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Re: Wood blewit / clitocybe nuda cultivation thread [Re: 7Suns]
#28484823 - 09/27/23 02:27 PM (3 months, 30 days ago) |
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Man that’s awesome. Congratulations on the grow! Don’t believe I’ve seen anyone else pull that off.
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Re: Wood blewit / clitocybe nuda cultivation thread [Re: Southerner] 3
#28485229 - 09/27/23 08:48 PM (3 months, 29 days ago) |
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Final pics and harvest, I’m not holding my breath but I think I understand what they need to trigger fruiting now 
I’m really proud of my little cluster lol
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Re: Wood blewit / clitocybe nuda cultivation thread [Re: 7Suns] 2
#28485785 - 09/28/23 01:10 PM (3 months, 29 days ago) |
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Re: Wood blewit / clitocybe nuda cultivation thread [Re: Speeker]
#28485871 - 09/28/23 02:52 PM (3 months, 29 days ago) |
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Quote:
Speeker said: Looks like wine caps to me...  Mine: https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/3335807
Got a minute to PM me I’d love to compare some notes on your experience with SRA indoors
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Re: Wood blewit / clitocybe nuda cultivation thread [Re: 7Suns] 1
#28486035 - 09/28/23 06:01 PM (3 months, 28 days ago) |
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Holy shit guys I just proved (at least for myself) my own theory about not needing a biologically active soil or casing, in fact based on my observations I took it a step further and got them to pin without a casing layer at all ….. this is exciting shit!!!!!
I’m fairly confident I’ve satisfactorily replicated the necessary conditions to trigger fruiting and will be doing more tubs now to demonstrate my new found understanding and the crazy thing is this was my suspicion for other species that still haven’t been figured out and will possibly double back and try this with morels and a few others
(I should probably clarify because I’m sure someone will point it out but all 4 of these trays were originally cased with coconut coir but 2 of them stalled so hard I scraped all the coir off those 2 trays and even went as far as to rinse off any lose coir…. So yes there is some residual coir left that didn’t get scraped or washed off but that isn’t what triggered the pins it was the next step that has sent them into fruiting in my strongest opinion lol even did a happy dance )
We will see soon enough if these pins keep fattening up but I have noticed a few doubled in size since and am pretty confident at this point
Pics of the pins on the other tubs that got scraped and rinsed
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Re: Wood blewit / clitocybe nuda cultivation thread [Re: 7Suns]
#28486397 - 09/29/23 03:25 AM (3 months, 28 days ago) |
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Good job figuring out your hypothesis and being able to reproduce results. I am also of the opinion, that "active soil" or microorganisms are not stringently required to trigger fructification in most species, where there are still difficulties to cultivate them under controlled conditions. Always happy to read reports from people trying something new.
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Re: Wood blewit / clitocybe nuda cultivation thread [Re: ohkw] 2
#28486709 - 09/29/23 12:03 PM (3 months, 28 days ago) |
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I got 18 double ended Q-tip swabs from this cluster I’m going to make a giveaway thread over in market place if anyone is interested 
The wife cooked some up today, the open caps were metallic and bitter from the spores but the stems were meaty and nutty very good just have to pick them younger, but none of this was intentional just glad we got something period
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Re: Wood blewit / clitocybe nuda cultivation thread [Re: 7Suns]
#28487067 - 09/29/23 08:16 PM (3 months, 27 days ago) |
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That’s badass man! Nice work as well speeker!
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Re: Wood blewit / clitocybe nuda cultivation thread [Re: Southerner] 2
#28487568 - 09/30/23 09:23 AM (3 months, 27 days ago) |
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Today’s pics of the tubs without casing, the pins are in fact getting bigger!!! They will be ready to move into the fruit chamber soon
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Re: Wood blewit / clitocybe nuda cultivation thread [Re: 7Suns]
#28488200 - 09/30/23 08:28 PM (3 months, 26 days ago) |
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Great stuff guys!!
