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Re: Updated Bottle Tek New and improved [Re: dna24] 7
#28161782 - 01/28/23 06:29 PM (1 year, 3 months ago) |
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Re: Updated Bottle Tek New and improved [Re: bakedbeings] 7
#28161878 - 01/28/23 07:24 PM (1 year, 3 months ago) |
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So apparently Pan cyans grow really fast
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Re: Updated Bottle Tek New and improved [Re: SirPsycho] 3
#28163438 - 01/29/23 07:39 PM (1 year, 3 months ago) |
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just wanted to mention that im finding that the WT pairs well with bottles. no restriction on horizontal growth
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Re: Updated Bottle Tek New and improved [Re: bakedbeings] 2
#28163807 - 01/30/23 05:08 AM (1 year, 3 months ago) |
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You don't even need the water. Muda used to run them in just a regular tub. Munchauzen has some examples on his YT too
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Re: Updated Bottle Tek New and improved [Re: SirPsycho] 2
#28163850 - 01/30/23 06:30 AM (1 year, 3 months ago) |
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its been pretty dry around here lately so the water is a safety measure. also means i dont have to run a full tub. im noticing that the WT is kinda automated. if the tub is full and ambient conditions are humid the water stays put, if half the bottles get removed and harvested and ambient conditions dry up it will start evaporating to fill the void. pretty kewl
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Re: Updated Bottle Tek New and improved [Re: bakedbeings] 4
#28188101 - 02/15/23 05:22 AM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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Finally got some ESS that produce gills but it isn't the typical ESS pheno.
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Re: Updated Bottle Tek New and improved [Re: SirPsycho] 2
#28192010 - 02/17/23 05:41 PM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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Re: Updated Bottle Tek New and improved [Re: SirPsycho] 1
#28219666 - 03/07/23 08:38 PM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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What's the difference between this and an all-in-one grow kit if you make it yourself?
Not trying to be rude, just trying to better understand this tek. I know Muda made huge contributions to mush cult.
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Re: Updated Bottle Tek New and improved [Re: Floret]
#28219685 - 03/07/23 08:53 PM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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Floret said: What's the difference between this and an all-in-one grow kit if you make it yourself?
I would say partly because they are being inoculated with liquid culture, colonized grain or agar wedges instead of shooting spore solution into a pre-made bag where one canβt be sure about the sterility. The process requires agar work up front and sterile technique to inoculate.
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Re: Updated Bottle Tek New and improved [Re: Floret]
#28219774 - 03/07/23 09:55 PM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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Floret said: What's the difference between this and an all-in-one grow kit if you make it yourself?
Not trying to be rude, just trying to better understand this tek. I know Muda made huge contributions to mush cult.
These bottles are already mixed, so you inject it, wait for full colonization, maybe case the top and fruit it from the jar.
All in one bags are usually layered, you inject the grains and then mix them into the substrate after they colonize, then drop it into a monotub or fruit from the bag.
The bottles are just a cup or two of grains, whereas most bags are 2-3 quarts of grains, so yields will be lower in bottles.
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Re: Updated Bottle Tek New and improved [Re: Floret]
#28220042 - 03/08/23 04:09 AM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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Floret said: What's the difference between this and an all-in-one grow kit if you make it yourself?
Not trying to be rude, just trying to better understand this tek. I know Muda made huge contributions to mush cult.
Shape and size of container is the only difference. I often describe it as AIO bags just done in jars or PF tek on steroids.
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Re: Updated Bottle Tek New and improved [Re: SirPsycho] 1
#28220156 - 03/08/23 06:24 AM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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SirPsycho said:
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Floret said: What's the difference between this and an all-in-one grow kit if you make it yourself?
Not trying to be rude, just trying to better understand this tek. I know Muda made huge contributions to mush cult.
Shape and size of container is the only difference. I often describe it as AIO bags just done in jars or PF tek on steroids.
You guys aren't shooting spore solution into them either, like most AIO grow bag instructions.
At least I don't think you are. I haven't read the entire thread.
It's LC, colonized grain or agar wedges usually, if I'm not mistaken?
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Re: Updated Bottle Tek New and improved [Re: Floret]
#28220177 - 03/08/23 06:42 AM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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Floret said: What's the difference between this and an all-in-one grow kit if you make it yourself?
thats the difference
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SirPsycho said:
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Floret said: What's the difference between this and an all-in-one grow kit if you make it yourself?
Not trying to be rude, just trying to better understand this tek. I know Muda made huge contributions to mush cult.
Shape and size of container is the only difference. I often describe it as AIO bags just done in jars or PF tek on steroids.
You guys aren't shooting spore solution into them either, like most AIO grow bag instructions.
At least I don't think you are. I haven't read the entire thread.
It's LC, colonized grain or agar wedges usually, if I'm not mistaken?

