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Wood blewit / accidental wine cap cultivation thread * 1
    #28206014 - 02/26/23 07:50 PM (10 months, 25 days ago)

I tried a search here on the threads for wood blewits and it’s various other names to no avail, it seems any information surrounding it’s cultivation is limited at least here at the shroomery




Anyone with any information about growing these beautiful mushrooms please share your knowledge and experience here, im hoping to start a long running thread that eventually leads to a more streamlined approach to their cultivation, from what I understand their cultivation is limited to outside beds with mulch, compost, leaf litter, or manure.
 

      I accept that it’s probably not practical even if it could be done but I would also be interested in trying to figure out an indoor cultivation method if possible.

I want to say thank you!!! and I appreciate everyone’s participation in this discussion :inlove:


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Re: Wood blewit / clitocybe nuda cultivation thread [Re: 7Suns]
    #28206025 - 02/26/23 07:57 PM (10 months, 25 days ago)

i have two varieties i am planing on running.
They fruit in fall so any attempts most likely would not yield until then.

11 pages on - Lepista Nuda


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Re: Wood blewit / clitocybe nuda cultivation thread [Re: bw86]
    #28206073 - 02/26/23 08:38 PM (10 months, 25 days ago)

BW86 make a journal/grow log and upload it here, I’d love to see more of your work, I’m actually about to order a culture now, unless your willing to send some my way, you said you had 2 strains? Where from and which ones?

Thanks for the link!!!
that’s weird AF though because when I searched the shroomery I even tried “lepista nuda” and nothing turned up, so idk maybe my search settings were messed with


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Re: Wood blewit / clitocybe nuda cultivation thread [Re: 7Suns]
    #28206103 - 02/26/23 09:09 PM (10 months, 25 days ago)

I put lepista nuda/shroomery into google to find that link because i remembered it existed 
Lepista nuda :Blewit, I will make some extra plates Tuesday
Lepista sordida : softwood Bluefoot, I have otw in the form of sawdust spawn. It will be some weeks before plates are ready to ship.
I'm always down for a trade or wouldn't mind just sending out if you want to participate in my thread, Minimum wood for woodlovers/ coir loving edibles / Gourmet Monotubs

I remember workman saying compost would work.
I might try and do some indoor experiments while it's cold. Mainly interested in building spawn for outdoor beds. Then when its cool  again I will try indoor projects. Hopefully with more dialed in info.

Ideally I would make Leaf pellet spawn > compost
I don't think sawdust spawn > coir is gonna gonna do the trick, also obviously a real casing layer is needed


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Re: Wood blewit / clitocybe nuda cultivation thread *DELETED* [Re: bw86]
    #28206111 - 02/26/23 09:17 PM (10 months, 25 days ago)

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Re: Wood blewit / clitocybe nuda cultivation thread [Re: primordialkraken]
    #28206132 - 02/26/23 09:38 PM (10 months, 25 days ago)

It's rude to muddy up a thread asking for cultures. PMs will be takin into consideration if criteria is met.


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Re: Wood blewit / clitocybe nuda cultivation thread [Re: bw86]
    #28206164 - 02/26/23 09:56 PM (10 months, 25 days ago)

Blindingleaf grew them indoors
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/20552660/

I’m messing around with a clone I took a month or two ago but things are moving slowly.


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Re: Wood blewit / clitocybe nuda cultivation thread [Re: Southerner]
    #28206207 - 02/26/23 10:57 PM (10 months, 25 days ago)

Blindingleaf killed it man that’s awesome I wish I knew that thread existed sooner !!!

BW86 I would be grateful to trade with you, shoot me a pm, I believe I have my trade list in my journal but I don’t know how up to date it is


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Re: Wood blewit / clitocybe nuda cultivation thread [Re: 7Suns]
    #28206266 - 02/27/23 12:06 AM (10 months, 25 days ago)

I love that thread with blindingleaf

Here's a link to a link with The French farms I think gave them inspiration

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/27861852#27861852

Trubblesome had an interesting Blewit post recently

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/28079245#28079245


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Re: Wood blewit / clitocybe nuda cultivation thread [Re: bw86]
    #28206399 - 02/27/23 05:50 AM (10 months, 25 days ago)

Ah, sorry! Thanks for letting one know. Scratch the culture ask.


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Re: Wood blewit / clitocybe nuda cultivation thread [Re: primordialkraken]
    #28206485 - 02/27/23 08:30 AM (10 months, 25 days ago)

I appreciate all the links, it actually seems straight forward, grain to supplemented sawdust, with a casing layer, the part that seems to be throwing everyone off seem to be that they require a long incubation period and cold weather fruit chamber just like shiitake so it shouldn’t be an issue, I previously built a 8x4x4 cold fruiting chamber that can get down to 50f

So I’m actually really excited this is more feasible than I previously thought!!!! :grin:


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Re: Wood blewit / clitocybe nuda cultivation thread [Re: 7Suns]
    #28206599 - 02/27/23 10:56 AM (10 months, 25 days ago)

Yamonn it's doable. Just not when it's getting warm. Seems like starting mid-end summer will be key. Could be said the same for enoki, nameko, wood ears and countless other.


from one of the links above
"It takes about 6 months of harvest to obtain 1,500 kg per bag.
The harvest can reach 15 to 20% of the weight of the compost."


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Re: Wood blewit / clitocybe nuda cultivation thread [Re: bw86]
    #28207184 - 02/27/23 06:53 PM (10 months, 24 days ago)

I think it’s going to be pretty culture dependent. The link deadmandave shared mentioned 3 month incubation and I believe BLs incubation was closer to one month. BL also mentioned that the ones they cold shocked were slower than the ones they fruited without.

Mine seem to be on the much slower side so a couple of days ago I streaked a plate with the print I took. Hoping to find a slightly faster culture and would be interesting to see if I can get some plate pins to mess with.


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Re: Wood blewit / clitocybe nuda cultivation thread [Re: Southerner]
    #28207245 - 02/27/23 07:34 PM (10 months, 24 days ago)

Awesome thread!

So, These guys have been fruiting in my yard for the past several years. So, I harvested some of them, and I gathered up some of substrate that they were fruiting from.  I then threw in some stem butts in the mixture, and this is where I'm at now.

Any idea on what I should do with it? And, will these grow indoors?



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Re: Wood blewit / clitocybe nuda cultivation thread [Re: KannaKris]
    #28207279 - 02/27/23 07:56 PM (10 months, 24 days ago)

Kannakriss it looks like it’s ready to fruit, do you have any experience with indoor shiitake or king oyster cultivation? From what I’m understanding it’s the same requirements, you need a cold fruiting chamber, aiming for temps between 45-65f and 80-100 RH with some full spectrum 6500k lights

If you don’t have a setup like that, then you could possibly try fruiting them in the fridge or a wine chiller


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Re: Wood blewit / clitocybe nuda cultivation thread [Re: 7Suns]
    #28207677 - 02/28/23 05:04 AM (10 months, 24 days ago)

What about my shed? It's nice and humid out there. The temps range at about 40 to 60 right now.

I also have a wide array of grow lights too, so that would be no problemo  :thumbup:

It took roughly two months for it to colonize thus far. I had it in my cold closet,  in my bed room.

It would be so sweet if I could bet these to fruit in cultivation  :excited:


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Re: Wood blewit / clitocybe nuda cultivation thread [Re: KannaKris]
    #28207687 - 02/28/23 05:27 AM (10 months, 24 days ago)

Kannakris

Yes that would work just keep an eye on temps I would guess that it needs 2-4 weeks of those temps before fruiting, as long as it doesn’t go below freezing or above 60-65 it shouldn’t abort


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Re: Wood blewit / clitocybe nuda cultivation thread [Re: 7Suns]
    #28207691 - 02/28/23 05:42 AM (10 months, 24 days ago)

Thank you! I'll move it out to the shed today,  and I'll keep you posted!

