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    #28215402 - 03/05/23 07:23 AM (10 months, 18 days ago)

As I've mentioned in a previous post, I'm writing a Mystical Book designed for really a beginner's audience on Mysticism. Consider it Mysticism 101. It's intended to help people more acquaint themselves with the Mystical domain and not crash upon entry into it. I experienced a big cognitive shock upon crashing into it without believing it in beforehand.

The Book is largely finished, but I'm on the stages of editing it... so bear that in mind...

I would like advice from you all, based on your psychedelic experiences, on how I can accomplish the purpose of my book and any tips?


The Purpose of the Book

1. Evoke a sense of wonder at the Reader's existence
2. Make Reality come alive through the Reader
3. Encourage the Reader to use their Imagination to open them up to their own spiritual exploration of the answer to "Why Does Reality Exist?"
4. Tantalize the Reader outside of this-domain and into the "other worlds"

The Audience

1. Psychonauts - people who have used entheogens
2. Mystically oriented people
3. People beginning their entry into Mysticism - People, like me, who grew up in a community where the spiritual domain was constantly dismissed. This is to make the group feel comfortable again, and not ashamed, to seriously explore the mystical.

Structure of the Book
It is structured, as of right now, in 17 chapters. Each chapter will be about a mystical topic. Each chapter is composed of three different types of writing to communicate the Message ideally for different types of readers: 1. a piece of art with an imaginative tagline. 2. a short parable. 3. a longer scholarly piece, where I explicate on the idea.


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Re: Book I'm writing on "Why does Reality Exist?" [Re: solarshroomster]
    #28215407 - 03/05/23 07:28 AM (10 months, 18 days ago)

Also, if you would like to be an editor of my Book, please let me know, and I'll try to include you in the process.


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Re: Book I'm writing on "Why does Reality Exist?" [Re: solarshroomster]
    #28215584 - 03/05/23 09:52 AM (10 months, 18 days ago)

I am interested to read your book and I'll let you know what resonates with my experience.


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Re: Book I'm writing on "Why does Reality Exist?" [Re: solarshroomster]
    #28215773 - 03/05/23 12:04 PM (10 months, 18 days ago)

Looks/sounds like it's gonna be a proper interesting read, looking forward to it :rockon:


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Re: Book I'm writing on "Why does Reality Exist?" [Re: solarshroomster]
    #28215879 - 03/05/23 12:59 PM (10 months, 18 days ago)

The only suggestion that I would have, is to add a chapter addressing what you disagree with about other/opposing views. And maybe you do this within the chapters.

But if I were approaching that book, I would wonder why some of the things I've seen and experienced as part of reality didn't make the cut. I would feel like aspects of a reality were indirectly being invalidated without consideration.


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Re: Book I'm writing on "Why does Reality Exist?" [Re: solarshroomster] * 1
    #28216198 - 03/05/23 05:02 PM (10 months, 18 days ago)

I would add something warning people against sharing the experiences and revelations they are having when awakening. When you finally get in that zone and everything seems so powerful and you are ecstatic, many feel compelled to share and spread this love and knowledge. But it is usually falling on deaf ears and it only serves to interrupt the process. It is very difficult to regain entry if that happens.

Whatever happens with you is for you. Don't make the assumption that these visions/thought/experiences are the be all, end all, like you are now suddenly the utmost authority on spiritual matters. Realize these things are happening because this what was needed for YOU and may not be a truth applicable to anyone else. Telling other people prematurely will only present obstacles and make it harder.

Also, in that same vein, any bad ideas, or visions, forces or anything of the like that seems evil/bad/mean/violent is not real. At best it is spotlight shining on your own weaknesses, fears, faults and MAYBE a metaphor for those. If you ever feel like you are being compelled to hurt someone or something else, IN ANY WAY, it is your own ego and fears. Spiritual/Mystical awakening is a wild ride and challenges all your previous conceptions. Any compulsion to act or think negatively (though in this state negative can be difficult to ascertain and why it is so dangerous) is wrong. Hurting yourself or anyone else is always wrong. Being aware that it is possible though so you are prepared to interpret correctly.


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Re: Book I'm writing on "Why does Reality Exist?" [Re: HagbardCeline]
    #28216308 - 03/05/23 06:02 PM (10 months, 18 days ago)

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I would add something warning people against sharing the experiences and revelations they are having when awakening. When you finally get in that zone and everything seems so powerful and you are ecstatic, many feel compelled to share and spread this love and knowledge. But it is usually falling on deaf ears and it only serves to interrupt the process. It is very difficult to regain entry if that happens.

Whatever happens with you is for you. Don't make the assumption that these visions/thought/experiences are the be all, end all, like you are now suddenly the utmost authority on spiritual matters. Realize these things are happening because this what was needed for YOU and may not be a truth applicable to anyone else. Telling other people prematurely will only present obstacles and make it harder.

