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I just quit all psychedelics and weed for good to save my marriage
#28216687 - 03/05/23 10:11 PM (10 months, 18 days ago) |
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This is probably one of my last posts on the shroomery.
I am not in a good place. Just cut down my flowering cannabis plants, threw out jars of mushrooms, my dmt and mescaline extract. These substances played a huge role in my life (in a spiritual way, not in a "I need to get my fix" kind of way), but my family is priority.
For a couple of months I felt that my wife is becoming more and more aloof towards me. It probably all started way earlier with the pandemic and me loosing my job. This morning I confronted her again with my suspicion that there's something wrong. I did that before, but she was always "too tired" or said "let's talk about that later, I am busy". After a bit of conversation this morning she told me that she doesn't love me anymore, which was quite a blow in the guts.
She listed many things about me that irritate her. Things that I don't think are fair. Things that make me seem like an asshole. She never really made clear before, that there are things I do that pose major issues for her. It feels like she sees someone completely different in me than I do when I look into the mirror. Besides many other things she listed, she said drugs are my priority and that I don't care about the family. We got two kids that mean the world to me. I would die for them. I also love my wife, even though she changed her views drastically within the last few years. We all change, so that's ok for me.
The thing is that a divorce would mean that I would have to leave the country and my family behind. I didn't grow up here, she did. I grew up on the other side of the globe. She wouldn't allow me to take the kids with me. Just thinking of leaving them behind breaks my heart. It would literally kill me.
I don't know what I expect from posting this here. I got no one to talk to about this other than my wife, so maybe I just want to be heard. My whole world crumbles and I don't know how to go forward from here. It's very difficult to not feel hopeless.
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Re: I just quit all psychedelics and weed for good to save my marriage [Re: Anonymous #1]
#28216721 - 03/05/23 11:08 PM (10 months, 18 days ago) |
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Dig and builds the best of worlds for your family and yourself.
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Re: I just quit all psychedelics and weed for good to save my marriage [Re: Anonymous #1] 1
#28216722 - 03/05/23 11:11 PM (10 months, 18 days ago) |
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Are you both going to go to couple's therapy? Aside from the drug use, what is it that she doesn't like about you?
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Re: I just quit all psychedelics and weed for good to save my marriage [Re: uninc4life2010]
#28216754 - 03/06/23 12:59 AM (10 months, 18 days ago) |
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So just to elaborate on drug use. I enjoy one bowl of weed in the evening and an evening of tripping on my own (while everyone sleeps) every 1-2 weeks.
Apart from my drug use she mentioned a lot of things I do not recognize, when I look at myself. She basically says that I am lazy, because I am unemployed at the moment (got a video interview on Wednesday as we plan to go to my home country). I got retrenched from my previous job due to covid and then the pandemic followed, which made it impossible for me to find a new job. Besides that my visa was getting changed to a spousal visa which doesn't allow me to work in this country. This change took more than two years to be finalized as the authorities here were overwhelmed with the situation. Finding a new job after this got finalized and changing my visa back to a work visa would likely take another year or two and cost a fortune. Seeing that it was always the plan to leave to my home country for my children to have a better future, I decided to do renovations on the house and take care of the kids during my remaining time here. I have always worked a lot, doing overtime, working during weekends, before the pandemic. I did jobs here like working in a callcenter which is nobodies dream job, but due to regulations I can only do certain jobs in this country. I really worked to make life work, but she seemed to have forgotten and reminding her doesn't help.
When I asked her previously what's wrong she suggested couples therapy, but I thought we can just improve our relationship by improving our communication. I wasn't aware of the picture that she painted of me in her head. If I would have known that I am the main issue, I wouldn't have dismissed therapy. Now I would go, but it feels like she made up her mind and it's probably too late. I still offered it.
In my home country there's support from the government if you have children. I paid in taxes for quite a while and it's a normal thing to apply for this support, so I intend to do that. She thinks I am looking for handouts by the government and doesn't think it's right to use that money.
She basically says that I am a lazy bum that doesn't care about the family but only about myself. I feel that I do not deserve that. I do everything for my familiy. My children's wellbeing comes first. I put a lot of effort in teaching them values to be good and responsible people. She's working, so she doesn't notice I guess.