I will say that his particular variety is very cold tolerant. They fruit in my yard every year in December, no sooner, or no later,  and the highs are only in the 40's to 50's and lows are well below freezing at night.  :snowflake::snowflake::snowflake:


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Re: Wood blewit / clitocybe nuda cultivation thread [Re: KannaKris]
    #28207696 - 02/28/23 05:47 AM (10 months, 24 days ago)

Let us know!!! Looking forward to results :thumbup:


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Re: Wood blewit / clitocybe nuda cultivation thread [Re: 7Suns]
    #28207701 - 02/28/23 05:51 AM (10 months, 24 days ago)

I will do just that  :cool:


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Re: Wood blewit / clitocybe nuda cultivation thread [Re: KannaKris]
    #28210782 - 03/02/23 09:53 AM (10 months, 22 days ago)

My clitocybe nuda and clitocybe sordida cultures should be in tomorrow
So I’m excited to plate those and get this ball rolling hopefully this thread picks up steam soon


Primordialkraken get your post count up so that you can get into the marketplace, and get your first trade rating and I’d gladly send you cultures after you meet those requirements


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Re: Wood blewit / clitocybe nuda cultivation thread [Re: 7Suns]
    #28212796 - 03/03/23 04:40 PM (10 months, 21 days ago)

I wish you much luck brother  :thumbup:


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Re: Wood blewit / clitocybe nuda cultivation thread [Re: KannaKris]
    #28213462 - 03/04/23 01:04 AM (10 months, 20 days ago)

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Re: Wood blewit / clitocybe nuda cultivation thread [Re: dyel]
    #28213575 - 03/04/23 06:16 AM (10 months, 20 days ago)

Lepista sordida colonized block came in. I only bought it to get some myc for dishes.
What do you think i should do with it.? Burry it in the correct spot or spawn it indoors to pasteurized compost? Maybe case it and see if it top fruits?


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Re: Wood blewit / clitocybe nuda cultivation thread [Re: bw86]
    #28214274 - 03/04/23 02:29 PM (10 months, 20 days ago)

Quote:

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Lepista sordida colonized block came in. I only bought it to get some myc for dishes.
What do you think i should do with it.? Burry it in the correct spot or spawn it indoors to pasteurized compost? Maybe case it and see if it top fruits?




Dude, you should so try to fruit that bitch indoors and keep us posted :thumbup:


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Re: Wood blewit / clitocybe nuda cultivation thread [Re: KannaKris]
    #28214662 - 03/04/23 06:30 PM (10 months, 19 days ago)

In my honest opinion I wouldn’t spawn it to manure or anything, first thing I would do is make sure you have successfully isolated a sample of it on agar then proceed straight to indoor fruiting,

Do you have a cold weather fruiting chamber?

This was my first attempt at a cold weather FC so you can get the basic idea

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/27604943/page/1

But I’ve stepped it up a bit, I hacked a window unit ac to run below 60f down to 32f and I built an 8ft foam insulated chamber with shelving and a 12 head ultrasonic fogger

But once you get that cold chamber built you should be ready to fruit, I believe it’s about a month to fruit after inducing to cold? I need to go back and look over those links to confirm, but keep in mind this is not cold shocking this is cold fruiting meaning they have to stay in cold temperatures to fruit, if you pull them out, they will stall or abort


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Re: Wood blewit / clitocybe nuda cultivation thread [Re: 7Suns]
    #28214680 - 03/04/23 06:41 PM (10 months, 19 days ago)

do you think just leaving mine outside in the shade would indue fruiting,  with these temps?

During the days it has been getting mighty warm in my shed.




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Re: Wood blewit / clitocybe nuda cultivation thread [Re: KannaKris]
    #28214767 - 03/04/23 07:19 PM (10 months, 19 days ago)

well my martha is in my garage and the average temp is about 62...but
i already spawned it :tongue:
50/50 earth worm casing/coir with a hint of verm thats what I had on hand. Yeah there is probably a dozen things I would have used before that but was bored and just started to do it.
The myc stuck under the flaps in the spawn bag it more than enough to get a good sample. I'll keep you updated but now that the weather is  getting warmer and they need a consolidation period i don't really have hopes until fall. My only hope would have been if I dunked, cased and top fruited.


sall about havin fun though right ?

kannakris that weather does look conducive to cold weather fruit formation :fingerscrossed: 


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Re: Wood blewit / clitocybe nuda cultivation thread [Re: bw86]
    #28214796 - 03/04/23 07:30 PM (10 months, 19 days ago)

I'm going to throw mine outside then. I mean,  I didn't ever expect to even get this far,  so who knows what might happen!

Good luck everybody  :cool::thumbup:


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Re: Wood blewit / clitocybe nuda cultivation thread [Re: KannaKris]
    #28214823 - 03/04/23 07:48 PM (10 months, 19 days ago)

get some on agar first.No agar? Sterilized wet cardboard will work.


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Re: Wood blewit / clitocybe nuda cultivation thread [Re: bw86]
    #28215022 - 03/04/23 09:40 PM (10 months, 19 days ago)

Cultures arrived later then expected so I got them today instead of yesterday, I’ll be making plates and noc’n grain tomorrow if all goes well, I do plan on doing some unsterile experiments as well trying to “super spawn” pasteurized wood chips to open colonized outdoor bins

Kannakris your temps should be fine, I think they stop fruiting around 65f-70f

BW86 dang I wish I caught you sooner lol oh well hopefully you were able to establish an outdoor bed that comes back every year


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Re: Wood blewit / clitocybe nuda cultivation thread [Re: bw86]
    #28215314 - 03/05/23 04:14 AM (10 months, 19 days ago)

Quote:

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get some on agar first.No agar? Sterilized wet cardboard will work.




I think I best do that,  just in case! Thanks brother  :thumbup:


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Re: Wood blewit / clitocybe nuda cultivation thread [Re: 7Suns]
    #28215315 - 03/05/23 04:14 AM (10 months, 19 days ago)

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Cultures arrived later then expected so I got them today instead of yesterday, I’ll be making plates and noc’n grain tomorrow if all goes well, I do plan on doing some unsterile experiments as well trying to “super spawn” pasteurized wood chips to open colonized outdoor bins

Kannakris your temps should be fine, I think they stop fruiting around 65f-70f

BW86 dang I wish I caught you sooner lol oh well hopefully you were able to establish an outdoor bed that comes back every year





Yeah, I'm going to find a good spot in the yard,  and see if I can get these bad boys to fruit!


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Re: Wood blewit / clitocybe nuda cultivation thread [Re: KannaKris]
    #28217242 - 03/06/23 11:22 AM (10 months, 18 days ago)

weird that my thread didn't show up when you searched. I got a pure slant culture in december 2020, finally got fruits last November, it took about 18 months from spawn to fruits

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/28079245#28086838


you're going to want to expand your culture and bombard whatever substrate you're spawning to with whole blocks that have been allowed to fully digest their substrate. I used sawdust and spawned to my leaf compost.

Once I had fruits, I toss all the butts into my compost, hopefully spreading that compost in my garden will yield more fruits down the line.

I got a surprise fruiting the other day during a brief lull in the winter weather. Hoping to get more before season's end.


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Re: Wood blewit / clitocybe nuda cultivation thread [Re: trubblesome]
    #28217255 - 03/06/23 11:31 AM (10 months, 18 days ago)

oh, and good luck! I mean what could be cooler than purple fucking mushrooms? they're cute as hell to boot, especially the buttons.


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Re: Wood blewit / clitocybe nuda cultivation thread [Re: trubblesome]
    #28217391 - 03/06/23 01:11 PM (10 months, 18 days ago)

Did you supplement your sawdust blocks? If not do you think that would make a difference? How big where they?
Thank you for sharing. I have no problems waiting two years, but hopeful it can be pulled this fall(8 months). You don't think its possible?


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Re: Wood blewit / clitocybe nuda cultivation thread [Re: bw86]
    #28217704 - 03/06/23 04:58 PM (10 months, 18 days ago)

I actually did stumble across your post but only after someone linked me in, no idea why my search function turned up null, I made it as vague as possible lmao 🤣

Good stuff tho trubblesome did you have any luck indoors?