I guess, but plenty of people run AIO bags they made and inoculate with LC, agar or grain as well.
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Re: Updated Bottle Tek New and improved [Re: SirPsycho]
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SirPsycho said:
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SirPsycho said:
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Floret said: What's the difference between this and an all-in-one grow kit if you make it yourself?
Not trying to be rude, just trying to better understand this tek. I know Muda made huge contributions to mush cult.
Shape and size of container is the only difference. I often describe it as AIO bags just done in jars or PF tek on steroids.
You guys aren't shooting spore solution into them either, like most AIO grow bag instructions.
At least I don't think you are. I haven't read the entire thread.
It's LC, colonized grain or agar wedges usually, if I'm not mistaken?

I guess, but plenty of people run AIO bags they made and inoculate with LC, agar or grain as well.
I meant as opposed to a purchased kit. I donβt think folks are buying grow kits online so they can inoculate with agar.
Anyway, sorry to derail. Solid tek. The results speak for themselves
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Would you say...
macmerdin pan cakes:muda bottles as sgfc:water tub?
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macmerdin pan cakes:muda bottles as sgfc:water tub?
Not sure what you mean about as SGFC. Bottle TEK isn't a fruiting chamber or a particular container.
It's a play on commercial myco bottles used for growing things like King Oyster and Enoki. Basically a jar with both a nutrient source and a water source. You can use w/e jar you want, you can put w/e you want in it, you can inoculate it anyway you want, you can fruit it anyway you want.
Muda went over all of this in the write up.
Commercial operation bottle growing for reference.

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I meant as opposed to a purchased kit. I donβt think folks are buying grow kits online so they can inoculate with agar.
Anyway, sorry to derail. Solid tek. The results speak for themselves 
TBF, they did specify about making their own.
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Re: Updated Bottle Tek New and improved [Re: SirPsycho] 1
#28223190 - 03/10/23 01:54 AM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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macmerdin pan cakes:muda bottles as sgfc:water tub?
Not sure what you mean about as SGFC. Bottle TEK isn't a fruiting chamber or a particular container.
I should have explained myself a little better. I meant it as an analogy like the kind you get on an American high school standard aptitude test. Macmerdin pan cakes are to muda bottles as sgfcs are to water tubs? It wasn't the best analogy anyway 
Macmerdin made these pf cakes but added manure and maybe hay, I can't remember exactly the recipe but it was similar to an all in one grow for pans. Then he would top fruit them nestled in the perlite of a sgfc. Muda bottles are a more sophisticated an all in one grow where you top fruit in a humidity chamber.
At least that's my understanding of it? My comprehension is not too good sometimes and stuff on here gets confusing.
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Re: Updated Bottle Tek New and improved [Re: Floret] 1
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Floret said:
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SirPsycho said:
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Floret said: Would you say...
macmerdin pan cakes:muda bottles as sgfc:water tub?
Not sure what you mean about as SGFC. Bottle TEK isn't a fruiting chamber or a particular container.
I should have explained myself a little better. I meant it as an analogy like the kind you get on an American high school standard aptitude test. Macmerdin pan cakes are to muda bottles as sgfcs are to water tubs? It wasn't the best analogy anyway 
Macmerdin made these pf cakes but added manure and maybe hay, I can't remember exactly the recipe but it was similar to an all in one grow for pans. Then he would top fruit them nestled in the perlite of a sgfc. Muda bottles are a more sophisticated an all in one grow where you top fruit in a humidity chamber.
At least that's my understanding of it? My comprehension is not too good sometimes and stuff on here gets confusing.
Nah, they're both the same thing. You can fruit Muda bottles in an SGFC and macmerdin cakes with a dome.
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Re: Updated Bottle Tek New and improved [Re: SirPsycho]
#28224302 - 03/10/23 06:57 PM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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Then what's the difference between the two?
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