Also, in that same vein, any bad ideas, or visions, forces or anything of the like that seems evil/bad/mean/violent is not real. At best it is spotlight shining on your own weaknesses, fears, faults and MAYBE a metaphor for those. If you ever feel like you are being compelled to hurt someone or something else, IN ANY WAY, it is your own ego and fears. Spiritual/Mystical awakening is a wild ride and challenges all your previous conceptions. Any compulsion to act or think negatively (though in this state negative can be difficult to ascertain and why it is so dangerous) is wrong. Hurting yourself or anyone else is always wrong. Being aware that it is possible though so you are prepared to interpret correctly.




Woah, holy smokes!!!!!! You guys did it again! Every time, I think the spiritual domain is BS, someone comes in that so eloquently says the Truth. Totally vibe with what you're saying HC, I very much get that feeling... that's why I've been so cautious about writing anything. Also, with Kickle said about "But if I were approaching that book, I would wonder why some of the things I've seen and experienced as part of reality didn't make the cut. I would feel like aspects of a reality were indirectly being invalidated without consideration." was also great.

Anyhow, HagbardCeline, you threw me in for a massive loop there. I'm definitely going to need to DM you separately to learn more.


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Re: Book I'm writing on "Why does Reality Exist?" [Re: solarshroomster]
    #28217170 - 03/06/23 10:39 AM (10 months, 17 days ago)

A couple of things came up for me just to add to ideas. One is that of spiritual experience and (my) memory. Memory does not work very well with that which is unconditioned or less well defined. Where we have impressionable experience, we can remember very well a face, a voice, some words, a location, ..., and some of those things can accompany spiritual experience, but way more often to me it is without concrete things, and though something may mean the most in an experience, the memory cannot hold it very well, therefore, momentum as in inspiration etc, may not hold.

For me, and I use the vocab a lot, it is useful then, to put grades of experience in simple categories which is taught in the yogas and elsewhere in similar ways. Qualities fall broadly into three categorites, darkness or inertia (tamas), middling, passion, activity (rajas), and the pure (sattva).

Sattva does not just mean the pure things of the world, but encompasses all spiritual experience that is good and transcendent. When I have forgotten, sattva can be recognized with some wakefulness and when some of the blissful hints at return. I identify sattva, and it is a primary goal to retain in memory and action.

Some might say there is not a goal for which to strive. I'll buy it when thought needs no hygiene, when people don't need bearings. At that point, the subtle witnessing, detachment is pure - that which witnesses is inherently sattvic. <- Perhaps good to add, as is said, mind is the Buddha, mind is of God.

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Re: Book I'm writing on "Why does Reality Exist?" [Re: syncro]
    #28217212 - 03/06/23 11:01 AM (10 months, 17 days ago)

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syncro said:
A couple of things came up for me just to add to ideas. One is that of spiritual experience and (my) memory. Memory does not work very well with that which is unconditioned or less well defined. Where we have impressionable experience, we can remember very well a face, a voice, some words, a location, ..., and some of those things can accompany spiritual experience, but way more often to me it is without concrete things, and though something may mean the most in an experience, the memory cannot hold it very well, therefore, momentum as in inspiration etc, may not hold.

For me, and I use the vocab a lot, it is useful then, to put grades of experience in simple categories which is taught in the yogas and elsewhere in similar ways. Qualities fall broadly into three categorites, darkness or inertia (tamas), middling, passion, activity (rajas), and the pure (sattva).

Sattva does not just mean the pure things of the world, but encompasses all spiritual experience that is good and transcendent. When I have forgotten, sattva can be recognized with some wakefulness and when some of the blissful hints at return. I identify sattva, and it is a primary goal to retain in memory and action.

Some might say there is not a goal for which to strive. I'll buy it when thought needs no hygiene, when people don't need bearings. At that point, the subtle witnessing, detachment is pure - that which witnesses is inherently sattvic. <- Perhaps good to add, as is said, mind is the Buddha, mind is of God.

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This really vibes with me. Thank you syncro!!! This is a topic I talk a lot about in the book. I emphasize how we "forget" upon "returning" from the mystical domain. When I was first taking mushrooms and weed, this phenomenon really surprised me. I had no experience with it. Usually, in most of my states of consciousness, I'm able to retain the memority of it. But with psychedelics, I just "forget". I may get some things proximally "okay", but the basic underlying actual mystical experience very much disappears.

I like the way they talked about magic mushrooms on Erowid:

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High Dose Effects are usually characterized by... religious revelation, spiritual awakening... One of the most interesting effects is the feeling of awakening for the first time ever from a previous state of sleep, the feeling of liberation from what is now seen as a life-long state of misunderstanding. Paradoxically, it is this new awareness that feels normal and natural and the previous fog is seen to have been unreal all along. The bemushroomed seeker can be convinced that, once gained, this awareness is impossible to lose, but inexplicably by the next day it is just a memory.