Btw just to update I relocated my cold fruiting chamber outside since we needed the room,  so I decided to tear it down a bit and rebuild it a bit better, which mostly consisted of fortifying the insulation boards with an osb board exterior and building an electrical “panel” to clean up all the crazy wiring

Also went ahead and Pc’d some jars so I’ll be inoculating jars tonight
Hopefully I have the time to make master slants for my genetics bank


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    #28217708 - 03/06/23 05:01 PM (10 months, 17 days ago)



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Re: Wood blewit / clitocybe nuda cultivation thread [Re: 7Suns] * 1
    #28217743 - 03/06/23 05:34 PM (10 months, 17 days ago)

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Did you supplement your sawdust blocks? If not do you think that would make a difference? How big where they?
Thank you for sharing. I have no problems waiting two years, but hopeful it can be pulled this fall(8 months). You don't think its possible?





straight sawdust, oat spawn, 5 lb blocks. I made like 10 total, two at a time, two weeks apart, let them consolidate for a few weeks after finishing colonization (til they were practically climbing out of the bag) and then just tossed them into the already composting leaf pile whole. I didn't supplement because I didn't want to give any opportunity to contams and really let the blewit get to work.

from what I understand (but don't understand why exactly) they need the two full seasons to fully digest and get ready for fruiting, but I'd never say never when it comes to mushrooms. I know for sure that they need particular bacteria to be present to trigger fruiting. It may be that they spend the second season killing off bacteria that aren't compatible with them ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ I can't pretend to know the specifics, all I know of their behavior I learned from Tradd Cotter and he said they'll only fruit in year two. They're badass though, I watched them devour a bacterial colony on a plate, it was pretty cool. I'd peep them on the scope once a day and see the hyphae boring deeper into the colony. That's why they do well in compost. Same goes for winecap.



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Good stuff tho trubblesome did you have any luck indoors?






haven't gone any further with indoor stuff for lack of basement space right now. my only attempt was before I really understood their deal and I green'd out the bag dropping a pile of composted leaves on top of a block. they pretty much liquified and drowned themselves in myc piss :syringe: I think I should have let it consolidate a really good long while before introducing the leaves, like six months or so, and pasteurized the leaves before putting them in the bag. They won't fruit on a sterile medium, they absolutely 100% need bacteria present, and they NEED a hard frost snap followed by a warmer period to initiate fruiting. I would try tossing a bag that you're ready to fruit in the freezer for a day or more and then put it back in the fruiting chamber :thumbup: that was my plan, anyway.

The other thing I noticed is that they seem to enjoy old dropped pine needles scattered on top of the leaf pile, the places where there were clumps of pine needles on my pile were where most of my fruits came from. Indeed that's where I've found them in the wild, in piles of hardwood leaf duff under and near pine trees. maybe the needles make a more acidic environment that kills off the bacteria they don't like, or maybe they just make the perfect microclimate to provide fresh air and the right amount of humidity to the pins. Maybe both!

now that I have consistent fruits though I think that starting a bag out of butts or the "blewit bombs" that Tradd invented and I mentioned in my thread would be a better way to inoculate leaves for an indoor fruiting. Still kinda think they need a very long consolidation period though, but starting from the butts makes sure that the compatible bacteria is present in the new culture!


In any case I'm absolutely THRILLED to see this thread and that more people are growing them! the more we can discover together the better!! :mushroom2:


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Re: Wood blewit / clitocybe nuda cultivation thread [Re: trubblesome]
    #28217841 - 03/06/23 06:37 PM (10 months, 17 days ago)

looks fun 7suns. What kind of lighting do you use in that humid environment?
Thanks for the responses troublesome +5. Personally i dont think that supplemented blocks that are consolidated have any more a reason to contam than non supplemented.I will do both. I am also going to burry some whole and break some up. Also plan to keep maybe 6 or so tubs consolidating until winter ( I would do 20+ but have so many species going on)


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Re: Wood blewit / clitocybe nuda cultivation thread [Re: bw86]
    #28217927 - 03/06/23 07:15 PM (10 months, 17 days ago)

:rockon: :rockon: :rockon:

damnit didn't think that'd be on a new page. anyway as penance for a throwaway post here's my latest couple of surprise blewit fruits. they weren't as purple as the early season ones but were quite delicious fried up in butter and tossed into mac and cheese :crazy2:





They look more like the ones I've found in the wild and doubted myself about. I mashed up the butts from these (and a few that were well past prime) and tossed them straight into my compost bin, then threw a few handfuls of snow over top. as it melts I'm hoping it brings some of the myc through the pile.


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Re: Wood blewit / clitocybe nuda cultivation thread [Re: trubblesome]
    #28217988 - 03/06/23 07:59 PM (10 months, 17 days ago)

It’s led string lights rated for outdoor/wet location

Trubblesome, from limited information I’ve gathered in other links here, it seems freezing temps actually do more harm then good even for short periods, but I’m only basing that off of someone else’s experience so I don’t know how credible it is

Also I personally feel bacteria are not needed, at least from what I’ve seen vicariously through others experiences but again I’m just speculating, however it seems prolonged temperatures between 40-60f for 2-4 weeks is what triggered pinning, I’ve seen in another post, someone got hyphae knots in a sterilized and sealed spawn bag they left in the fridge for several weeks….. but that’s the reason I’m happy to see this thread flourish, so we can figure out this species needs in a more controlled manner


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    #28218283 - 03/06/23 11:52 PM (10 months, 17 days ago)

Woo00oooottt !!!

Agar poured, grain inoculated, I guess I finally get to enter ring with the rest of ya :thumbup:

(Unfortunately I poured a little thicker then I had originally planed, so I didn’t have enough leftover for master slants, so that will be next weeks project)

***Please excuse the other strains in the photo dump, ended up doing some wine caps and 2 new morchella species for my collection**

I have 4 quart jars of both clitocybe nuda and clitocybe sordida on P.P. whole oats pc’d for 90min

My intentions for these jars will be to try fruiting indoors in a controlled environment using only sterile spawn and pasteurized casing. The first batch I will do G2G with 1 of each and then spawn the remaining jars to sterilized sawdust, I will try to do a supplemented vs unsuplemented as well if time permits






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    #28218442 - 03/07/23 05:24 AM (10 months, 17 days ago)

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Re: Wood blewit / clitocybe nuda cultivation thread [Re: 7Suns]
    #28218444 - 03/07/23 05:26 AM (10 months, 17 days ago)

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:rockon: :rockon: :rockon:

damnit didn't think that'd be on a new page. anyway as penance for a throwaway post here's my latest couple of surprise blewit fruits. they weren't as purple as the early season ones but were quite delicious fried up in butter and tossed into mac and cheese :crazy2:





They look more like the ones I've found in the wild and doubted myself about. I mashed up the butts from these (and a few that were well past prime) and tossed them straight into my compost bin, then threw a few handfuls of snow over top. as it melts I'm hoping it brings some of the myc through the pile.




Awesome, mine start out purple,  and then turn that color too  :cool:

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Woo00oooottt !!!

Agar poured, grain inoculated, I guess I finally get to enter ring with the rest of ya :thumbup:

(Unfortunately I poured a little thicker then I had originally planed, so I didn’t have enough leftover for master slants, so that will be next weeks project)

***Please excuse the other strains in the photo dump, ended up doing some wine caps and 2 new morchella species for my collection**

I have 4 quart jars of both clitocybe nuda and clitocybe sordida on P.P. whole oats pc’d for 90min

My intentions for these jars will be to try fruiting indoors in a controlled environment using only sterile spawn and pasteurized casing. The first batch I will do G2G with 1 of each and then spawn the remaining jars to sterilized sawdust, I will try to do a supplemented vs unsuplemented as well if time permits










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Re: Wood blewit / clitocybe nuda cultivation thread [Re: KannaKris]
    #28218465 - 03/07/23 06:04 AM (10 months, 17 days ago)

Kannakris I don’t even really grow for the harvest I mostly do this as research and development now a days, been growing over 15 years now and it’s the only way I can still get my kicks if I do trial and error work to prove or disprove theories and tame strains most people haven’t


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    #28218513 - 03/07/23 07:06 AM (10 months, 17 days ago)

Well, whatever you do it for,  keep it up man!  You're my inspiration  :rockman:


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    #28218525 - 03/07/23 07:23 AM (10 months, 17 days ago)

Thanks Kannakris!!!

I’m just hoping to get lucky someday and tame some of these more exotic species and cash in on the profit so I can finally afford to buy some large acreage, move the family out of the city and finally afford a real lab :rofl:

I can dream lmao :shrug:

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    #28220592 - 03/08/23 11:23 AM (10 months, 16 days ago)

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Thanks Kannakris!!!

