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Kitchen Sink Faucets - Why Are They Such Shit? 1
#28141568 - 01/15/23 04:52 PM (1 year, 13 days ago) |
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I have gone through so many kitchen sink faucets, and I really try to buy decent hardware, but it's just been unreasonably difficult to source reasonably priced fixtures that don't use plastic parts in or around the cartridge and other connections that prematurely fail. Kohler, Kraus, Delta, Moen, Hansgrohe... all of these have failed me for one reason or another; typically a cartridge problem, but I've had other parts fail, like the connection between the swivel portion and the stationary portion of the shaft.
And these crappy faucets are still going for $200+ on the regular.  
After getting sick of my latest and most expensive faucet leaking at the swivel point, which I've repeatedly tightened down with a small hex wrench that seems to alleviate the issue only for a week at most and has become less effective over time (it begins to loosen and starts to leak as soon as you start swiveling the mechanism), I'm going gangbusters spendy and paying up for some Made in USA brand that offers a lifetime warranty on its parts, advertisers a theoretically indestructible cartridge and is universally acclaimed across several different distributor's review pages.
Behold!

This Brizo Litze Articulating Faucet is priced at $1233 from the manufacturer. Most places have it for just under $900 before tax, and fortunately I found an outlet running a New Years 20% off promotion and saved $177 more, for a total cost after tax to California of $777. Definitely the most I've ever spent on a faucet, and I hope it can actually hold together. If it doesn't, at least it is apparently backed by that lifetime parts warranty I should be able to claim on. I have literally spent as much as this faucet cost on the last three faucets combined that I've had to install over the past 10 years in this house (not to mention the myriad of simpler faucets I've installed on the rental properties I manage). If this one can actually keep the water flowing without breaking and/or the manufacturer effectively honors any breakage with a replacement, I'm going to consider it money well spent.
How about you... what are your favorite faucets? Have you found one that JUST WORKS? I was also looking at some of the Grohe faucets, but they're equally as spendy as the Brizo one I choose, and I didn't care for their designs as much.
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Re: Kitchen Sink Faucets - Why Are They Such Shit? [Re: geokills] 1
#28141737 - 01/15/23 06:29 PM (1 year, 12 days ago) |
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Unfortunately I don't have an answer, I can only buy on the cheap and hope for good luck. NOTHING is made well anymore for the most part, appliances, electronics, all designed to fail pretty much. I share your frustration...
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Re: Kitchen Sink Faucets - Why Are They Such Shit? [Re: geokills]
#28143098 - 01/16/23 03:19 PM (1 year, 12 days ago) |
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Damn! Now thats a kitchen faucet! 
I agree with your experience, they just do not last very long. The kitchen faucet does get yhe most abuse thou, i will say that. Moen and American Standard are my favorite brands. I feel like the quality is pretty decent. But yeah, lots of plastic parts in them....
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Re: Kitchen Sink Faucets - Why Are They Such Shit? [Re: geokills]
#28187385 - 02/14/23 04:54 PM (11 months, 7 days ago) |
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I buy Am. Std., Moen or Delta. Depends on the price (and my mood) at the time. All last for years in my apartment building, but my tenants take pretty good care of their apts.
I'll spend up to $200 for them.
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Re: Kitchen Sink Faucets - Why Are They Such Shit? [Re: Forrester] 1
#28193155 - 02/18/23 02:26 PM (11 months, 3 days ago) |
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Unfortunately, it is more the water quality that destroys the rubber parts. Always register your new hardware, most major brands have lifetime warranty. They will send you new replacement parts at no cost.
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Re: Kitchen Sink Faucets - Why Are They Such Shit? [Re: Not So Psily] 1
#28196856 - 02/20/23 11:34 PM (11 months, 18 hours ago) |
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We bought a Kraus maybe 5 years ago, and it has leaked several times due to hardware failures but the company has always honored its lifetime warranty - something I am beginning to have a ton of respect for.
That faucet looks pretty sweet Geo! We are renovating our kitchen this year and my wife has her eyes on a $5,000 faucet that dispenses sparkling water.
https://us.zipwater.com/
Am I ok with buying a 5K faucet? I dunno, fucking hell that’s a lot for a faucet I hope it doesn’t start leaking
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Re: Kitchen Sink Faucets - Why Are They Such Shit? [Re: ManianFH] 1
#28198801 - 02/22/23 09:05 AM (10 months, 30 days ago) |
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A faucet that dispenses boiling or ice cold water on demand is pretty cool, and $5,000 is a steep price to pay for it! 
Here's my old faucet, which I liked quite a bit, until it started leaking...
So I finally received the new faucet, and spent a couple of hours wrestling the old one out of the cramped space in which is was mounted. The following picture is with the new faucet installed, I was too dedicated to destroying the old one to take a picture underneath the sink before I got it loose.

Because our granite counter has a crack running behind the faucet and water was perpetually leaking from the faucet down onto the shaft/nut where it was mounted, the entire thing was totally frozen. I left my angled/articulating faucet wrench at another property, so I tried jiggling it around for quite a while, even attempting to see if I could use my reciprocating saw to slice the thing clean off the top (didn't have enough depth to do so without damaging the counter top), and finally hammering away at it with a crowbar for 30 more minutes before it broke free.

