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Level 5 - Psyche
    #28229990 - 03/14/23 08:11 PM (10 months, 9 days ago)

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So I have followed Shroomery for quite a while and I do have to say that the things I find in here are always informative and interesting so I applaud you all who have participated to this forum and collection of greatness. So my trip report was posted on a philosophy forum a few years back due to my being interested in psychology, mind and sociology. Science in general really but yeah. So here is one of my and probably my best and most intense trip report.

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So I am putting this topic in the mind section due to my pondering about the psyche.

My last two trips have shaken me, it did not truly terrify or scar me but they put things into perspective most definitely.

I did lsd a while ago, probably a month or two ago.. It shook my entire existence and blank slated me.. I saw horror in what made me feel or think "it's all worth it", living this simple life full of complexities here on Earth, that are at least, mostly, manageable. It slapped me hard, very hard. I was the embodiment of "it"... The spectator.. The god, subconscious or Whatever you want to call it in your language or perception.

I was disassociated with my identity.. I could see in my mind a group of humans, thinking I can do whatever I want and existence is what I make out of it so build something great, I could see these people in my mind, a huge group, building stone statues/structures or having wars and doing whatever it may be that they have done in ancients past but while seeing this it was sped up like being played on a recorder and hit fast forward, it was all for it, it has been watching the entire time.. Our existence and progress.. It was with a sense of urgency of course, as if it were telling me my and the species capabilities and that something must be done or when we band together we are very powerful.

I smoked Dmt yesterday and it showed me death and the despair in what could be, the dimensions of  nothingness, chaos, the void.. as if to make me understand to the extent of what I currently can, to appreciate being on Earth here, it felt as if my brain hurt from comprehension or my trying too comprehend and stretch myself.. The feeling is painful, it showed me that when two substances mix there is no going back, so if I understood I cannot be here on earth anymore in a sense, perhaps, the reaction may not be one that is willfully sought. There were lines everywhere and patterns, I was in different dimensions in my mind, I open my eyes and it is a mixture of reality and these patterns.. I felt panicked on this journey, it is near if not incomprehensible.. I felt as if there were entities in each one of these dimensions even though I did not go into one dimension specifically, it was as if I was in an escalator or a waiting line that moves, showing me just a glimpse of all of these places.. Even the white room of nothingness, it showed me reality is what we make it, existence.. But it can be much more terrible than this, much... Much more incomprehensible.. I had already known these simple facts but the point is to understand and so it slapped me like the silly human I am, it has felt like I have died, pieces of me lost in these trips even if nothing really has been lost but instead something gained or so I hope..

I feel as if I am at the limit of my minds power in terms of figuring out myself and it's power and that is why this trip was similar to my lsd trip but just a lot more potent. I felt like lady galadriel in LOTR, seeing silver and the screaming.. It feels as if I do not have much left to pursuit that I can comprehend with this mind of homosapien and is this not the urgency one feels to continue evolving but not being able to due too societies mundane redundancy?.. Does anyone else feel at the end? Is understanding that life is entropy/agony, the beginning and the end?


On my lsd trip, this is how powerful it felt but it felt like my mind is merely a rubber band and that I was trying to stretch or snap it by understanding more beyond the everyday basic senses. I saw silver everywhere  and held my head groaning, I heard noise like how she yells in this scene,the pulsing wubbing. I felt as if I am god but also have my limits of individuality of course and I know this, this is the illusion, merely a dream of a dream.


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Re: Level 5 - Psyche [Re: Artimas]
    #28231381 - 03/15/23 10:54 PM (10 months, 8 days ago)

Woah. Has learning all of that changed how you live life now?


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Re: Level 5 - Psyche [Re: Lost at Sea]
    #28233607 - 03/17/23 11:49 AM (10 months, 7 days ago)

Yes, some things have changed from those realizations. Things like not being able to really be manipulated, a very good ability to estimate outcomes. My thought process, sometimes there is a bit of a “pessimistic” view that nothing really matters much because it is all illusion but at the same time the realization that we are what give things value for the most part so we are in control of what does or doesn’t matter, so it just reveals more of a paradoxical existence. I had already knew this previous to my ever taking hallucinogens, from doing philosophy and a-priori thinking, but like I had written before, it is the point to understand what we know. Understanding is where enlightenment is truly achieved and Pandora’s box opens with no going back.

Sometimes when I smoke weed I get into that thought process,  or “flashbacks” and I can feel how small and insignificant we are in this form. Or perhaps it is the anxious feeling of we are all alone in our collective form, floating out in deep nothingness while simultaneously caressing everything all at the same time. “Even nothing is something” Is my positive outlook on actually being in the white room within that trip.

We don’t understand how long forever is until seeing it. Which we are trapped in existence, forever. A giant cycle repeating itself. I am glad though because like the trip showed, it can be much more horrible.


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Re: Level 5 - Psyche [Re: Artimas]
    #28255926 - 03/31/23 09:40 AM (9 months, 24 days ago)

Mind works associatively - what we are experiencing on all sense channels including ideas, and overall feelings - all this rolls into associative memory at the same time that perceptive reflexes reactivate memory where aspects of experience are similar to memory content.

This happens all day long in associative mind every day (and even at night during dreams - though dreaming usually has very little live sensation so perceptions cascade from perceptions rather than from a mix of sensation and perception).

When stoned each cortical neural activation (which can be part of sensory or perceptive reflex from memory) keeps resonating longer - fading away more slowly, but coming on at the same pace - stacking up a dozen or more concurrent frames of now on top of each other - we lose sense of time passing.

Perception ramifies - branching upon branching - continuing beyond where it normally peters out. Like the terrific glow of Galadriel, which is typical of trips and dreams - every aspect of the illusion is being improved as it shines and is being re-experienced and re-beautified.

I love ramified perception, whether it is beautiful or frightsome goop, it is a gift.

Emotion can do it, drugs can do it, and when we are lucky dreams do it too.

when you dose really high you can black out, but just before blacking out, and on your return from being blacked out, the ramified and stacked up moments of perception and sensation and feelings are very intense.

By that I mean, what you are familiar with with respect to your body becomes  very strange, you have to try to remain calm in the face of this strangeness which is layered sensation mixed with ramified perception. It does not make sense, and you are not obligated to make sense out of it - just know it is the associative apparatus working normally but using an extended resonance.

With experience you can dose to the degree of layering and ramification that you are comfortable with. You do not need to break through, black out "or lose your ego" (which is a nonsense statement anyway).

click on my brainfart below to dig deeper into this.


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Re: Level 5 - Psyche [Re: Artimas]
    #28309398 - 05/06/23 05:24 PM (8 months, 18 days ago)

Thank you for sharing.

With love I will say from a certain perspective your post is very similar to all trip reports. There is nothing special here. It is a typical run of the mill trip report. However, it obviously hit you hard. Maybe it was more of a mystical experience for you.

Just reminds me of Buddhism and god realization. The unity. Allan Watts "You are it." Yin and yang. The paradox. Base reality. If you can speak of the tao, it is not the tao.

I also experience the feeling of wanting to get the next epiphany or revelation but it is just out of reach or just beyond our monkey comprehension. But if we did get all the answers, we would be bored. There would be no mystery or magic.

Maybe we are under an illusion when we think we need to evolve. It is a distraction. Ram Doss said "When you get the message. Hang up the phone."


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