I’m just hoping to get lucky someday and tame some of these more exotic species and cash in on the profit so I can finally afford to buy some large acreage, move the family out of the city and finally afford a real lab :rofl:

I can dream lmao :shrug:

I’ll still share my finds with the community though I’m not greedy





No problem man  :grin:  You turn that dream into a reality! I have faith in you  :thumbup:


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    #28221541 - 03/08/23 10:04 PM (10 months, 15 days ago)

This blewit culture is very aggressive, 2 days into it and I’m already on the board

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    #28221561 - 03/08/23 10:19 PM (10 months, 15 days ago)

I always look HERE when trying a new culture then I click on the CULTIVATION INFO Tab.









































































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    #28221768 - 03/09/23 04:57 AM (10 months, 15 days ago)

Thanks for the link  https://mycelia.be/m8551-lepista-nuda/

now i aint no mathmatachine but 23L of spawn / ton of substrate seems super low. Isn't a metric tun 2,200#s. Do you assume its metric outside the US or a tun is a 1,000 pounds in Europe?


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    #28221826 - 03/09/23 06:22 AM (10 months, 15 days ago)

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This blewit culture is very aggressive, 2 days into it and I’m already on the board

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Re: Wood blewit / clitocybe nuda cultivation thread [Re: KannaKris]
    #28222071 - 03/09/23 10:19 AM (10 months, 15 days ago)

Shroomsisay01.

When I click the link and read the description it says  Lipista nuda- prefers high temperatures

Two things that make me weary of that is:

The most current taxonomic description is Clitocybe nuda,
The other red flag is, they do not prefer high temperatures from every other source I’ve come across


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Re: Wood blewit / clitocybe nuda cultivation thread [Re: 7Suns]
    #28223127 - 03/09/23 11:00 PM (10 months, 14 days ago)

if you look in the description it names Blewit / Clitocybe Nuda so they are saying it is the same mushroom but I know nothing about this strain so I can't say either way. That site has never let me down b4 but there is a first time for everything.


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    #28223507 - 03/10/23 09:22 AM (10 months, 14 days ago)

If the strain I have fails I’ll probably try to source it from a wild find at this point, I’ve seen a lot of vendors claim to have isolated the correct mycelium but there’s no dna analysis or even microscopic confirmation

Hell I’d even be more interested in buying spores from a vendor at this point vs cultures because it’s easier to match spores under my microscope, I guess I can put some of this myc under a slide but I don’t have a point of reference for what it should look like, my other option is to wait for these jars to colonize and then toss them in the fridge to see if they start to go purple on me

Also those prices are unreasonable imho

And yes it’s the same just they didn’t use the most current name in the headline but that’s not my issue with it, my thing is they listed it as “prefers high temperatures” but almost every thing else says they don’t colonize over 70-80f


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    #28223549 - 03/10/23 09:47 AM (10 months, 14 days ago)

My sordita from a non vendor was bacterial. My Nuda from outgrow is performing amazing. I went from lc to agar to agar to wbs pint and did g2g. Everything is moving along well.
The plates are not turning yet but all of the transfer pieces from t1 plates to the t2 plates have turned lilacish. And i can see the myc changing colors on the underside of the plates.


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    #28223689 - 03/10/23 11:27 AM (10 months, 14 days ago)

BW86 that’s awesome news!!!
if my cultures don’t turn out right I might still end up hitting you up if that’s still an option?

Also if you are still having issues with bacteria in the sordida cultures I have a diy antibiotic agar recipe in my journal, or I could send you some premix

I hope mine turn out right but it’s still too soon to say for sure


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    #28223823 - 03/10/23 01:09 PM (10 months, 14 days ago)

Sure I have plenty of cultures. Anyone can feel free to pm me but don't bump the thread just to ask for them. I reached out :mushroom:mountain and explain my process and how I determined their spawn was bacterial. I dunno if the will respond.


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    #28223843 - 03/10/23 01:21 PM (10 months, 14 days ago)

I wouldn’t hold my breath, I don’t know about that company personally but I know a few I’ve reached out to that I still have yet to get a response (months later)


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    #28225257 - 03/11/23 03:06 PM (10 months, 13 days ago)

Chances are Blewitts are a clade...I've got some that like it hot, others that like it cold. They don't need bacteria, I've fruited them in petris and bags. They do prefer a composted substrate, in my experience. And they often grow in fairy rings-some around here as big as a footy oval. Esay way to get them growing is to dig up a cluster from a ring, and transplant it to a compost rich part of your garden.


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    #28225293 - 03/11/23 03:26 PM (10 months, 13 days ago)

Worowa,

Very interesting, I guess you’re right I imagine there are sub-variants out there that are more warm weather tolerant, and thats kinda where I’m at with my research, soil bacteria aren’t  necessary but what I imagine is they are symbiotic in a forest environment because a lot of soil bacteria create nitrogen but it would seem the carbon/nitrogen balance in the substrate is all that’s really needed other then temps and humidity for a controlled environment


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    #28226305 - 03/12/23 11:21 AM (10 months, 12 days ago)




5 days of colonization from LC to whole oats, this nuda culture is much faster than I imagined, I’m going to give them another week or so just to thicken up but all the grain is covered


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    #28226359 - 03/12/23 12:06 PM (10 months, 12 days ago)

I would absolutely love to get one from Australia since their peak winter is U.S.  june - august.


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Re: Wood blewit / clitocybe nuda cultivation thread [Re: bw86]
    #28226364 - 03/12/23 12:15 PM (10 months, 12 days ago)

Their temperatures still range from 30f-50f in the winter months only difference is what months this happens although northern Australia does stay warmer because of the proximity to the equator but any sub-variety from Australia would probably still have the same fruiting temps


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    #28226382 - 03/12/23 12:38 PM (10 months, 12 days ago)

tru
But if attempting to fruit indoors with cooler conditions during our spriing/summer. One might think using genes that fruited for a millennia at that time period would be more eager to pop.
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    #28226525 - 03/12/23 02:31 PM (10 months, 12 days ago)

Lol I see where you were going with that but I don’t think they have an internal clock or preference for season other then the temperature requirements that accompany that season, but I honestly don’t know that’s just my guess


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    #28227651 - 03/13/23 10:55 AM (10 months, 11 days ago)

Is anyone else’s clitocybe nuda mycelium very aggressive on grain? I shook the jar yesterday and it’s already fluffed up and re-colonized,? Is this normal for this species?


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Re: Wood blewit / clitocybe nuda cultivation thread [Re: 7Suns]
    #28227652 - 03/13/23 10:57 AM (10 months, 11 days ago)

I would say mine is on par with yours. Maybe a lil slower, but a lil thicker. If i shook them they might be thinner but there is no need since I shake after the grain transfer.
clitocybe nuda: 6 days from grain transfer




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Re: Wood blewit / clitocybe nuda cultivation thread [Re: bw86]
    #28227876 - 03/13/23 02:01 PM (10 months, 11 days ago)

BW86

Very interesting, I love how fast these guys are I’d actually argue they’re faster then my oyster strains, when was that jar inoculated?

Mine are exactly 7days from LC and completely covered but not very  thick, you’re could be thicker because of the different grain it seems to really like your wbs I used oats and I noticed there’s occasional a few pieces of corn and soybean mixed in, they don’t seem to bother with the corn but when they hit the soybeans they really thicken up, which I guess makes sense because soybeans contain more amino acids and nitrogen then in oats or corn

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Re: Wood blewit / clitocybe nuda cultivation thread [Re: bw86]
    #28227899 - 03/13/23 02:13 PM (10 months, 11 days ago)

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I would say mine is on par with yours. Maybe a lil slower, but a lil thicker. If i shook them they might be thinner but there is no need since i shake after the grain transfer.
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Re: Wood blewit / clitocybe nuda cultivation thread [Re: KannaKris]
    #28228175 - 03/13/23 05:07 PM (10 months, 11 days ago)

still no signs of blue/purple so that still has me concerned if I even have the right stuff still a bit early so fingers crossed it just needs more time for it to develop some color


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Re: Wood blewit / clitocybe nuda cultivation thread [Re: 7Suns]
    #28228190 - 03/13/23 05:18 PM (10 months, 11 days ago)

I think you'll be alright mate  :cool:


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Re: Wood blewit / clitocybe nuda cultivation thread [Re: KannaKris]
    #28233287 - 03/17/23 07:34 AM (10 months, 7 days ago)

I threw one of the nuda jars in the fridge just to see if I can get it to start showing some color in the mycelium, I’ll pull it out in a few days and see what happens


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Re: Wood blewit / clitocybe nuda cultivation thread [Re: 7Suns]
    #28233999 - 03/17/23 04:56 PM (10 months, 7 days ago)

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I threw one of the nuda jars in the fridge just to see if I can get it to start showing some color in the mycelium, I’ll pull it out in a few days and see what happens





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Re: Wood blewit / clitocybe nuda cultivation thread [Re: KannaKris]
    #28234162 - 03/17/23 07:17 PM (10 months, 6 days ago)

I’m sorry to hear that, hopefully they come up this fall.

