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OfflineAhronZombi
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say hello to mil. spending and goodbye to free speach
    #2822973 - 06/24/04 03:54 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

yeah they sliped us a quick one, we have to get bush brownback and all the republicans out before the destroy free speach

Senate Approves Indecency Fines Hike

June 22, 2004

By a 99-1 margin, the U.S. Senate today approved an amendment that would dramatically increase indecency fines. First introduced and later re-written by Senator Sam Brownback (R-KS), the measure was attached to a $447 billion Defense Department funding bill.

Under the amendment, the maximum fine for a single indecency incident would climb from $27,500 to $275,000 for licensees, for a maximum of $3 million a day. In a significant departure from the indecency legislation passed by the House, the Senate bill does not increase the fine for air talents. That fine, which currently stands at a maximum of $11,000, has never actually been enforced. AFTRA Assistant National Executive Director for Public Policy and Strategic Planning Rebecca Rhine said, "While legitmate concerns still exist about the possible chilling effect that large broadcaster fines may place upon free speech over the airwaves, we are gratified and relieved that the legislation avoids the pitfall of fining individual performers, announcers, broadcasters and sound recording artists."

Before the new fine structure becomes law, the Senate must approve the entire defense spending bill. Differences between the Senate and House versions would then have to be ironed out in joint conference, before the measure could be sent to President Bush -- who could sign or veto it.

Also approved today was a provision by Senator Byron Dorgan (D-ND) that would delay by one year implementation of cross-media ownership rules relaxed by the FCC in June 2003. The Senate also voted in favor of an amendment by Senator Conrad Burns (R-MT) that would permit the Commission to protect small market stations hit with sky high indecency fines for airing network or syndicated programming they had no control over.


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Re: say hello to mil. spending and goodbye to free speach [Re: AhronZombi]
    #2823018 - 06/24/04 04:15 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

mil spending?


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OfflineAhronZombi
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Re: say hello to mil. spending and goodbye to free speach [Re: BleaK]
    #2823022 - 06/24/04 04:17 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

military, they hid the idecancy fines bill in a military spending bill


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Re: say hello to mil. spending and goodbye to free speach [Re: AhronZombi]
    #2823051 - 06/24/04 04:29 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

oh wow that part at the begging slipped right by me


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Re: say hello to mil. spending and goodbye to free speach [Re: AhronZombi]
    #2823383 - 06/24/04 08:42 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

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AhronZombi said:
yeah they sliped us a quick one, we have to get bush brownback and all the republicans out before the destroy free speach





They aren't doing anything new to restrict free speech. The laws and the regulations have been in place for years. They are just raising the cost of breaking the law. It's not like they are making new laws saying you can't say X Y or Z. Tin foil hat time?


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Re: say hello to mil. spending and goodbye to free speach [Re: germin8tionn8ion]
    #2824277 - 06/24/04 03:34 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

they are increasing the fines for 'crimes' which shouldn't be crimes in the first place. Rupert Murdock or Ted Turner should be able to broadcast the word 'fuck' on the networks they own whenever they want to. Or a nice set of titties, for that matter.


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Re: say hello to mil. spending and goodbye to free speach [Re: DoctorJ]
    #2824348 - 06/24/04 03:53 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

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DoctorJ said:
they are increasing the fines for 'crimes' which shouldn't be crimes in the first place. Rupert Murdock or Ted Turner should be able to broadcast the word 'fuck' on the networks they own whenever they want to. Or a nice set of titties, for that matter.




TITIES ARE BAD>>> all u women should be ASHAMED of yourselves...

hey look i got another post...


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Re: say hello to mil. spending and goodbye to free speach [Re: AhronZombi]
    #2824536 - 06/24/04 04:39 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

I'm pissed off about the fact that the government can "hide" bills inside of other bills. That's not American at all. They can pass any law that they want as long as it's covertly slipped through the system without anyone noticing.






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Re: say hello to mil. spending and goodbye to free speach [Re: Learyfan]
    #2824560 - 06/24/04 04:46 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

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I'm pissed off about the fact that the government can "hide" bills inside of other bills. That's not American at all. They can pass any law that they want as long as it's covertly slipped through the system without anyone noticing.









we need some more slaves before we can be american... oh wait thats me...
shit.. *goes back to paying taxes and being quiet*


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Re: say hello to mil. spending and goodbye to free speach [Re: Learyfan]
    #2824843 - 06/24/04 06:34 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

I'm pissed off about the fact that the government can "hide" bills inside of other bills. That's not American at all. They can pass any law that they want as long as it's covertly slipped through the system without anyone noticing.

Like the provision in the Omnibus bill that takes away all federal funding to city department of transportations that sell bus-ad space to organizations seeking change in drug policy.

Not to de-rail, but that is another example of free-speech being stifled. (Through shady legislative practices.)


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Re: say hello to mil. spending and goodbye to free speach [Re: AhronZombi]
    #2824879 - 06/24/04 06:47 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

there should be no FCC.

"The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people.

-Amendment X"


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Re: say hello to mil. spending and goodbye to free speach [Re: DoctorJ]
    #2824934 - 06/24/04 07:11 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

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DoctorJ said:
they are increasing the fines for 'crimes' which shouldn't be crimes in the first place. Rupert Murdock or Ted Turner should be able to broadcast the word 'fuck' on the networks they own whenever they want to. Or a nice set of titties, for that matter.





Yeah, yeah, yeah. And they also shouldn't be allowed to broadcast their signals through my property without my permission.


Also airplaines shouldn't be allowed to fly through my airspace without my permission.


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Re: say hello to mil. spending and goodbye to free speach [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #2824937 - 06/24/04 07:16 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

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Baby_Hitler said:
Quote:

DoctorJ said:
they are increasing the fines for 'crimes' which shouldn't be crimes in the first place. Rupert Murdock or Ted Turner should be able to broadcast the word 'fuck' on the networks they own whenever they want to. Or a nice set of titties, for that matter.





Yeah, yeah, yeah. And they also shouldn't be allowed to broadcast their signals through my property without my permission.





i agree. damn microwaves....


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Re: say hello to mil. spending and goodbye to free speach [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #2825215 - 06/24/04 09:16 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

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Baby_Hitler said:
Yeah, yeah, yeah. And they also shouldn't be allowed to broadcast their signals through my property without my permission.


Also airplaines shouldn't be allowed to fly through my airspace without my permission.




Well put  :thumbup:


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Re: say hello to mil. spending and goodbye to free speach [Re: DieCommie]
    #2825346 - 06/24/04 09:48 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

just ANOTHER unjust law that makes you want to cry in desperation for the state of the nation.

And all you can do is laugh...

:stoned:


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OfflineAhronZombi
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Re: say hello to mil. spending and goodbye to free speach [Re: AhronZombi]
    #2826006 - 06/25/04 12:32 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

well the republicans fasil to relise howard stern uncovered what they are trying to do and howard stern has made many non voters swing voters and ex republicans like me deside to vote kerry. not because we like him but to get bush out. few fail to relise stern is going to affect this election in a huge way. God bless howard stern and lenny bruce


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