She feels that I don't appreciate her going to work, but I do. And I have highlighted that many times. I try to do everything she asks me for, but it doesn't seem like it's enough. I also offer things like giving her a massage or taking the children out, so she can relax a bit and have some time for herself.
One thing that is also an issue is the fact that she got into all covid, G5, NWO, etc you can think of conspiracy theories and I didn't. Sometimes I got quite passionate about my standpoint which usually resulted in a fight. I learned to pick my battles though and avoided these topics even though they greatly influenced our family life. We couldn't go to my home country last year, because she didn't want the vaccination for example, so we postponed it till now.
Then she recently rediscovered her Christian faith. When we met we both didn't submit to organized religion. In fact we met 12 years ago on NIN.com. I still don't follow any religion (other than my own little religion of which psychedelics were part of, but which I kept to myself) and I don't see that change. And it's fine, she can practice it, but it kind of annoys me that she started to read the bible to the kids and teach them religious songs, while telling me I smoke the devils lattice and speak to demons while tripping. My position on religion and my children is that they should be free to choose to believe whatever they want instead of being pushed into a religion before they actually know what it's all about. That was a factor too I guess.
When I am at home I barely take a brake. There's always stuff to do in the garden, in the house or with the kids. I don't think I am a bad father, I didn't think I have been a crappy husband. I gave up drinking and smoking cigarettes a long time ago. I never cheated on my wife. I never hit her or the children. I wanted to be someone she feels she can talk to, that she feels supported by. I saw us as a team, playing together to raise our children. It hurts to have realized that I seem to be the opposite of what I tried to be for her.
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Re: I just quit all psychedelics and weed for good to save my marriage [Re: Anonymous #1] 1
#28216788 - 03/06/23 03:24 AM (10 months, 18 days ago) |
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She's obviously crazy teaching children the bible and saying things like devils lettuce. Maybe you are not the whole problem my friend. Try taking some mdma together and then talking about your issues, mdma is great for couples therapy
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Re: I just quit all psychedelics and weed for good to save my marriage [Re: Anonymous #3]
#28216809 - 03/06/23 04:38 AM (10 months, 18 days ago) |
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I would try the mdma therapy, but I won't even suggest it to her. Somehow she changed her opinion about any drug use. I use these substances since more than 2 decades and she knew about it when we met and tolerated it ever since. Not too long ago she actually seemed interested in trying mushrooms with me to see what I am so fascinated about. Something happened and she's no longer interested. She never told me what has changed her mind.
I thought about possible solutions, but they all seem to be connected to lot's of suffering especially for my kids. I am affraid this will ultimately end in divorce, me returning to my home country, leaving my children behind with my wife, working my ass off and sending money to my children each month.
It breaks my heart to just think of having to have skype conversations with my children and no other kind of contact.
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Re: I just quit all psychedelics and weed for good to save my marriage [Re: Anonymous #1] 2
#28216830 - 03/06/23 05:58 AM (10 months, 18 days ago) |
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Sounds like a sad situation brother. It seems like you guys are on different paths.
Is there a way you guys can get back on track? Are you interested in walking the path she has chosen?
Maybe you guys have just grown apart and trying to reconcile is just going to prolong the pain of the situation.
Do what it takes to be there for your kids tho. They need you.
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Re: I just quit all psychedelics and weed for good to save my marriage [Re: Markamello] 5
#28216838 - 03/06/23 06:11 AM (10 months, 18 days ago) |
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This probably won't help you, but bible and 5g and chips in vaccines etc. you gotta be really brainwashed for that shit. Problem probably isn't in you.
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Re: I just quit all psychedelics and weed for good to save my marriage [Re: Markamello]
#28216851 - 03/06/23 06:24 AM (10 months, 18 days ago) |
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Thank you Markamello and everyone else who chimed in.
I wouldn't mind trying (and if just for the kids) and I actually begged and pleaded to find a way, but even though she hasn't said it yet, I feel she's not really interested.
Maybe she's affraid of moving to another continent and just desperately tries to avoid it, I don't know.
