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Re: Wood blewit / clitocybe nuda cultivation thread [Re: KannaKris]
#28210782 - 03/02/23 09:53 AM (10 months, 22 days ago) |
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My clitocybe nuda and clitocybe sordida cultures should be in tomorrow So I’m excited to plate those and get this ball rolling hopefully this thread picks up steam soon
Primordialkraken get your post count up so that you can get into the marketplace, and get your first trade rating and I’d gladly send you cultures after you meet those requirements
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Re: Wood blewit / clitocybe nuda cultivation thread [Re: 7Suns]
#28212796 - 03/03/23 04:40 PM (10 months, 21 days ago) |
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I wish you much luck brother
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Re: Wood blewit / clitocybe nuda cultivation thread [Re: KannaKris]
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Re: Wood blewit / clitocybe nuda cultivation thread [Re: dyel]
#28213575 - 03/04/23 06:16 AM (10 months, 20 days ago) |
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Lepista sordida colonized block came in. I only bought it to get some myc for dishes. What do you think i should do with it.? Burry it in the correct spot or spawn it indoors to pasteurized compost? Maybe case it and see if it top fruits?
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Re: Wood blewit / clitocybe nuda cultivation thread [Re: bw86]
#28214274 - 03/04/23 02:29 PM (10 months, 20 days ago) |
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bw86 said: Lepista sordida colonized block came in. I only bought it to get some myc for dishes. What do you think i should do with it.? Burry it in the correct spot or spawn it indoors to pasteurized compost? Maybe case it and see if it top fruits?
Dude, you should so try to fruit that bitch indoors and keep us posted
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Re: Wood blewit / clitocybe nuda cultivation thread [Re: KannaKris]
#28214662 - 03/04/23 06:30 PM (10 months, 19 days ago) |
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In my honest opinion I wouldn’t spawn it to manure or anything, first thing I would do is make sure you have successfully isolated a sample of it on agar then proceed straight to indoor fruiting,
Do you have a cold weather fruiting chamber?
This was my first attempt at a cold weather FC so you can get the basic idea
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/27604943/page/1
But I’ve stepped it up a bit, I hacked a window unit ac to run below 60f down to 32f and I built an 8ft foam insulated chamber with shelving and a 12 head ultrasonic fogger
But once you get that cold chamber built you should be ready to fruit, I believe it’s about a month to fruit after inducing to cold? I need to go back and look over those links to confirm, but keep in mind this is not cold shocking this is cold fruiting meaning they have to stay in cold temperatures to fruit, if you pull them out, they will stall or abort
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Re: Wood blewit / clitocybe nuda cultivation thread [Re: 7Suns]
#28214680 - 03/04/23 06:41 PM (10 months, 19 days ago) |
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do you think just leaving mine outside in the shade would indue fruiting, with these temps?
During the days it has been getting mighty warm in my shed.
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Re: Wood blewit / clitocybe nuda cultivation thread [Re: KannaKris]
#28214767 - 03/04/23 07:19 PM (10 months, 19 days ago) |
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well my martha is in my garage and the average temp is about 62...but i already spawned it  50/50 earth worm casing/coir with a hint of verm thats what I had on hand. Yeah there is probably a dozen things I would have used before that but was bored and just started to do it. The myc stuck under the flaps in the spawn bag it more than enough to get a good sample. I'll keep you updated but now that the weather is getting warmer and they need a consolidation period i don't really have hopes until fall. My only hope would have been if I dunked, cased and top fruited.
sall about havin fun though right ?
kannakris that weather does look conducive to cold weather fruit formation :fingerscrossed:
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Re: Wood blewit / clitocybe nuda cultivation thread [Re: bw86]
#28214796 - 03/04/23 07:30 PM (10 months, 19 days ago) |
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I'm going to throw mine outside then. I mean, I didn't ever expect to even get this far, so who knows what might happen!
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Re: Wood blewit / clitocybe nuda cultivation thread [Re: KannaKris]
#28214823 - 03/04/23 07:48 PM (10 months, 19 days ago) |
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get some on agar first.No agar? Sterilized wet cardboard will work.
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Re: Wood blewit / clitocybe nuda cultivation thread [Re: bw86]
#28215022 - 03/04/23 09:40 PM (10 months, 19 days ago) |
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Cultures arrived later then expected so I got them today instead of yesterday, I’ll be making plates and noc’n grain tomorrow if all goes well, I do plan on doing some unsterile experiments as well trying to “super spawn” pasteurized wood chips to open colonized outdoor bins
Kannakris your temps should be fine, I think they stop fruiting around 65f-70f
BW86 dang I wish I caught you sooner lol oh well hopefully you were able to establish an outdoor bed that comes back every year
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Re: Wood blewit / clitocybe nuda cultivation thread [Re: bw86]
#28215314 - 03/05/23 04:14 AM (10 months, 19 days ago) |
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bw86 said: get some on agar first.No agar? Sterilized wet cardboard will work.