My sordida culture is starting to go violet and it’s barley colonized the grain, really has me feeling like I got burned on the nuda cultures :mad:


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Re: Wood blewit / clitocybe nuda cultivation thread [Re: 7Suns]
    #28234188 - 03/17/23 07:38 PM (10 months, 6 days ago)

Yeah It's loaded with compost, so I'm sure that they will.

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Re: Wood blewit / clitocybe nuda cultivation thread [Re: KannaKris]
    #28234705 - 03/18/23 08:25 AM (10 months, 6 days ago)

All my nuda jars are colonized. Next week I will make some into supplemented sawdust blocks and do some g2g.
My sordita plates are growing nice myc although there are bacterial colonies on the plates. I still have to do some isolating before moving to grain. The worm casing I knocked up with the original sawdust spawn is finally moving along. 50/50 worm castings/coir bucket tekd.  Its thin myc but good to know I can bucket tek that mixture and it wont trich out. Especially with the bacterial spawn added to it.


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Re: Wood blewit / clitocybe nuda cultivation thread [Re: bw86]
    #28234909 - 03/18/23 11:18 AM (10 months, 6 days ago)

Man, I’m jealous of y’all’s faster cultures. Mine are taking around a month in jars and even slower on wood substrate. Hopefully with better temps they will speed up a bit. Excited to see what y’all pull off in the meantime :popcorn:


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Re: Wood blewit / clitocybe nuda cultivation thread [Re: Southerner]
    #28234921 - 03/18/23 11:30 AM (10 months, 6 days ago)

BW86,

You said your nuda culture was from outgrow right? I’m about to order a syringe from them just to compare genetics

Southerner, any chance you’re genetics were mixed up with sordida? Because my sordida is moving extremely slow compared to the nuda  culture I have even though they were sourced from the same place


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Re: Wood blewit / clitocybe nuda cultivation thread [Re: 7Suns]
    #28235026 - 03/18/23 12:42 PM (10 months, 6 days ago)

Yeah nuda I got from outgrow. It was probably clean direct from lc but I did two agar transfers before sending it to grain.


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Re: Wood blewit / clitocybe nuda cultivation thread [Re: bw86] * 1
    #28235031 - 03/18/23 12:44 PM (10 months, 6 days ago)

Mine is a clone of a wild find. Pretty sure it’s L. nuda but I’m far from a trusted identifier :lol:



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Re: Wood blewit / clitocybe nuda cultivation thread [Re: Southerner]
    #28243200 - 03/23/23 03:32 PM (10 months, 1 day ago)

I did some hot pours over a few sordita plates. The myc has grown a good bit away from the original visible bacteria. Gonna make plates from the leading edge. (sorry for the condensation )


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Re: Wood blewit / clitocybe nuda cultivation thread [Re: bw86]
    #28243294 - 03/23/23 04:59 PM (10 months, 1 day ago)

BW86

I’m not familiar with the term “hot pours” are you implying you poured new agar over the surface of the contaminated plate to allow the mycelium to grow through it but not the bacteria? Because that is a pretty interesting concept I haven’t considered but in theory it could work, just never heard of it being done


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Re: Wood blewit / clitocybe nuda cultivation thread [Re: 7Suns]
    #28243322 - 03/23/23 05:12 PM (10 months, 1 day ago)

Yeah there are teks about hot pours I haven't read one in a while and might not have done it the way "its supposed " to be done.

I poured new agar over half the plate. There is still bacteria suppressed under the myc on the first layer. The far edge of this new myc that crawled up and outside the original footprint of the bacteria should be clean.
Or not :shrug: but its worth a try.
I think I will make supplemented sawdust bags for my nuda tomorrow so we are pretty much neck and neck. Although some pretty terrible shit is happing in my life right now. I'm doing myco work to stay distracted but there are other things that will need take precedence.


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Re: Wood blewit / clitocybe nuda cultivation thread [Re: bw86]
    #28243818 - 03/23/23 10:02 PM (10 months, 19 hours ago)

That’s really cool info I’ll definitely look into hot pouring, it sounds like a useful strategy I can start employing in the future thanks for the knowledge

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Re: Wood blewit / clitocybe nuda cultivation thread [Re: 7Suns] * 1
    #28244112 - 03/24/23 06:25 AM (10 months, 11 hours ago)

Have y’all messed with water agar at all?

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/27900393#27900393

Very easy way to get out of bacteria. When cloning I always take tissue to at least one plate of water agar and usually end up using that material. No good for mold but easy enough to tell what’s what and transfer away from it.


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Re: Wood blewit / clitocybe nuda cultivation thread [Re: Southerner]
    #28244154 - 03/24/23 07:22 AM (10 months, 10 hours ago)

I’ve seen a lot about water agar but personally haven’t used it, sounds like another thing I’ll consider adding to my arsenal, typically I just use antibiotic agar but it doesn’t work on every bacterial infection


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Re: Wood blewit / clitocybe nuda cultivation thread [Re: 7Suns] * 2
    #28266170 - 04/06/23 10:52 PM (9 months, 17 days ago)

Well good and bad news

The sordida grain jars are almost done and ready to spawn

The nuda on the other hand have been taken over by an obligate anaerobe possibly a clostridium spp. because the top half of the jar closest to the fresh air exchange is healthy and fully colonized, but the bottom half on all 4 nuda jars are bacterial because of the low oxygen environment as it gets further from the mp tape

I still plan on salvaging the top half of each nuda jar and bulking it out to unsuplemented sawdust to get past the bacteria

Also on a positive note I just finished up the new flowhood and it’s pretty sweet

I’ll make an update in my journal if anyone wants to skim my new build using polycarbonate and $40 hepa filters from Lowes

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Re: Wood blewit / clitocybe nuda cultivation thread [Re: 7Suns]
    #28266264 - 04/07/23 01:43 AM (9 months, 17 days ago)

do you work with glass 7suns?


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Re: Wood blewit / clitocybe nuda cultivation thread [Re: dyel]
    #28266729 - 04/07/23 10:47 AM (9 months, 17 days ago)

Dyel it depends on what you mean, I’m basically a Jack of all trades what did you have in mind? Maybe shoot me a pm


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    #28266969 - 04/07/23 01:55 PM (9 months, 17 days ago)

nothing specific, you make your flow hood from glass (or at least it looks like it) and have a bunch of glass laying around do i thought you might be a glazier (i learned this word today but don't tell anyone guys) :lol:


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Re: Wood blewit / clitocybe nuda cultivation thread [Re: dyel]
    #28266997 - 04/07/23 02:14 PM (9 months, 17 days ago)

Oh no it’s actually plexiglass lol glass is a bit heavier and to easy to break for something like this, also if you read it again I did mention it was polycarbonate but the laymen terminology is plexiglass lol sorry for the confusion


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Re: Wood blewit / clitocybe nuda cultivation thread [Re: 7Suns]
    #28268009 - 04/08/23 12:54 AM (9 months, 16 days ago)

I salvaged the top half of the nuda spawn when I opened it it smelled like sour rot so it’s actually more likely contaminated with bacillus subtillis not a clostridium species,

Either way I’m hoping the bacteria won’t be able to stick around in an unsuplemented sawdust substrate and the nuda mycelium will flourish

Here’s some pics, hopefully they colonize and recover so I can do some indoor experiments

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Re: Wood blewit / clitocybe nuda cultivation thread [Re: 7Suns]
    #28269446 - 04/09/23 12:10 AM (9 months, 15 days ago)

Very aggressive mycelium even after surviving bacterial contamination it has fuzzed back up in less then 8 hrs when I checked it this morning but it’s definitely not mold,

Still haven’t used the new culture yet from outgrow, been a bit busy with other projects we’re dedicating a decent area to lab space, and putting in a counter top with sink and stove top range for grain prep work space


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Re: Wood blewit / clitocybe nuda cultivation thread [Re: 7Suns]
    #28270123 - 04/09/23 03:21 PM (9 months, 15 days ago)

I have got a lot of work done with other species but just made a couple nuda supplemented hwfp bags this week.
I also finally had a good plate to make a master pint with my sordita but fumbled the transfer. (The lid on my pint wasn't fully unscrewed and I was using a micro-scalple ) :facepalm: but w/e i will make another t3 transfer before making a master pint.