I won't be able to start following the Christian faith. The concept just doesn't agree with me and I would just be another hypocrite if I did. Conspiracy theories are interesting and there's probably even some truth to some, but I find it's a waste of thoughts to occupy my mind with things I don't know whether they are true or not. I prefer to think about things that influence my life and try to keep my thoughts positive instead of living in fear of "them" whoever they are. I feel life's too short for these kind of things. I'd rather spend my time with my children.
So walking this path with her wouldn't work for me. I tried to coexist and tolerate her ideas, but now that she keeps on telling me that whatever I do is not enough it's starting to take a toll.
The kids definitely need me. I grew up as a child of divorced parents and it wasn't really fun. I don't want them to have a similar experience growing up with the difference that I would be 20000 kilometers away from them.
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Re: I just quit all psychedelics and weed for good to save my marriage [Re: Anonymous #4]
#28216854 - 03/06/23 06:26 AM (10 months, 18 days ago) |
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Anonymous #4 said: This probably won't help you, but bible and 5g and chips in vaccines etc. you gotta be really brainwashed for that shit. Problem probably isn't in you.
Yeah she started to mingle with some very weired people and I think she just wanted to feel like she belongs to some kind of community.
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Re: I just quit all psychedelics and weed for good to save my marriage [Re: Anonymous #1]
#28216877 - 03/06/23 06:50 AM (10 months, 18 days ago) |
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Anonymous #4 said: This probably won't help you, but bible and 5g and chips in vaccines etc. you gotta be really brainwashed for that shit. Problem probably isn't in you.
Yeah she started to mingle with some very weired people and I think she just wanted to feel like she belongs to some kind of community.
Wouldn't be surprised if the idea of drugs are bad mmmkay etc. came from outside.
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Re: I just quit all psychedelics and weed for good to save my marriage [Re: Anonymous #1]
#28216889 - 03/06/23 07:04 AM (10 months, 18 days ago) |
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My best friend wanted to do shrooms with me, untill his girlfriend told him not to. She's very anti drug. So my friend will never get to experience the love of the universe because his GF whispered poison in his ear.
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Re: I just quit all psychedelics and weed for good to save my marriage [Re: Anonymous #1] 1
#28217020 - 03/06/23 08:55 AM (10 months, 18 days ago) |
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"I don't know what I expect from posting this here. I got no one to talk to about this other than my wife, so maybe I just want to be heard. My whole world crumbles and I don't know how to go forward from here. It's very difficult to not feel hopeless."
As a divorced father I hear and feel this pain.
In part, she may be expressing her desire and need to receive more attention from you. A common difficult aspect of marriage and LTR's is that one can become isolated and dependent on one person to meet most (or all) of their social and sexual needs. The belief one can have an "emotional affair" reveals how taboo it is to depend on people other than a partner.
Marriages can become boring & monotonous, especially lacking meaningful intimate relationships outside of the marriage. As you say, it appears she wants to belong to a community. Humans need diversity. The older we get the more prone to stagnation we are. Our social circle can become microscopic.
Aside from getting a job, you might ask her what she wants from you, in regard to "not caring about the family." I suspect there's much more to her unhappiness than any irritation she feels towards you, or her claim drugs are your priority. She's saying she isn't your priority. It's not about drugs.
When our partner says, "I don't love you anymore" it's a result of a long period of suffering. She's been hiding her secret a long time.
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We all are secret-keepers in our intimate relationships. We keep secrets from our partners about daily encounters, former lovers, true feelings about sex, friends, in-laws, finances, personal hopes, and worries about work, health, love, and life. It may be, in fact, that keeping these secrets makes all relationships possible. If our partners knew every thought, every nuance of our selves, our relationships would run the risk of succumbing from either constant turmoil or—perhaps worse—a tedious matter-of-factness devoid of surprises. Whatever their contribution to the maintenance of our unions, secrets also contribute to their collapse.
Uncoupling is primarily a tale of two transitions: one that begins before the other. Most often, one person wants out while the other person wants the relationship to continue. Although both partners must go through all the same stages of the transition in order to uncouple, the transition begins and ends at different times for each. By the time the still-loving partner realizes the relationship is in serious trouble, the other person is already gone in a number of ways. The rejected partner then embarks on a transition that the other person began long before.
