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Lions mane+microdose for head injury question
    #28164066 - 01/30/23 09:42 AM (11 months, 22 days ago)

I'm looking to start taking lion's mane plus a microdose of cubes to see if it can help with issues my brain is having from an auto accident about 5 weeks ago.  It was Christmas eve, 2 hours before we were supposed to be at the in-laws.  I slid sideways on black ice, hit a utility pole, was knocked unconscious, had literally 5 seconds of short term memory for days, and a lot of issues ever since. 

Every week is a little better but I'm really surprised at some things that are still mis-firing up there.  I'm finally seeing a neurologist this week but I have a feeling they aren't going to be much help.  Also, this is at least my 4th fairly serious knock to the noggin

I probably should've started this a lot sooner but.. I haven't been thinking too good lately
:migraine:

Everything I'm seeing talks about taking lions mane extract or pre-made capsules or mentions of dosage say things like 3g but don't say if it's fresh, dry, or what

I've got whole fruits from an Asian market that weren't quite cracker dry.  They're in a dehydrator with the plan to grind and put them in capsules.

My thought is lion's mane daily and a microdose of cubes (likely .1g) every 2 or 3 days but I'm looking for suggestions on how many grams of cracker dry lions mane to eat daily

Any help is much appreciated


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Re: Lions mane+microdose for head injury question [Re: TheStallionMang]
    #28165323 - 01/31/23 02:17 AM (11 months, 21 days ago)

I think this might help you: https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/27805016

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    Stamets protocol:

The Stamets protocol is named after Paul Stamets. the well known amateur mycologist, fungi advocate, and author. This has a slightly different dosage schedule and combines the .1 gram P. cubensis with another mushroom, Lions Mane (500mg), and niacin (Vit. B3) (100mg).

The dosing schedule is 4 days on, 3 days off, and continue that for at least one month. What this would look like starting out:
Day 1-4: Microdosing days, take .1 gram PC, 500mg LM, 100mg B3
Day 5-7: Transition days
Day 8-11: Microdosing days, take .1 gram PC, 500mg LM, 100mg B3
Day 12-14: Transitions days

Continue this cycle for four to eight weeks, then take a break for two to four weeks and begin again.




I personally would leave the Vitamin B3 out, since Niacin often leads to flushes which can be quite unsettling.(But I stand to be corrected)


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Edited by Shrimps (01/31/23 02:23 AM)


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Re: Lions mane+microdose for head injury question [Re: TheStallionMang]
    #28165403 - 01/31/23 05:40 AM (11 months, 21 days ago)

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TheStallionMang said:
Everything I'm seeing talks about taking lions mane extract or pre-made capsules or mentions of dosage say things like 3g but don't say if it's fresh, dry, or what

I've got whole fruits from an Asian market that weren't quite cracker dry.  They're in a dehydrator with the plan to grind and put them in capsules.

My thought is lion's mane daily and a microdose of cubes (likely .1g) every 2 or 3 days but I'm looking for suggestions on how many grams of cracker dry lions mane to eat daily

Any help is much appreciated




I think it would be logical to assume that 3g means dry, as weight of cubes is given in dry weight. Your schedule for taking them also seems fine to me. Luckily you can't take too much Lions Mane and they are pretty easy to cultivate too :smile:


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Re: Lions mane+microdose for head injury question [Re: Capt. Ramius] * 1
    #28165661 - 01/31/23 08:54 AM (11 months, 21 days ago)

Thanks guys.  Yeah, I think I'll leave the vit B out.  I get all that stuff the natural way
Gonna make some capsules and get started today


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Re: Lions mane+microdose for head injury question [Re: TheStallionMang]
    #28165734 - 01/31/23 09:56 AM (11 months, 21 days ago)

keep us updated please. Would love to hear how it all works out and how your experiences are


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Re: Lions mane+microdose for head injury question [Re: Shrimps]
    #28166021 - 01/31/23 01:43 PM (11 months, 21 days ago)

I sure will. I wish I'd started it when I was having more serious trouble

The lions mane was a lot dryer after 24 hrs in the dehydrator.  Got some capsules put together today


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Re: Lions mane+microdose for head injury question [Re: TheStallionMang]
    #28170051 - 02/02/23 10:35 PM (11 months, 18 days ago)

3rd day of .1g cubes + .4g lions mane
Seems like there was more focus and slight energy.  Although it's hard to say if that was the dose or just life

Saw a neurologist today.  She wants me on nortriptyline for 3 months for lingering concussion effects but when I look it up it's classified as an anti-depressant and I don't like anti-depressants so I don't know if I'm going to take them


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Re: Lions mane+microdose for head injury question [Re: TheStallionMang]
    #28170225 - 02/03/23 02:49 AM (11 months, 18 days ago)

That works as an SNRI and would effect the microdosing. If you are going to take it, you should make a shroom/microdosing break and after you ended the Meds, you body needs to get rid of it which takes a nother ~3 months IMHO.