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Re: Wood blewit / clitocybe nuda cultivation thread [Re: bw86]
    #28270149 - 04/09/23 03:51 PM (9 months, 15 days ago)

i remember reading in one of them ''books'' - blewits need to be cooked, some bad toxins for blood cells or something not just stomach problems and vaguely remember not to eat too many, and maybe get rid of the water leachate somehow.. i used to microwave them with paper towel.. i cant remember exactly .. anyway, need cook them properly apparently


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Re: Wood blewit / clitocybe nuda cultivation thread [Re: kedi]
    #28272134 - 04/11/23 01:17 AM (9 months, 13 days ago)

Finally put the outgrow nuda culture on grain, and agar, my sordida look like they will be ready to go in substrate this weekend, not sure what I want to use yet, almost considering trying straw on one of the jars


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Re: Wood blewit / clitocybe nuda cultivation thread [Re: 7Suns]
    #28272426 - 04/11/23 08:15 AM (9 months, 13 days ago)

Mine are still moving quite slowly. I decided to open this bag up and grab a couple of pieces of myc from this growth that seems to do okay on masters mix. Hopefully narrowing down genetics will get better/faster growth from the clone culture.



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Re: Wood blewit / clitocybe nuda cultivation thread [Re: Southerner]
    #28272607 - 04/11/23 10:14 AM (9 months, 13 days ago)

Yea if yo can isolate a pheno that moves faster it could help not sure if you would be better off starting with spores or if tissue samples will have enough divergent types to sector from


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Re: Wood blewit / clitocybe nuda cultivation thread [Re: 7Suns]
    #28273592 - 04/11/23 09:11 PM (9 months, 12 days ago)

I streaked a plate or two but didn’t get any growth and the spores are pretty fresh. I might have to make up a batch of agar with some wood pellet tea added or something. As it’s gotten warmer around here the bags seems to be doing better. The myc I grabbed yesterday is fluffed up so I’ll mess around with that and maybe streak another plate or two before messing with other options.


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Re: Wood blewit / clitocybe nuda cultivation thread [Re: Southerner] * 1
    #28313702 - 05/10/23 05:28 AM (8 months, 15 days ago)

Just to update all of my nuda jars failed and the last ditch effort to spawn then in shoe boxes didn’t work out but I found the cause was the old hepa filter so I built my new hood and no more bacterial grain, time to get back on the horse

My nuda culture from outgrow is slower but very clean and happy so a few more days and I’ll be doing g2g with it

My sordida are very slightly bacterial but still very healthy so I’ll try spawning more shoe boxes


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Re: Wood blewit / clitocybe nuda cultivation thread [Re: 7Suns]
    #28313726 - 05/10/23 05:56 AM (8 months, 15 days ago)

Sordidta unfortunately is still on plates for me. Nuda i have spawn bags, garden beds and and tubs made. I might try and get in front of the hood tonight but its yard season and im about to take an adderall and put in 8 hours of work on my day off. I was going really hard to distract myself from the fact that my good boy had cancer;  i lost him and my motivation... just kinda running on auto pilot. I plan to finish up the work i wanted to do with these for now to  make room for warm weather species.


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Re: Wood blewit / clitocybe nuda cultivation thread [Re: bw86]
    #28314352 - 05/10/23 01:39 PM (8 months, 15 days ago)

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    #28374324 - 06/25/23 04:36 PM (7 months, 1 hour ago)

I have a fruit! Just finished watering the currant patch where I made a bed and i was surprised to find a single mature purple fruit looking back at me. fuck yeah


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Re: Wood blewit / clitocybe nuda cultivation thread [Re: bw86]
    #28377449 - 06/28/23 07:54 AM (6 months, 28 days ago)

What was the temperature range it fruited at?

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Re: Wood blewit / clitocybe nuda cultivation thread [Re: 7Suns]
    #28380563 - 06/30/23 07:19 PM (6 months, 25 days ago)

Its been in the 70s touching 80 with 100% chance of thunder storms yet no rain. High humidity and a few down pours almost daily.
I found cup morels in the same bed at the same time.
The berry is red lake currant it like a ph from 6.2- 6.5 as opposed to blue berries that like ph 4-5. Spawn was mixed with the most inexpensive hardwood fuel pellet that home depot had and it was mulched with pine needles. The drip line uns when i water other plants its not hooked up to a timer or anything.


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    #28422459 - 08/05/23 10:00 PM (5 months, 20 days ago)



I’m freaking excited as fuck guys !!!! I got pins on the clitocybe sordida bins

They are probably about 3 months old by now I lost track of them and have neglected them and to my surprise when I opened them today they had pins !!!

Spawned slightly bacterial sordida on oats to pasteurized chopped straw, they colonized quickly, and after 2 weeks of full colonization i cased it with coconut coir about a half inch thick (which was probably too deep tbh) and then they just sat there for months……

Temps fluctuated in the grow room between 60-70f

2 weeks ago I checked them but didn’t notice any changes but was surprised that they hadn’t contaminated after being around so long
So I moved them to the back room that is between 70-85f

Today I brought them inside to put them in the fridge to see if refrigerator temps will trigger them and to my surprise there was pins!!


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Re: Wood blewit / clitocybe nuda cultivation thread [Re: 7Suns]
    #28422564 - 08/05/23 10:55 PM (5 months, 20 days ago)

Also wanted to mention that only 2 out of 4 trays pinned and the thing they had in common is that they only pined where the mycelium had overlayed the casing leading me to believe they don’t want a casing layer

One tray got complete dehydrated on the coir casing lay (soaking it tonight hopefully it revives)  otherwise it was overlayed and would probably also be pinning right now

The 3rd tray did not pin and it didn’t have any overlay at all only a few rhizomorphs barley broke the surface of the casing probably because of how thick I made it

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Re: Wood blewit / clitocybe nuda cultivation thread [Re: 7Suns]
    #28422761 - 08/06/23 07:39 AM (5 months, 20 days ago)

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Re: Wood blewit / clitocybe nuda cultivation thread [Re: Moria841]
    #28422840 - 08/06/23 09:23 AM (5 months, 20 days ago)

Cool
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Re: Wood blewit / clitocybe nuda cultivation thread [Re: Land Trout]
    #28422854 - 08/06/23 09:38 AM (5 months, 20 days ago)

Fuckin’ nice! I put a bag in the fruiting tent a month or so ago so perfect timing as I was getting close to tossing it. Will let it ride a bit longer now. Thanks for sharing!


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Re: Wood blewit / clitocybe nuda cultivation thread [Re: Southerner]
    #28423003 - 08/06/23 11:42 AM (5 months, 20 days ago)

So I should also mention from my reading, co2 build up during colonization is a trigger mechanism so me leaving the lids on the trays after full colonization and overlay of the substrate is another potential factor

And I believe the nights that the temps dipped down to 60f is another potential factor, from reading it appears they won’t fruit unless it’s below 62f

I run a window unit in a 20x20 finished in insulated garage, with the back room (used for colonization) not temperature controlled if anyone was wondering why I had temperature fluctuations it’s because of the window unit + insulation not being “adequate” to maintain temperature, I have a second unit about to be installed but I have to rewire the garage first

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Re: Wood blewit / clitocybe nuda cultivation thread [Re: 7Suns]
    #28423027 - 08/06/23 11:57 AM (5 months, 20 days ago)

Oh and another update, one of the 2 tubs that’s pinning got put too close to my 10 head ultrasonic fogger and over saturated one of the trays so the pins look sad, I moved it hopefully they don’t abort :sad:


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Re: Wood blewit / clitocybe nuda cultivation thread [Re: 7Suns]
    #28424887 - 08/07/23 08:21 PM (5 months, 18 days ago)

Not much to look at but this is the bag I have in the tent. Took a long time to colonize so I’m sure it’s a bit bacterial at the least but it hasn’t gotten gross so letting it ride. Wild L. nuda clone.