Diane Vaughan Uncoupling: Turning Points in Intimate Relationships
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Re: I just quit all psychedelics and weed for good to save my marriage [Re: RJ Tubs 202] 2
#28217174 - 03/06/23 10:39 AM (10 months, 18 days ago) |
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Thank you RJ Tubs, this has been quite helpful in that it makes me understand the situation a bit better.
I can definitely relate to the feeling of social isolation. I too haven't been around people other than my family for the last 3 years. The shroomery really helped to substitute the lack of human interaction. I am kind of introverted and mostly comfortable being in my own company, but she seems to need socializing more than I do.
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Aside from getting a job, you might ask her what she wants from you, in regard to "not caring about the family." I suspect there's much more to her unhappiness than any irritation she feels towards you, or her claim drugs are your priority. She's saying she isn't your priority. It's not about drugs.
When our partner says, "I don't love you anymore" it's a result of a long period of suffering. She's been hiding her secret a long time.
I think you're onto something. This afternoon I spoke to her and she mentioned that she feels that I don't care about her issues at work. She says so because I once or twice got annoyed with her telling me about her work colleague's problems. I usually don't spend a lot of time discussing other people. This somehow had some kind of snowball effect that made her think I do not care at all about her problems and she's basically the slave bringing in the money, not seeing that I have lot's of stuff I do myself and actually caring about things that bother her.
That being said I feel there aren't a lot of options left. Every scenario I came up with hurts someone, so I need to pick the one that causes the least amount of damage. I play with the thought of leaving, getting a job in my home country and send money to her for the children.
As you already indicated, she has given up long ago. I will do her the favour and go ahead with the divorce. For my kids I will become a "video dad", which I can't and don't even want to imagine. It's definitely not going to be good for them, but I see no other way at the moment. The last 10 years have been the best time of my life so far, now I sense rough times ahead. I would have never dared to dream that it'll end like this.
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Re: I just quit all psychedelics and weed for good to save my marriage [Re: Anonymous #1]
#28217215 - 03/06/23 11:05 AM (10 months, 18 days ago) |
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If your wife has mentally checked out, it's going to be a hard road ahead. That being said, is there no way to see your kids regularly?
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Re: I just quit all psychedelics and weed for good to save my marriage [Re: uninc4life2010]
#28217627 - 03/06/23 04:07 PM (10 months, 17 days ago) |
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uninc4life2010 said: If your wife has mentally checked out, it's going to be a hard road ahead. That being said, is there no way to see your kids regularly?
Not really. Only if I stay in this country. Here I don't really have any other social contacts anymore and things are going downhill fast at the moment (things get seriously expensive, corrupt government, energy crisis, high unemployment rate, high crime rate, etc).
This was also the reason why we (or I) thpught it might be better to move to a more stabil country. Here I don't see a great future for my children. Education isn't great here either and you'd have to spend a fortune just for them to be able to go to a privite school where the elite sends their children to. My daughter is about to go to school in August.
If I stay here I will have to go back and work in a callcenter or similar which wouldn't earn me enough to enable them to go to a good school.
The only way I see forward is me going to Europe, take a small apartment and send money each month. Skype would be the only tool to communicate and see my children.
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Re: I just quit all psychedelics and weed for good to save my marriage [Re: Anonymous #1] 3
#28218415 - 03/07/23 04:43 AM (10 months, 17 days ago) |
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Keep trying to find ways to make it work, starting with counselling either together or separately. Sadly it seems Covid has done a lot of damage to families and the divorce rate has soared in the last couple of years.
Hang in there brother, if you work hard at this I believe you will find a way and your wife may rediscover the love that brought you together in the first place.
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Re: I just quit all psychedelics and weed for good to save my marriage [Re: Anonymous #1]
#28218932 - 03/07/23 12:56 PM (10 months, 17 days ago) |
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As you already indicated, she has given up long ago. I will do her the favour and go ahead with the divorce.
Has she specifically asked for divorce? I reread your comments here and I didn't see that info.
The reason I ask is, when you confronted her with your suspicion something was wrong, she avoided the subject. If she has not asked for a divorce, you might ask her if that is what she actually wants.