Happy to have it in, but man I hope it doesn't break, even with the lifetime warranty... because frankly, just having to replace the damn thing is such a literal pain in the neck!
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Re: Kitchen Sink Faucets - Why Are They Such Shit? [Re: geokills]
#28199017 - 02/22/23 11:00 AM (10 months, 30 days ago) |
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Cool pics man 
Such a sexy faucet. I really hope it doesnt break or leak. For that price tag, i would imagine its gonna last a long time thou
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Re: Kitchen Sink Faucets - Why Are They Such Shit? [Re: LogicaL Chaos] 2
#28200023 - 02/22/23 10:55 PM (10 months, 29 days ago) |
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Lol nice Geo! No joke that story gave me flashbacks of so many different home projects, won’t even get started 
Quick update on the Zipwater - I reached out to their team asking about lifetime warranties, they got back to me saying they offered a two year. So we found a Grous? Faucet that does the same thing (also sparkling water ;D) for $2900 with a lifetime warranty. It looks nearly identical as well! I can actually feel ok with a $2900 faucet, for some reason haha
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Re: Kitchen Sink Faucets - Why Are They Such Shit? [Re: ManianFH] 2
#28200825 - 02/23/23 02:47 PM (10 months, 29 days ago) |
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Two year warranty, laaame. It'll be sure to break right at 25 months! 
Nice job finding a cheaper, better insured product!
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Re: Kitchen Sink Faucets - Why Are They Such Shit? [Re: Not So Psily]
#28215663 - 03/05/23 10:47 AM (10 months, 19 days ago) |
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Quote:
Not So Psily said: Unfortunately, it is more the water quality that destroys the rubber parts. Always register your new hardware, most major brands have lifetime warranty. They will send you new replacement parts at no cost.
I've noticed we're replacing both bathroom and kitchen faucets much more frequently. def fill out the warranty.
Also check your water pressure, if too high it can lead to failure sooner as well.
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Re: Kitchen Sink Faucets - Why Are They Such Shit? [Re: Renoraines]
#28216914 - 03/06/23 07:25 AM (10 months, 18 days ago) |
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You make a good point on water pressure. I have a regulator on the lines at the home, set to the maximum recommended threshold, because I do like my water pressure g'damnit! 
I kind of thought dialing back on the pressure could help save these sink faucets, or at least keep them in good working order for a little longer than I've been experiencing (they typically start crapping out at 2-3 years)... but on the other hand, I have no regulator on the lines that go into my garden hoses and exterior irrigation systems, and those never seem to fail. I understand the cartridges that mix hot/cold as well as the swivel/positioning functions and all add complexity and additional points of failure for the interior fixtures, but sheesh, I sure wish we could get some bullet proof stuff made. I'm willing to pay for it!
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Re: Kitchen Sink Faucets - Why Are They Such Shit? [Re: geokills]
#28216978 - 03/06/23 08:15 AM (10 months, 18 days ago) |
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Yeah, good water pressure is a selling point for me. Not trying to have a shower that drops water like a senile old man trying to pee.
do you remove the regulators that come in the faucets? I have to think those may add some extra wear.
Faucets have truly gone to shit. We've bought nice, and medium ones and they all seem to suck equally anymore.
Strange thing is we have rentals, and in a few of the lower end ones we buy cheap ugly ones. They last way longer than the nice shit my wife picks out. So damn frustrating.
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Re: Kitchen Sink Faucets - Why Are They Such Shit? [Re: Renoraines]
#28218524 - 03/07/23 07:20 AM (10 months, 17 days ago) |
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I do remove the regulators in my shower heads, but not on the sinks. I see what you're saying about the potential added pressure possibly adding some extra wear to the unit, but if my sinks sprayed any harder they'd be making an awful mess anytime I used them. 
I also manage a handful of rentals, and you're right, the cheapo sink faucets tend to take more of a beating for longer. I still have to replace them fairly often, but it seems I replace my own even more often on average... although to be fair we give our own faucets a pretty good beating, cooking every day we're home.
On the rental faucets, I typically buy an inexpensive pullout, and although the faucet will often continue to function with regard to water spray and stoppage, the pull out portion is usually the first thing to stop holding tight. Either the resistance hold/clip where the head should lock in just wears down, or the weights on the hose underneath are woefully inadequate (or get stuck on other items under the sink). For this reason, I always look for magnet assisted docking systems on my own fixtures.
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Re: Kitchen Sink Faucets - Why Are They Such Shit? [Re: geokills]
#28295732 - 04/26/23 05:38 AM (8 months, 29 days ago) |
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Hey, mine looks a lot like your old one. No leaks after 3 years, but the magnet is not strong enough so it pops out if I barely touch it. This has led to wear on the nozzle when it hits objects in the sink. The nozzle is just plastic covered by metal, and these sharp bits of metal poking out is not nice.
How's that new one working out in terms of nozzle fixture?
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Re: Kitchen Sink Faucets - Why Are They Such Shit? [Re: Bismillah] 1
#28295825 - 04/26/23 07:28 AM (8 months, 29 days ago) |
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So far so good. No leaks, the Brizo holds firm to positioning. The magnet that helps dock the sprayer could be a little bit stronger I suppose, but I also wouldn't want it to be too difficult to remove, so I think they found an appropriate balance. It also uses the stationary flanges on the arm in addition to the magnet for support, so it usually won't fall out of place from a light knock, but I have knocked it loose once or twice with wild motion (swinging a double-burner sized rectangular flat-top pan around for cleaning). No damage to the finish of the faucet/nozzle though, the golden textured part of the nozzle is fairly thick metal. Being textured, any minor knicks would probably go largely unnoticed as well.
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