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Re: Wood blewit / clitocybe nuda cultivation thread [Re: Southerner]
    #28425126 - 08/07/23 10:36 PM (5 months, 18 days ago)

Try wheat straw next time for nuda and sordida I find it’s more analogous to pine needles 80/1 c/n ratio and leaf litter 60/1 c/n ratio

It rips through it pretty quickly and no need to supplement just pasteurize and go, I believe straw is 75/1 carbon to nitrogen so it’s in that sweet spot


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    #28428415 - 08/10/23 01:11 PM (5 months, 16 days ago)

Well it’s been under fruiting conditions for the past 4 days and the pins haven’t budged, still the same size, on the plus side they look healthy but they aren’t getting any bigger… I don’t get it temps have been around 62f 90%humidity fae every 30 minutes idk what gives :shrug:


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    #28431831 - 08/13/23 02:32 AM (5 months, 13 days ago)

Going on a week since pins were initiated, I don’t understand why I have pins but they refuse to budge, they’re just there taunting me :grrr::doublefu:

You would think if they pin they would keep doing whatever they’re doing and get bigger or either abort…… I guess they got stuck loading lmao  :lol:


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Re: Wood blewit / clitocybe nuda cultivation thread [Re: 7Suns]
    #28432928 - 08/13/23 09:35 PM (5 months, 12 days ago)

They like colder temperatures.


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    #28433060 - 08/14/23 01:07 AM (5 months, 12 days ago)

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They like colder temperatures.



Funny thing is they didn’t pin until I moved them into the warmer back room lmao

I do have some trays in the fridge that I dunked over night, testing to see if that’s too cold or if it will help motivate them


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Re: Wood blewit / clitocybe nuda cultivation thread [Re: 7Suns]
    #28434285 - 08/14/23 08:02 PM (5 months, 11 days ago)

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Try wheat straw next time for nuda and sordida I find it’s more analogous to pine needles 80/1 c/n ratio and leaf litter 60/1 c/n ratio

It rips through it pretty quickly and no need to supplement just pasteurize and go, I believe straw is 75/1 carbon to nitrogen so it’s in that sweet spot




Might try that once it cools down a bit. I’d really like to find a culture that can grow on that same sub as the rest but it may not work out that way. Hopefully this fall I can find a few more wild ones to print and get some clean cultures going. For now I’ll let this one keep going with my fingers crossed.

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    #28434758 - 08/15/23 09:26 AM (5 months, 11 days ago)

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Nine days and they haven’t budged or aborted? That’s a headscratcher :lol:




Lmao tell me about it, it’s driving me up the wall I finally think I got something and now it’s just taunting me lmao


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    #28452610 - 08/30/23 05:19 PM (4 months, 27 days ago)

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Re: Wood blewit / clitocybe nuda cultivation thread [Re: lastine]
    #28453353 - 08/31/23 09:15 AM (4 months, 26 days ago)

The tubs I soaked and put in the fridge fluffed up big time after I took them out of the fridge I’m actually surprised



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    #28481549 - 09/24/23 08:05 PM (4 months, 1 day ago)

I’m trying really hard not to get too excited but a beautiful accident happened in the lab today I went to clean out the fruit chamber after running a bunch of shiitake blocks and reishi logs.

I had left the 2 tubs that had the stalled hyphae knots / primordia, in the fruit chamber, and I had them stacked crisscross, they were probably in the fruit chamber for 1.5 months and I was ready to give up on them tonight since I was about to bleach down the chamber and refresh everything for my next run….. well the top tub wasn’t doing anything so when I picked it up and found a fat cluster of healthy pins on the second tray underneath I had to do a double take, they don’t look exactly like I would imagine blewit pins to look but I’m optimistic

If anything I would describe their appearance as a cross between a shiitake and a cubensis, I know for sure it’s not a cube and there’s no way my shiitake would have cross contaminated and fruited from plain coco coir casing


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Re: Wood blewit / clitocybe nuda cultivation thread [Re: 7Suns]
    #28481732 - 09/24/23 09:06 PM (4 months, 1 day ago)

Not Lepista, when they fruit the mycelium around the pins turns purplish. Maybe P. cubensis.


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    #28481753 - 09/24/23 09:13 PM (4 months, 1 day ago)

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Not Lepista, when they fruit the mycelium around the pins turns purplish. Maybe P. cubensis.




Not cubes, I don’t cultivate cubes so there’s 0 chance of that lol… however I’m kicking myself in the ass right now because if you look back through the post I actually did multiple different strains at the same time and wine caps were one of the other strains….. after looking at some pics of wine cap pins I would put my money on it being a mislabeled wine cap :cryariver::hissyfit::foreheadslap:

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Re: Wood blewit / clitocybe nuda cultivation thread [Re: 7Suns]
    #28481761 - 09/24/23 09:15 PM (4 months, 1 day ago)

Hah, that could be Stropharia!


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Re: Wood blewit / clitocybe nuda cultivation thread [Re: falcon] * 1
    #28481914 - 09/24/23 10:39 PM (4 months, 1 day ago)

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Re: Wood blewit / clitocybe nuda cultivation thread [Re: deadmandave]
    #28482041 - 09/25/23 06:10 AM (4 months, 1 day ago)

Yeah, I didn't get Wine Caps to fruit indoors the couple times I tried.


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Re: Wood blewit / clitocybe nuda cultivation thread [Re: falcon]
    #28482687 - 09/25/23 05:42 PM (4 months, 1 day ago)

:lol: That’s a badass oopsy-daisy!


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Re: Wood blewit / clitocybe nuda cultivation thread [Re: Southerner] * 1
    #28482926 - 09/25/23 07:53 PM (4 months, 22 hours ago)

Southerner that’s my favorite comment lmao :lol:

Also I threw them back in the fruiting chamber and cranked up the mister, they doubled in size overnight almost as thick around as my thumb



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    #28483752 - 09/26/23 02:02 PM (4 months, 3 hours ago)

Day 3 they’re starting to stretch out, definitely looking more and more like a wine cap lmao



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    #28483761 - 09/26/23 02:07 PM (4 months, 3 hours ago)

Hey so guys if these are wine caps then that means I just debunked the need for live soil microbes etc etc because everything used was sterilized or pasteurized


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    #28483779 - 09/26/23 02:24 PM (4 months, 3 hours ago)

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Re: Wood blewit / clitocybe nuda cultivation thread [Re: thirdeyewild]
    #28484288 - 09/26/23 10:01 PM (3 months, 30 days ago)

Yes I was thinking about previous information regarding the necessity of a biologically active soil needed for the fruiting of stropharia... Interesting.

What's to say your fruiting area did not allow for simple microbial growth on the surface of the block? How long again where the blocks in the fc?


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Re: Wood blewit / clitocybe nuda cultivation thread [Re: deadmandave]
    #28484388 - 09/27/23 04:48 AM (3 months, 30 days ago)

6 months but they where cased with coconut coir which doesn’t really offer much for nutrients, also keep in mind I got them to pin in 2-3 months but they stalled because conditions weren’t right, so I don’t think it’s microbial at all, I’ll try to replicate it and see if I can’t dial it in to get them to fruit sooner now that I have a better understanding of the triggers


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    #28484460 - 09/27/23 07:51 AM (3 months, 30 days ago)

Morning of day 4 the veils have broken and spores have started to drop, what’s everyone’s recommendations? Do I pick them now or let them keep growing? I hate how out of place and fake they look, if I didn’t keep a daily photo log I wouldn’t believe they grew like that lmao they look placed there :foreheadslap:

I took them outside for better lighting, what’s everyone’s opinions do you guys agree they are wine caps? I’ve never grown wine caps Or foraged them but from my field guide and all the information online I’m feeling confident they are and might try cooking them up soon





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    #28484711 - 09/27/23 12:29 PM (3 months, 30 days ago)

If you want to eat them pick sooner than later. Ideally before the veil breaks.

They were in the fc for six months???


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Re: Wood blewit / clitocybe nuda cultivation thread [Re: deadmandave] * 1
    #28484739 - 09/27/23 01:07 PM (3 months, 30 days ago)

No they were only in the fruit chamber for 1.5 months but i spawned them to straw 6 months ago, so if you go through this thread you should be able to get a more accurate time line but I believe they colonized oats quart jars in 2 weeks, then they colonized the wheat straw substrate in another 2 weeks, and then I put them in the fruit chamber for a week or 2 but nothing happened so I put the lids back on and left them to rest for a few months until I noticed pins and that’s when I moved them back into the fruit chamber, but don’t quote me on it I actually need to look back over the post myself to confirm


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Re: Wood blewit / clitocybe nuda cultivation thread [Re: 7Suns]
    #28484823 - 09/27/23 02:27 PM (3 months, 30 days ago)

Man that’s awesome. Congratulations on the grow! Don’t believe I’ve seen anyone else pull that off.