It's so difficult for many of us to be truly honest. For your sake, if this is really what she wants, you need to know that. There may be a chance that she wants to avoid dealing with the tough issues. If so, that would be good to know.
My ex-wife and I admitted to each other after our split that there were things we hadn't been honest to each other about.
For some people, dealing with the tough issues might be so painful (especially if they are tied to childhood trauma and other painful aspects of their history) that divorce might seem to be a better and easier option than dealing them.
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Re: I just quit all psychedelics and weed for good to save my marriage [Re: Anonymous #1]
#28220007 - 03/08/23 02:47 AM (10 months, 16 days ago) |
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Looking back to your first post OP, quitting weed and psychedelics is a good move and admirable for 2 reasons I can think of.
Firstly, it shows that you are serious about making changes to save your marriage and that you are directly addressing what your wife is concerned about.
Second, I believe life is better without weed. Sure, weed is a nice thing to have now and then but when it becomes a regular thing and a habit then it cannot be a good thing. THC has a negative effect on the heart however you consume it - whether you smoke it or vape it or eat it does not matter. If you want to be there for your kids and see them good up you are have a better chance doing it without weed.
Again, I hope it works out for you and that your wife is willing to give the marriage a second chance.
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Re: I just quit all psychedelics and weed for good to save my marriage [Re: RJ Tubs 202] 1
#28220010 - 03/08/23 02:51 AM (10 months, 16 days ago) |
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Warrk said: Keep trying to find ways to make it work, starting with counselling either together or separately. Sadly it seems Covid has done a lot of damage to families and the divorce rate has soared in the last couple of years.
Hang in there brother, if you work hard at this I believe you will find a way and your wife may rediscover the love that brought you together in the first place.
Thanks man, I really hope you are right. I spoke to her again about marriage counselling. She laughed it off the other day when I mentioned I would be ready to try that. Now that I spoke to her about it again she said that I should choose one which I did. Let's see if that will materialize as I sent her three different available time slots and each time she found a reason why it doesn't work for her.
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As you already indicated, she has given up long ago. I will do her the favour and go ahead with the divorce.
Has she specifically asked for divorce? I reread your comments here and I didn't see that info.
The reason I ask is, when you confronted her with your suspicion something was wrong, she avoided the subject. If she has not asked for a divorce, you might ask her if that is what she actually wants.
It's so difficult for many of us to be truly honest. For your sake, if this is really what she wants, you need to know that. There may be a chance that she wants to avoid dealing with the tough issues. If so, that would be good to know.
My ex-wife and I admitted to each other after our split that there were things we hadn't been honest to each other about.
For some people, dealing with the tough issues might be so painful (especially if they are tied to childhood trauma and other painful aspects of their history) that divorce might seem to be a better and easier option than dealing them.
She hasn't asked for a divorce, but I feel that I am running out of ideas. It feels like no matter what I suggest or no matter how much I try to find a solution, she finds something to invalidate whatever I say. I really try but she doesn't receive the message I try to bring across. That's why I kind of offered the divorce as I felt I might do her a favor by doing so. She just comes back with quotes like "don't make permanent decisions based on a temporary feeling". Not seeing that we kind of made a supposedly permanent decision based on a feeling by getting married in the first place. It's not a suitable quote to make and I am not talking to her just to get a reply that doesn't even originate from her mind. This quote would only work for suicidal individuals and suicide is out of the question. Even though I feel like "what's the point of anything" these days from time to time, I couldn't do something like that to my children and family overseas.
So she doesn't want a divorce, but at the same time it feels like she doesn't allow me to find ways to fix something either.
Here's a thing. Something I am worried about, but something she laughs off as if it's not a big deal. I talked to her yesterday and asked her if she hasn't noticed that her values have changed drastically over the last 1-2 years. She admitted that this observation is correct. I give you some examples. She used to lean on the fiminist side of things, she used to have an atheist or agnostic worldview, she never regarded drug use (and I mean responsible drug use whatever that means, basically use that doesn't interfere with our relationship or the relationship with our children) as ok. She got to know me like that. Then at some point she started following a community that calls themselves "connecting consciousness". I was wondering what that's about and asked her to explain this organization to me. Is it a cult? Does she spend money on being a part of it? Questions like that. I am relatively open-minded, so I left it at that when she told me that she doesn't pay a membership fee and that it's a community of people that help each other. That's fine with me. I trusted her and let her do her thing.
