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Does man manifest his own experience?
#28227179 - 03/13/23 12:39 AM (10 months, 11 days ago) |
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This is a great question..
Hidden in lies through centuries..
Only to be revealed to secret oaths and hooded elves.
Is man responsible for the idea that he is creating the world through his mind?
I learned this on Ayahuasca.
The soul is so perfect..
But it is easy to forget..
Them idle path is the way to atonement.
You don't have to do a thing it will happen on its own.. and will happen necessarily!
Shinra corporation?
Should there be one world government? Yes!
I believe that everyone of our ideas and thoughts has an effect on our 3D 4D reality block.. or otherwise known as the material universe. Plane. Base levels of strength and digital information 💁♀️
Angels love gliding angles..
And demons love puches of hatred.
Karma is for the reunion of time.
Each to their own I see.
Karma is a guide not a dharma.
Miracles and peace!
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Re: Does man manifest his own experience? [Re: BrendanFlock]
#28227185 - 03/13/23 12:42 AM (10 months, 11 days ago) |
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You will learn that the body is a projection from the soul.
Material marksmen?
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Re: Does man manifest his own experience? [Re: BrendanFlock]
#28227362 - 03/13/23 07:04 AM (10 months, 11 days ago) |
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Interesting thoughts emanating from? Sure, take aim.
-------------------- Why shouldn't the truth be stranger than fiction? Fiction, after all, has to make sense. -- Mark Twain
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Re: Does man manifest his own experience? [Re: Kickle]
#28228780 - 03/14/23 02:06 AM (10 months, 10 days ago) |
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Emanating from the source!
Emanating from my being!
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Re: Does man manifest his own experience? [Re: BrendanFlock]
#28228781 - 03/14/23 02:07 AM (10 months, 10 days ago) |
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I actually think that source and being might be the same thing?
Consciousness as ground zero..?
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Re: Does man manifest his own experience? [Re: BrendanFlock]
#28228846 - 03/14/23 03:50 AM (10 months, 10 days ago) |
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By knowing a lump of clay , all things made of clay are known
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 54. The true nature of things is to be known personally , through the eyes of clear illumination and not through a sage : what the moon exactly is , is to be known with one's own eyes ; can another make him know it?
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Maybe.. but maybe even more knowledge is being discussed that isn't fully conscious yet at this present moment in time?
Ignorance of the law..does not mean it is not acting in its lawful manner the whole of the duration of the ignorance..
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Re: Does man manifest his own experience? [Re: BrendanFlock]
#28228944 - 03/14/23 07:07 AM (10 months, 10 days ago) |
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When it manifests, it is not man anymore. This is a "the whole is greater than the sum of its parts" moment. Soul is in couplement with the divinity. Lover is the beloved at that point.
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Re: Does man manifest his own experience? [Re: BrendanFlock]
#28229166 - 03/14/23 10:28 AM (10 months, 9 days ago) |
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BrendanFlock said: I actually think that source and being might be the same thing?
Consciousness as ground zero..?
Consciousness is where being is reflected. No being, nothing to reflect. Nothing reflected, no being to see. They are connected but not the same, even tho each depends on the other. Without one, the other ceases as well. So they are each fundamental to the other, but neither fundamental on its own.
If you like what is reflected, it's easy to fully and completely be that. If you don't, don't be lazy, get to work. That's what I see anywho.
-------------------- Why shouldn't the truth be stranger than fiction? Fiction, after all, has to make sense. -- Mark Twain
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Re: Does man manifest his own experience? [Re: BrendanFlock]
#28229199 - 03/14/23 10:54 AM (10 months, 9 days ago) |
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"Does man manifest his own experience?"
That we can in a sense, to some degree, unmanifest our experience may be a clue. The manifestation is such an old habit we think it automatic and independent.
Entertaining this morning, "mind is the Buddha."
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Re: Does man manifest his own experience? [Re: syncro]
#28229979 - 03/14/23 08:06 PM (10 months, 9 days ago) |
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How do you see mind?