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Re: Wood blewit / clitocybe nuda cultivation thread [Re: Southerner] * 3
    #28485229 - 09/27/23 08:48 PM (3 months, 29 days ago)

Final pics and harvest, I’m not holding my breath but I think I understand what they need to trigger fruiting now :takingnotes:

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Re: Wood blewit / clitocybe nuda cultivation thread [Re: 7Suns] * 2
    #28485785 - 09/28/23 01:10 PM (3 months, 29 days ago)



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    #28485871 - 09/28/23 02:52 PM (3 months, 29 days ago)

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Looks like wine caps to me... :thumbup:
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Re: Wood blewit / clitocybe nuda cultivation thread [Re: 7Suns] * 1
    #28486035 - 09/28/23 06:01 PM (3 months, 28 days ago)

Holy shit guys I just proved (at least for myself) my own theory about not needing a biologically active soil or casing, in fact based on my observations I took it a step further and got them to pin without a casing layer at all ….. this is exciting shit!!!!!

I’m fairly confident I’ve satisfactorily replicated the necessary conditions to trigger fruiting and will be doing more tubs now to demonstrate my new found understanding and the crazy thing is this was my suspicion for other species that still haven’t been figured out and will possibly double back and try this with morels and a few others

(I should probably clarify because I’m sure someone will point it out but all 4 of these trays were originally cased with coconut coir but 2 of them stalled so hard I scraped all the coir off those 2 trays and even went as far as to rinse off any lose coir…. So yes there is some residual coir left that didn’t get scraped or washed off but that isn’t what triggered the pins it was the next step that has sent them into fruiting in my strongest opinion lol even did a happy dance :awesomenod:)

We will see soon enough if these pins keep fattening up but I have noticed a few doubled in size since  and am pretty confident at this point

Pics of the pins on the other tubs that got scraped and rinsed



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Re: Wood blewit / clitocybe nuda cultivation thread [Re: 7Suns]
    #28486397 - 09/29/23 03:25 AM (3 months, 28 days ago)

Good job figuring out your hypothesis and being able to reproduce results. I am also of the opinion, that "active soil" or microorganisms are not stringently required to trigger fructification in most species, where there are still difficulties to cultivate them under controlled conditions.
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Re: Wood blewit / clitocybe nuda cultivation thread [Re: ohkw] * 2
    #28486709 - 09/29/23 12:03 PM (3 months, 28 days ago)

I got 18 double ended Q-tip swabs from this cluster I’m going to make a giveaway thread over in market place if anyone is interested :thumbup:

The wife cooked some up today, the open caps were metallic and bitter from the spores but the stems were meaty and nutty very good just have to pick them younger, but none of this was intentional just glad we got something period


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Re: Wood blewit / clitocybe nuda cultivation thread [Re: 7Suns]
    #28487067 - 09/29/23 08:16 PM (3 months, 27 days ago)

:vibin: That’s badass man! Nice work as well speeker!


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Re: Wood blewit / clitocybe nuda cultivation thread [Re: Southerner] * 2
    #28487568 - 09/30/23 09:23 AM (3 months, 27 days ago)

Today’s pics of the tubs without casing, the pins are in fact getting bigger!!!  They will be ready to move into the fruit chamber soon



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Re: Wood blewit / clitocybe nuda cultivation thread [Re: 7Suns]
    #28488200 - 09/30/23 08:28 PM (3 months, 26 days ago)

:popcorn:

Great stuff guys!!

I have a nice print from a thicc wild specimen I will put on Agar later this week to join in on the fun


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Re: Wood blewit / clitocybe nuda cultivation thread [Re: bio_alchemist] * 2
    #28488786 - 10/01/23 11:56 AM (3 months, 26 days ago)






Welcome the newest members of my wine cap family, except this time I intentionally and successfully initiated these to fruit based on my previous observations of the accidental cluster That just grew, after these mature and I harvest them I plan on force inducing them again using a different strategy that I’m hoping yields better, this attempt looks like it’s only going to be the 2 fat pins to mature the rest will probably remain dormant until better conditions are provided, I’m just stoked that I’m starting to understand their physiology

I do plan on going back to using a sterile or pasteurized casing layer like peat or coir

Probably going to make it much thinner this time around

I don’t want to say too much until I have consistent success but I think the key elements that everyone has missed with this strain is timing and a micro climate…. After comparing dozens of pictures of them fruiting in outdoor beds as well as a few other indoor success stories, and now my own accidental success followed up with my theory being proven by forced induction without a casing layer, I believe it all boils down to those 2 key processes


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Re: Wood blewit / clitocybe nuda cultivation thread [Re: 7Suns]
    #28489731 - 10/02/23 08:04 AM (3 months, 25 days ago)

Very cool.


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Re: Wood blewit / clitocybe nuda cultivation thread [Re: Land Trout]
    #28489837 - 10/02/23 10:01 AM (3 months, 25 days ago)




The second pin probably wasn’t ready to go into the fruit chamber because there was no visible color to the cap so it might stall but the bigger one with the wine color starting to show is doing excellent


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Re: Wood blewit / clitocybe nuda cultivation thread [Re: 7Suns]
    #28492851 - 10/05/23 08:09 AM (3 months, 22 days ago)





The one little pin is still growing the rest are stalled until I induce them again


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Re: Wood blewit / clitocybe nuda cultivation thread [Re: 7Suns] * 2
    #28494851 - 10/06/23 08:00 PM (3 months, 20 days ago)








Just harvested the single pin that I was able to induced, I think I’m going to tinker with these tubs a little bit longer, see if I can’t try different methods to force them to fruit more abundantly,

after these fizzle out I’ll probably start a bulk project to see if I can’t get a few lbs indoors successfully, if that goes well then I’ll probably do an official write up for everyone so we can all enjoy indoor bug free wine caps :cool::thumbup:


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Re: Wood blewit / clitocybe nuda cultivation thread [Re: 7Suns]
    #28520410 - 10/27/23 06:10 PM (2 months, 30 days ago)

WoW!

How long does it takes to fruit after full colonization?


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Re: Wood blewit / clitocybe nuda cultivation thread [Re: lastine]
    #28521224 - 10/28/23 02:14 PM (2 months, 30 days ago)

This took almost 6 months but I think that’s because I was missing the fruiting triggers it needed, it probably would have fruited after 2 - 3 months if I knew sooner


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Re: Wood blewit / clitocybe nuda cultivation thread [Re: 7Suns] * 1
    #28521935 - 10/29/23 04:06 AM (2 months, 29 days ago)

So it was straw trays 6 months ago :smile:

Amazed to see it fruit without casing!!!

I'm hoping my wine cap sawdust block goes well(currently 1 month colonizing)


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    #28522042 - 10/29/23 08:14 AM (2 months, 29 days ago)

How far along is yours?


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Re: Wood blewit / clitocybe nuda cultivation thread [Re: 7Suns]
    #28522296 - 10/29/23 12:26 PM (2 months, 29 days ago)

I have wine cap and golden wine cap.

Working on cakes, big bags, small bags simultaneously.

Its all sawdust+wheat bran substrate, takes about month to colonize.

cakes finished colonizing, and I cased with ordinary garden soil
(cakes are not taken outside, its in jars like bottle / bags are still colonizing)

temperature is 25C

the cakes are slightly old, I sent it to fruiting tub late
due to high contamination rate in my room

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Re: Wood blewit / clitocybe nuda cultivation thread [Re: lastine]
    #28522501 - 10/29/23 03:22 PM (2 months, 29 days ago)

No age isn’t an issue with this species mine are over half a year and still fruiting


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Re: Wood blewit / clitocybe nuda cultivation thread [Re: 7Suns]
    #28569645 - 12/05/23 10:13 AM (1 month, 23 days ago)

I wish I noted the date in the plate, but it had to have been about two years old, pulled it right out of the fridge and put it to grain on the 1st and it’s taking off pretty well

I’ve got a good looking clone from this local patch on agar as well.

I made a lot of blocks a couple years back, but I think my timing and placement was off. After finally finding them growing on their own I’ve learned a lot more about them, so I’ve got a few more ideas of better places to put them.


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