After all she tolerated my use of psychedelics, listening to Terence mckenna lectures (which I just find incredibly interesting, but of which I don't take as the ultimate truth). So I got my thing, she got hers and I left it at that.
Around Christmas she asked me if I and the kids want to join a year end function of this organization. I thought ok let's see what this is about. By that time I already got some bits and pieces that this group is pretty out there, believing in things that one cannot prove. For me that's a big thing to blindly follow a mind construct of one man and not having a speck of doubt if this is all true. I am very skeptical about the actual motives of self-proclaimed leaders like that. I always get the idea it's just about power, making money or just getting attention... or a combination of these things. The victims are people that feel the need to belong to something, that try to make sense of it.
Well yesterday I decided to do a bit of research on this "leader" (Simon Parkes). It pretty much seems like a cult to me. Something I sensed during this year end function too, which more felt like a commercial to me than anything else. All the ideas about alien races, vaccinations, god, etc. I found all of it. They even have 50000 members in the US. It's kind of scary.
So I confronted her with that yesterday. Obviously she goes into defense mode and we didn't get very far.
This "organization" turned her into someone who would resemble a Texan cowboy (no offense, this is a generalization, I know), rather than the person I fell in love with. I told her that I don't want to be married to a cowboy with a materialistic, conservative, macho worldview, I would like her back. I know that she can't just erase all the ideas she accumulated over the years. I am irritated that she can't or doesn't want to see the point that I try to make. I am sad that she doesn't seem to trust in any of my concerns, but rather trusts in thd opinions and ideas of someone she hasn't even met.
It's a situation I do not see how to get out of. If I would leave like I mentioned above she would teach these worldviews to my children. If I stay I feel I will sacrifice my sanity which will probably also have an impact on my children's development. I love my two children above everything, but sometimes the thought crosses my mind that if I would have known where this is going I wouldn't have agreed on having kids with her. And just this thought is ripping me appart. Also I know that I won't change anything for the better by occupying my mind in that way. Even though I try to hide my feelings towards my children they see me crying every day for the last three days. My son doesn't understand yet but still comes to give me a hug. My daughter is 5 now and is incredibly far for her age. She asks questions and really knows something isn't right. Just this has an impact on them.
I don't know if and how we can get out of that. I seriously wonder how a marriage counsellor would sort this out. I guess I will see. I haven't used any drugs besides coffein since a couple of days and I would be willing to stay "sober", but I would like to see her doing her part too. She seems to be feeling like whatever she does isn't a thing that should be a concern of mine.
One last thing and I know I am writing a book here... Yesterday I asked her what is so bad about my use of cannabis and psychedelics. I grew all of my stuff, I haven't bought anything for the last 10 years accept for cultivation purposes. I don't mingle with dealers or addicts. I use only after dark and when I am on my own. I tried to explain that mushrooms actually are the opposite of "escaping reality" to me, but rather a mercyless mirror that allow me to see my own shortcomings from another perspective. Of course they are also fun, but I think you know what I mean. I feel these substances even improved my relationship to her and didn't harm the development of my children. I don't even talk about it anymore accept for asking if it's ok for me to have a "meditation evening", a question to which she always replied that it's ok. Well her reply is that she doesn't want her children to be exposed to it. I understand that and I agree, but they weren't exposed to it other than having a father that secretly does these things.
I then went ahead and asked "what about the childrens bibles that you get for them to read before bed time? Isn't that exposing them to your worldviews?" I feel unhappy that she's exposing them to these stories. I made clear many times that this is an issue for me. But even though she's aware of my issue with that she goes ahead and gets another version of the bible. We currently got three here on the nightstand next to the bed. My son doesn't even talk whole scentences yet but sings hallelujah and kumbaya my lord. She doesn't regard this as pushing her faith onto them. She doesn't see what's the issue with introducing them to the Christian ideas. Why not add the Koran, the Greec mythology, Viking mythology as well, so they get the whole spectrum of ideas? I would be ok with that.
Sorry about this whole rant and thanks for reading if you made it this far.
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