-------------------- Why shouldn't the truth be stranger than fiction? Fiction, after all, has to make sense. -- Mark Twain
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Re: Does man manifest his own experience? [Re: Kickle]
#28230040 - 03/14/23 08:45 PM (10 months, 9 days ago) |
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As Prajna - I am just rereading Huang Po (Zen), who describes the One Mind as all in all, samsara and nirvana, realized when concepts, elements, senses are seen as naught or none other. I see this as equivalent to Advaita, mystical Christianity, even traditional religions, for how else is God described in the highest sense? Mind is the Buddha. Mind is God.
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Re: Does man manifest his own experience? [Re: syncro]
#28230051 - 03/14/23 08:54 PM (10 months, 9 days ago) |
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Our original Buddha-Nature, is in highest truth, devoid of any atom of objectivity. It is void, omnipresent, silent, pure; it is glorious and mysterious peaceful joy - and that is all.
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This pure Mind, the source of everything, shines forever and on all with the brilliance of its own perfection.
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Re: Does man manifest his own experience? [Re: syncro]
#28230273 - 03/15/23 02:35 AM (10 months, 9 days ago) |
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The big mind in zen terms is the awareness of everything.
And the small mind is what you are focusing on.
Attention therefore can be expanded ad infinitum.
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Re: Does man manifest his own experience? [Re: syncro]
#28230365 - 03/15/23 06:51 AM (10 months, 9 days ago) |
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syncro said: As Prajna - I am just rereading Huang Po (Zen), who describes the One Mind as all in all, samsara and nirvana, realized when concepts, elements, senses are seen as naught or none other. I see this as equivalent to Advaita, mystical Christianity, even traditional religions, for how else is God described in the highest sense? Mind is the Buddha. Mind is God.
Yeah I think it can flow this way. But not always in Buddhism. I find Zen teachings to be my least favorite by and large. But I get that this is just me. Its history is rooted a bit oddly IMO
China has this habit of taking credit for all schools of Buddhism. This happened to Zen a long time ago. It's doing it again now with Tibetan Buddhism and is working very hard to take ownership of and rewrite Tibetan Buddhism. When this happens some pretty core teachings change and much is destroyed in order to accomplish this control.
Some people like the way the Chinese interpret it more. That's OK. I don't
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Re: Does man manifest his own experience? [Re: Kickle]
#28230461 - 03/15/23 08:29 AM (10 months, 8 days ago) |
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I did embellish the supernatural and the syncretism, the latter of which Po does not consider. He basically dismisses all doctrine in favor of not regarding opposites or concept at all. To me it is very much like Mahamudra which is Tibetan, transmission, tantra? The different Buddhist schools and sources confuse me by habit. The dharma of original mind though of course he claims is of the Buddha.
He would also dismiss supernatural as an erred distinction.
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Re: Does man manifest his own experience? [Re: syncro]
#28230506 - 03/15/23 09:03 AM (10 months, 8 days ago) |
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Well I understand Prajna as wisdom. And prajnaparamita the perfection of wisdom. There is an understanding that a perfectly wise mind is akin to that of a Buddha's mind. Ungrasping, untainted, etc.
But there is also Buddha body, Buddha land, etc. None of these are described as mind, although the mind is connected to the body and the land. And visa versa. The land is connected to the body. The body is connected to the mind.
If you just look at the body do you see the Buddha? As it is said, of course not. Likewise, if you just look at the mind do you see the Buddha? Of course not.
My 2cents
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Re: Does man manifest his own experience? [Re: Kickle]
#28230594 - 03/15/23 10:54 AM (10 months, 8 days ago) |
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To me it is akin to Shankara in that those are superimpositions of the one mind, or Brahman, like colors in a crystal. The body is none other than the original mind. What is mind without concept? What is body without concept? What is left may be called tathata, suchness. The Dharmakaya, or truth body, is also none other than the original mind, Huang Po paraphrased, iirc.
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Re: Does man manifest his own experience? [Re: syncro]
#28230899 - 03/15/23 04:26 PM (10 months, 8 days ago) |
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Sure not my understanding. I don't like this type of revision but I'm guessing for some it works. It is said that if a flower is not real, then a bouquet of flowers does not suddenly become real.
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Re: Does man manifest his own experience? [Re: Kickle]
#28232984 - 03/16/23 10:40 PM (10 months, 7 days ago) |
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Manifestation.. from the lowest measurements coming first to the degree where manifestation is complete.. and then that lowest measurement becomes a plateau and then we build the next plateau.. from a priori measurement.
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