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Unfolding Nature Shop: Unfolding Nature: Being in the Implicate Order

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OfflineLucisM
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Thoughts on this?
    #28207576 - 02/28/23 12:52 AM (10 months, 24 days ago)

I find some of Nietzsche's stuff a bit nihilistic for my tastes, but still illuminating if ingested with the proper intent.

Anyway, this is rather fascinating because it reminds me of the quote "if you meet the Buddha on the road, kill him"!

I think the content of this video is done well and is important food for thought, it inspires me to think about how others are experiencing life and to stay humble because I know that I don't have all the answers or the 100% proper view of reality, we're all creating something together and individuality is sacred.



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Re: Thoughts on this? [Re: Lucis]
    #28207899 - 02/28/23 09:44 AM (10 months, 24 days ago)

Follow no one, trust yourself. It's like saying marry no one, stay by yourself. It's not correct for everyone.


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Re: Thoughts on this? [Re: Lucis]
    #28207903 - 02/28/23 09:46 AM (10 months, 24 days ago)

For myself I believe the answer is "fought 'e two" and two not being one I'm sure makes a difference.


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Re: Thoughts on this? [Re: Lucis]
    #28208068 - 02/28/23 11:55 AM (10 months, 24 days ago)

Well, some of Nietzsche's thoughts may sound nihilistic but imho, that's just superficial in a sense that he considers there's no structure or order in this reality. At least in a objective way. But he also conveys it all depends on will power. Our will. This is also an idea in some eastern religions: Even if there's knowledge, there's no action without will. Knowledge -> will -> action.

About the content in the video. I don't see it as a nihilistic view of reality but as a humble view of oneself as apart of it. We are actually free to pursuit the "meaning of things" as there are no established meaning for anything but the ones we make out of this reality. That's one of the reasons I don't believe in institutionalized religions or follow a certain set of beliefs. Faith, spiritual belief, imho, are personal, non transmittable and needs no followers. It also explains, in part, what I try to explain in this other thread about the "meaning of life". It all comes down to the same principles and ideas.


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Re: Thoughts on this? [Re: Buster_Brown]
    #28208293 - 02/28/23 03:41 PM (10 months, 23 days ago)

"fought 'e two"

What's it mean?


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Re: Thoughts on this? [Re: syncro]
    #28208319 - 02/28/23 04:11 PM (10 months, 23 days ago)

He means 42, it's from Hitchhiker's Guide to the Universe

I have a somewhat similar philosophy about life.  I don't take the advice of anyone, and I mean anyone, without considering what is being said, their possible motivations for saying it, and running it thru my BS detector.  Unfortunately, there isn't much that I hear that I accept as "OK"


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Re: Thoughts on this? [Re: MAIA]
    #28208902 - 02/28/23 11:56 PM (10 months, 23 days ago)

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MAIA said:
Faith, spiritual belief, imho, are personal, non transmittable and needs no followers.




I like this, very well said!


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Re: Thoughts on this? [Re: Lucis]
    #28208978 - 03/01/23 01:51 AM (10 months, 23 days ago)

I think the evident effect on live audiences proves energy to be transmittable.


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    #28208999 - 03/01/23 03:43 AM (10 months, 23 days ago)

There are teachings that are considered complete, in terms of enlightenment, like a simple six-lettered (shadakshar) mantra for example, Om Namah Shivaya. This is a taraka (liberating) mantra beside which some teach nothing else is needed. Om Mani Padme Hum I'd assume carries the same significance, or the Christ prayer, etc.

The mantras could be reduced to just the letter Om which is said to contain all of Sanskrit, and the creative and transcendent force, etc, all one needs, or just some simple pranayam, awareness of breath is all one needs, or the teaching just to Be is all one needs.

So the question is not so much about a sufficient teacher but a sufficient disciple. As well, if one has the inclination to stay around and serve a teacher who has absorbed themselves into such, and is pure, what could be wrong, and perhaps more advantageous than that? The teaching may be extensive or hardly anything verbal or conceptual, but the teacher has embodied it and their proximity has profound transmission. It's a point of view.


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Re: Thoughts on this? [Re: Buster_Brown]
    #28210487 - 03/02/23 02:20 AM (10 months, 22 days ago)

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I think the evident effect on live audiences proves energy to be transmittable.





I am sure everyone at a live concert has gotten a rush from a band's energy and seen the band get a rush on the audience's energy, a reciprocal thing or symbiotic relationship of sorts!


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