I have a nice print from a thicc wild specimen I will put on Agar later this week to join in on the fun
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Re: Wood blewit / clitocybe nuda cultivation thread [Re: bio_alchemist] 2
#28488786 - 10/01/23 11:56 AM (3 months, 26 days ago) |
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Welcome the newest members of my wine cap family, except this time I intentionally and successfully initiated these to fruit based on my previous observations of the accidental cluster That just grew, after these mature and I harvest them I plan on force inducing them again using a different strategy that I’m hoping yields better, this attempt looks like it’s only going to be the 2 fat pins to mature the rest will probably remain dormant until better conditions are provided, I’m just stoked that I’m starting to understand their physiology
I do plan on going back to using a sterile or pasteurized casing layer like peat or coir
Probably going to make it much thinner this time around
I don’t want to say too much until I have consistent success but I think the key elements that everyone has missed with this strain is timing and a micro climate…. After comparing dozens of pictures of them fruiting in outdoor beds as well as a few other indoor success stories, and now my own accidental success followed up with my theory being proven by forced induction without a casing layer, I believe it all boils down to those 2 key processes
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Re: Wood blewit / clitocybe nuda cultivation thread [Re: 7Suns]
#28489731 - 10/02/23 08:04 AM (3 months, 25 days ago) |
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Very cool.
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Re: Wood blewit / clitocybe nuda cultivation thread [Re: Land Trout]
#28489837 - 10/02/23 10:01 AM (3 months, 25 days ago) |
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The second pin probably wasn’t ready to go into the fruit chamber because there was no visible color to the cap so it might stall but the bigger one with the wine color starting to show is doing excellent
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Re: Wood blewit / clitocybe nuda cultivation thread [Re: 7Suns]
#28492851 - 10/05/23 08:09 AM (3 months, 22 days ago) |
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The one little pin is still growing the rest are stalled until I induce them again
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Re: Wood blewit / clitocybe nuda cultivation thread [Re: 7Suns] 2
#28494851 - 10/06/23 08:00 PM (3 months, 20 days ago) |
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Just harvested the single pin that I was able to induced, I think I’m going to tinker with these tubs a little bit longer, see if I can’t try different methods to force them to fruit more abundantly,
after these fizzle out I’ll probably start a bulk project to see if I can’t get a few lbs indoors successfully, if that goes well then I’ll probably do an official write up for everyone so we can all enjoy indoor bug free wine caps 
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Re: Wood blewit / clitocybe nuda cultivation thread [Re: 7Suns]
#28520410 - 10/27/23 06:10 PM (2 months, 30 days ago) |
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WoW!
How long does it takes to fruit after full colonization?
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Re: Wood blewit / clitocybe nuda cultivation thread [Re: lastine]
#28521224 - 10/28/23 02:14 PM (2 months, 30 days ago) |
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This took almost 6 months but I think that’s because I was missing the fruiting triggers it needed, it probably would have fruited after 2 - 3 months if I knew sooner
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Re: Wood blewit / clitocybe nuda cultivation thread [Re: 7Suns] 1
#28521935 - 10/29/23 04:06 AM (2 months, 29 days ago) |
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So it was straw trays 6 months ago 
Amazed to see it fruit without casing!!!
I'm hoping my wine cap sawdust block goes well(currently 1 month colonizing)
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Re: Wood blewit / clitocybe nuda cultivation thread [Re: lastine]
#28522042 - 10/29/23 08:14 AM (2 months, 29 days ago) |
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How far along is yours?
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Re: Wood blewit / clitocybe nuda cultivation thread [Re: 7Suns]
#28522296 - 10/29/23 12:26 PM (2 months, 29 days ago) |
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I have wine cap and golden wine cap.
Working on cakes, big bags, small bags simultaneously.
Its all sawdust+wheat bran substrate, takes about month to colonize.
cakes finished colonizing, and I cased with ordinary garden soil (cakes are not taken outside, its in jars like bottle / bags are still colonizing)
temperature is 25C
the cakes are slightly old, I sent it to fruiting tub late due to high contamination rate in my room
I hope the old cakes are not disadvantage to fruiting
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