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Re: Lions mane+microdose for head injury question [Re: Shrimps]
    #28171989 - 02/04/23 12:04 PM (11 months, 17 days ago)

I had to look up what SNRI was, I'd heard of SSRI and it seems they are similar
I hate Rx drugs and painkillers.  I think most Rx are evil, not well tested, and the side effects are always about as bad as the supposedly good effects from them.  Not to mention the fact that doctors knowingly give people shit that's bad for them all the time because they are financially motivated by pharmaceutical reps. 

Nortriptyline has a lot of suicide warnings and other shit that makes me think I'll just skip it and treat myself.  After all, I know I care more about me than that neurologist does and eating my homemade meds certainly isn't gonna increase my thoughts of offing myself (which I think of often enough as it is, I really don't need anything that might increase that shit)

Just took 4th capsule of a microdose and lion's mane.  I seem to get chatty in the late afternoon and am not as mopey as usual.  I certainly still have things I could be bothered by but maybe I care a little less than usual (in a good way)


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Re: Lions mane+microdose for head injury question [Re: TheStallionMang]
    #28171994 - 02/04/23 12:09 PM (11 months, 17 days ago)

Are you taking daily or are you taking "off-days" in between?


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Re: Lions mane+microdose for head injury question [Re: Shrimps]
    #28172056 - 02/04/23 01:08 PM (11 months, 17 days ago)

So far I'm doing it everyday.  Today is day 4, not sure if I'll take days off or not since I'm not treating regular type problems
I've considered upping the amount of lions mane also but something is giving me more energy both mental and physical which I have to focus to keep it from getting squirrely on me so I'm not sure


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Re: Lions mane+microdose for head injury question [Re: TheStallionMang]
    #28189943 - 02/16/23 09:03 AM (11 months, 5 days ago)

Been taking that for daily. Maybe missed one day (I couldn’t remember if I took it or not) and felt a lot worse mentally and physically that day.
Been doing a flooring job for about 2 weeks now and that hurts like hell but that’s to be expected after wrenching my spine and getting weak by taking almost a month off of work
doubled up on the micro dose and lions mane today cause I’m hurting like hell. Been taking etodolac from the doc every morning also. I work like mad all day and the nights suck. Even waking up in the middle of the night in pain


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Re: Lions mane+microdose for head injury question [Re: TheStallionMang]
    #28200024 - 02/22/23 10:57 PM (10 months, 29 days ago)

I would research erinacines.


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Re: Lions mane+microdose for head injury question [Re: TheStallionMang]
    #28205280 - 02/26/23 11:11 AM (10 months, 26 days ago)

Still taking both daily but know I'm not getting much from the raw lions mane and need to eat more and cook it

I'm getting stronger doing this flooring job, mornings and nights still hurt but working feels pretty good.  My general mood is possibly better than it was before the wreck.  I plan to do easier jobs for a while after finishing this floor tomorrow
My arms and hands are numb a lot though and I'm not sleeping well because of the arm/hand pain


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Re: Lions mane+microdose for head injury question [Re: TheStallionMang]
    #28206491 - 02/27/23 08:37 AM (10 months, 25 days ago)

I haven't used lions mane.  I had a stroke at the beginning of 2917, after that I couldn't write, couldn't speak right, etc

If you have problems now, maybe should do some training early after the accident.
I read a lot, play guitar, to train my brain.  I use l-theanine with caffeine to improved memory, thinking, etc.  I also use noopept also.

Microdosing....hmmmmm.  Dont know if will help.  Actually, right my memory is fucked because of using THC gummies every day.

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Re: Lions mane+microdose for head injury question [Re: starfire_xes]
    #28207283 - 02/27/23 07:56 PM (10 months, 24 days ago)

Damn man, that's rough.  You better now?  I couldn't read and had problems talking for a while too and that shit's frustrating.  That didn't last too long though

I read cooking lions mane unlocks a lot of the good stuff that extraction gets out and it tastes pretty good too


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