuse me but
it sucks
gold out of matter
anti stretching

halloween is bad in as it puts a veil of darkness and evil over and breathes bad into it


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Re: All puppies come here [Re: Ferdinando]
    #28244368 - 03/24/23 09:53 AM (10 months, 4 hours ago)

no we might as well not be dead
you'd get it worse from suicide


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Re: All puppies come here [Re: Ferdinando]
    #28244690 - 03/24/23 01:11 PM (10 months, 1 hour ago)

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no we might as well not be dead
you'd get it worse from suicide




That depends on the judge



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Re: All puppies come here [Re: Buster_Brown]
    #28244697 - 03/24/23 01:18 PM (10 months, 1 hour ago)

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no we might as well not be dead
you'd get it worse from suicide




That depends on the judge





this photo quote is such a backwardsian grammar, but it seems to suggest that after death one is judged.

the mystical meaning is that there is a reward or punishment scenario to follow,

but the real reason is that after you are gone, the story of your life is pretty much a wrap,
any judgement that follows follows, and that is that,

so it's a dumb thing people have blown all out of proportion with a built in brain cramp in the grammar.


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Re: All puppies come here [Re: redgreenvines]
    #28244827 - 03/24/23 02:26 PM (10 months, 4 minutes ago)

Yeah I think it's kinda dumb to consider Ferris Bueller's Day Off as an analogy of "on the seventh day he rested" but who's to judge?


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Re: All puppies come here [Re: Buster_Brown]
    #28244840 - 03/24/23 02:41 PM (9 months, 30 days ago)

did he think he was god too?

it seems to be a thing


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Re: All puppies come here [Re: redgreenvines]
    #28244852 - 03/24/23 02:54 PM (9 months, 30 days ago)

Asante may have described it back in the day, 'to upholster your chair with the the skin of your predecessor'.


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Re: All puppies come here [Re: Buster_Brown]
    #28244978 - 03/24/23 04:24 PM (9 months, 30 days ago)

it's gross


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Re: All puppies come here [Re: Ferdinando]
    #28245192 - 03/24/23 07:17 PM (9 months, 30 days ago)

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redgreenvines said:
I have no interest in zombies, or Halloween.




good
the zombies thing is detracting in a gross way
deflating plotting ecscuse me but
it sucks
gold out of matter
anti stretching

halloween is bad in as it puts a veil of darkness and evil over and breathes bad into it



Yes candy is the Devils food...

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Ascetic values. [Re: redgreenvines]
    #28245233 - 03/24/23 08:10 PM (9 months, 30 days ago)

If variety and oneness are the same, meditation is not necessarily about being in the moment, but about developing the skill of being in the moment, with variety clear of distractions like videos.

I personally like to do this with pen and paper available 

I don't think we need to close our eyes to meditate.

I don't think that after death we are judged.

Our merits lay bare.

And I've said to Asante before,
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"Well if you subscribe to pansychism, it sounds to me like you only love yourself."




If we're all living happy healthy lives, whatever works, works. Treating others with dignity, respect and accepting personal responsibility when the time comes for it, has gotten me through a lot of difficult situations in life.

Like a time I was treating an 8 ML water retention basin on a several hectare housing development project. It was the other dudes first day and he dropped a bag of hydrated lime around himself and inhaled. He had a reaction and he was met with ambulance.

I didn't safety prep him for masks, but I took responsibility and hosted a team discussion about the incident a week later that went over the communication lines that had been established and worked out the future management of safety concerns.

I took responsibility for my actions and learnt from it, that is the best I can say about it.


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Re: Ascetic values. [Re: sudly]
    #28245258 - 03/24/23 08:40 PM (9 months, 30 days ago)

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.....meditation is not necessarily about being in the moment, but about developing the skill of being in the moment, with variety clear of distractions like videos.

I personally like to do this with pen and paper available 

I don't think we need to close our eyes to meditate.

I don't think that after death we are judged.

Our merits lay bare.
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this all makes sense - the rest I would have to reread and qualify


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Re: Ascetic values. [Re: redgreenvines]
    #28245369 - 03/24/23 10:26 PM (9 months, 30 days ago)

The skin of others are just their shedding, and sometimes they grant knowledge valuable in practice.

Knowledge through the shared experience of decade long stories.

I was told how to make it work, and I see that I did not, but that I am on the right path, and that the gap that lay before me can be filled, but it is a labour of dedication beyond the avant-garde, and sustained for a multiple of Summers.

A dream some time away I now see the grasp of.

I also grasped across a lesser gap in my success with recent experience acting as proof of concept for more than a 0% probability of profit in my future actions.




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Re: Ascetic values. [Re: sudly]
    #28247024 - 03/26/23 04:22 AM (9 months, 29 days ago)

I'm leaning to the view that natural value likely has deterministic properties over inherent meanings.

That instead of focusing on success, we can focus on practice and experience becoming meaningful in the long term no matter what it is.

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While a deterministic view of value may still apply to some extent when it comes to the natural world (e.g. certain ecological systems or species may have inherent value based on their ability to support biodiversity or maintain ecosystem function), there is also a significant subjective and cultural component to the value we place on nature.

For example, different individuals and cultures may have different perceptions of the value of specific natural features or resources, based on factors such as aesthetics, spiritual or religious beliefs, or economic considerations.

Furthermore, our perceptions of the value of nature may also be shaped by factors such as environmental education and awareness, personal experiences with nature, and cultural and societal norms.

Therefore, while a deterministic view of value may help to explain some aspects of our relationship with nature, it is important to also recognize the subjective and cultural factors that contribute to our perceptions of the value of the natural world.




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