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Re: At what point should we consider nationalizing vital industries? [Re: Bigbadwooof] * 2
    #28217800 - 03/06/23 06:20 PM (10 months, 17 days ago)

It caused chaos, and chaos is good for authoritarians. People that have no stability in their lives are more willing to give up freedoms just to know that they will, indeed, have a place to sleep tonight.

That was the point of Hitler's brownshirts before he seized power-- they started riots, they fought people in the street, they generally created mayhem and people were willing to go along with hitler when he promised that he alone could fix the problem. And, when he did take power, he had the leadership of the brownshirts (who were his people) arrested and executed. They did their job as chaos monkeys, and they were no longer necessary.

You'd think the proud boys (and Marge Three Name) would learn the lessons of history, but I digress.

Putin is the authoritarian in this situation.


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Re: At what point should we consider nationalizing vital industries? [Re: Kryptos] * 3
    #28218578 - 03/07/23 08:18 AM (10 months, 16 days ago)

It can’t just be the proud boys. You need the utter economic devastation of post WW1 Germany, the political chaos of the post-Kaiser Weimar Republic, and the weird amalgamation of power struggles between the insurgent communists, the old world aristocracy, the petit bourgeoisie, and yeah, the workers who doesn’t necessarily hate the idea of communism but absolutely do hate the Jews and gypsies.

But we’ll get there


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Re: At what point should we consider nationalizing vital industries? [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #28218662 - 03/07/23 10:02 AM (10 months, 16 days ago)

Only Putin can save us from that disgusting mess!

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Re: At what point should we consider nationalizing vital industries? [Re: mycosis] * 2
    #28218989 - 03/07/23 01:21 PM (10 months, 16 days ago)

Putin is a direct result of that dynamic, in a similar way that Hitler was.

Couldn’t let the communists take Germany, so instead you prop up a woefully inadequate and unpopular Weimar Republic, whose failures fertilized the fields that fascism would grow from.

Make no mistake, if we could do it all over again we wouldn’t do it any differently. Maybe we’d try a little harder to kill the baby Soviets in their crib via the whites.


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Re: At what point should we consider nationalizing vital industries? [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #28219219 - 03/07/23 03:40 PM (10 months, 16 days ago)

It’s all fun and games until a Gypsy steals your T-72. :crankey:


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