Erowid - Magic Mushrooms





The way you explain it is brilliant. I'll make sure to include it in my Book. It's perfect. Mystical experience definitely isn't concrete, so we have nothing to attach it to to explain it to upon return. This could help answer my question of "Why is this a secret?" It's partly because, when we return, we have nothing to connect the visions too. I would take it a step further though and say nothing is concrete, it's just that the beings in this world generally have a "consensus reality" from which to connect certain concepts to. Not the case with more "aberrant" experiences, but it doesn't mean those experiences are any less legit; it's just that they're different.


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Re: Book I'm writing on "Why does Reality Exist?" [Re: syncro]
    #28217223 - 03/06/23 11:08 AM (10 months, 17 days ago)

"Some might say there is not a goal for which to strive. I'll buy it when thought needs no hygiene, when people don't need bearings"


Wouldn't it stand to reason that an immortal would have an extremely thick skin and would probably feel more at ease in OTD?


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    #28217322 - 03/06/23 12:33 PM (10 months, 17 days ago)

More at ease? I don't know, but otherwise sure. It reminds of in the Gone West book, higher beings go down into various levels of hell to give help.


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Re: Book I'm writing on "Why does Reality Exist?" [Re: syncro]
    #28218430 - 03/07/23 05:11 AM (10 months, 17 days ago)

There might be a mathematical equation where x/y=c in regards to OTD that encourages silence in the form of patience in the pregnancy of the moment.


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    #28218509 - 03/07/23 07:00 AM (10 months, 17 days ago)

We wait in line to cy.


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Re: Book I'm writing on "Why does Reality Exist?" [Re: solarshroomster] * 1
    #28220732 - 03/08/23 01:03 PM (10 months, 15 days ago)

Congratulations on such an ambitious undertaking.  You have a pretty extensive table of contents, so its hard for me to say what you aren’t including, or what I might disagree with.  I believe based on my psychedelic experiences, as well as knowledge gained from researching comparative religion (especially the more esoteric traditions), NDEs, ect that the spiritual is very real, and that consciousness is fundamental.  Also that God is indeed One, as in nothing is separate from God, all are a part of that One unifying consciousness, including us.  I believe that God creates worlds (which are fundamentally mental constructs) and differentiates into limited avatars (like you and me) in order to experience things.  Probably because oneness in the void is boring and lonely.  Anyway, I have written many posts on some of this.  I disagree pretty strongly with the Christian and Eastern concepts that the world is an unfortunate accident, or ruled by the devil, and that the only valuable pursuit is to escape it through merging with Nirvana or going to heaven.  The Oneness those traditions are fundamentally trying to escape to is simply reunion with the All, which created differentiated existence in the first place, not as an unfortunate accident, but with purpose and intent.  There is more to life than merely trying to escape it.  Utopia is not possible really, as evil is part of the All.    Differentiation, and the challenge, struggle, and even horror that goes along with that, is necessary to experience the positive aspects of love, triumph over adversity, friendship, family, power, achievement, knowledge, ect.  The good is dependent on the bad, and vice versa, 2 poles of the same thing.  That being said, there are rules of moral conduct, set up to give the game balance, that cannot be broken.  We do personally reap what we sow at some level, and moral conduct, the acquisition of knowledge, ect is rewarded by leveling up in the game.  Ultimately it is just a game though that God is playing with ourselves, but the game is the only one in town, so it is as meaningful as it gets, even if they are just stories that will vanish like a wisp when we finish one and move on to the next.


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Re: Book I'm writing on "Why does Reality Exist?" [Re: solarshroomster]
    #28221724 - 03/09/23 02:22 AM (10 months, 15 days ago)

Does the book answer the question in the title or is it more of a description of reality? Either way this is very interesting stuff, good luck on the endeavour.


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    #28221797 - 03/09/23 05:50 AM (10 months, 15 days ago)

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Does the book answer the question in the title or is it more of a description of reality? Either way this is very interesting stuff, good luck on the endeavour.




I believe it does, but only indirectly. I want the reader to become aware that life itself is the real story, and they hold the answers with inside themselves. That they are Reality. So, I try to encourage spiritual awakening that will lead to an “answer”… I admit in the book, it’s ineffable though and therefore can only be evoked, not expressed in words. Reality is not limited to the traditional models we’ve used, and the “answer” requires us to see with a new model.

As for a direct answer in this space-time material world, I do not provide the answer. Not even close. I’m too cautious about pinning anything down for sure. I almost think there’s some discordian principal going on where one theory is unraveled for another, after it seems so promising.


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Re: Book I'm writing on "Why does Reality Exist?" [Re: solarshroomster]
    #28221860 - 03/09/23 07:10 AM (10 months, 14 days ago)

I'm often looping in that. :lol:

Useful to identify a discordian principle. On the side of a corrective or guiding influence may be that we go beyond the need to decide.


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    #28221907 - 03/09/23 07:59 AM (10 months, 14 days ago)

Some yesterday certain words come up and sync, excellent and complete. The next day or even on the same day I say, what was that now? Darn! Even remembering the same words doesn't pull the effect, perhaps showing the the form is not the force.


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    #28221921 - 03/09/23 08:09 AM (10 months, 14 days ago)

Again using word in higher law is different, as word is cultivative of that aligned.


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