I think I best do that, just in case! Thanks brother
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Re: Wood blewit / clitocybe nuda cultivation thread [Re: 7Suns]
#28215315 - 03/05/23 04:14 AM (10 months, 19 days ago) |
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7Suns said: Cultures arrived later then expected so I got them today instead of yesterday, I’ll be making plates and noc’n grain tomorrow if all goes well, I do plan on doing some unsterile experiments as well trying to “super spawn” pasteurized wood chips to open colonized outdoor bins
Kannakris your temps should be fine, I think they stop fruiting around 65f-70f
BW86 dang I wish I caught you sooner lol oh well hopefully you were able to establish an outdoor bed that comes back every year
Yeah, I'm going to find a good spot in the yard, and see if I can get these bad boys to fruit!
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Re: Wood blewit / clitocybe nuda cultivation thread [Re: KannaKris]
#28217242 - 03/06/23 11:22 AM (10 months, 18 days ago) |
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weird that my thread didn't show up when you searched. I got a pure slant culture in december 2020, finally got fruits last November, it took about 18 months from spawn to fruits
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/28079245#28086838
you're going to want to expand your culture and bombard whatever substrate you're spawning to with whole blocks that have been allowed to fully digest their substrate. I used sawdust and spawned to my leaf compost.
Once I had fruits, I toss all the butts into my compost, hopefully spreading that compost in my garden will yield more fruits down the line.
I got a surprise fruiting the other day during a brief lull in the winter weather. Hoping to get more before season's end.
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Re: Wood blewit / clitocybe nuda cultivation thread [Re: trubblesome]
#28217255 - 03/06/23 11:31 AM (10 months, 18 days ago) |
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oh, and good luck! I mean what could be cooler than purple fucking mushrooms? they're cute as hell to boot, especially the buttons.
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Re: Wood blewit / clitocybe nuda cultivation thread [Re: trubblesome]
#28217391 - 03/06/23 01:11 PM (10 months, 18 days ago) |
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Did you supplement your sawdust blocks? If not do you think that would make a difference? How big where they? Thank you for sharing. I have no problems waiting two years, but hopeful it can be pulled this fall(8 months). You don't think its possible?
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Re: Wood blewit / clitocybe nuda cultivation thread [Re: bw86]
#28217704 - 03/06/23 04:58 PM (10 months, 18 days ago) |
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I actually did stumble across your post but only after someone linked me in, no idea why my search function turned up null, I made it as vague as possible lmao 🤣
Good stuff tho trubblesome did you have any luck indoors?
Btw just to update I relocated my cold fruiting chamber outside since we needed the room, so I decided to tear it down a bit and rebuild it a bit better, which mostly consisted of fortifying the insulation boards with an osb board exterior and building an electrical “panel” to clean up all the crazy wiring
Also went ahead and Pc’d some jars so I’ll be inoculating jars tonight Hopefully I have the time to make master slants for my genetics bank
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#28217708 - 03/06/23 05:01 PM (10 months, 17 days ago) |
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#28217743 - 03/06/23 05:34 PM (10 months, 17 days ago) |
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bw86 said: Did you supplement your sawdust blocks? If not do you think that would make a difference? How big where they? Thank you for sharing. I have no problems waiting two years, but hopeful it can be pulled this fall(8 months). You don't think its possible?
straight sawdust, oat spawn, 5 lb blocks. I made like 10 total, two at a time, two weeks apart, let them consolidate for a few weeks after finishing colonization (til they were practically climbing out of the bag) and then just tossed them into the already composting leaf pile whole. I didn't supplement because I didn't want to give any opportunity to contams and really let the blewit get to work.
from what I understand (but don't understand why exactly) they need the two full seasons to fully digest and get ready for fruiting, but I'd never say never when it comes to mushrooms. I know for sure that they need particular bacteria to be present to trigger fruiting. It may be that they spend the second season killing off bacteria that aren't compatible with them ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ I can't pretend to know the specifics, all I know of their behavior I learned from Tradd Cotter and he said they'll only fruit in year two. They're badass though, I watched them devour a bacterial colony on a plate, it was pretty cool. I'd peep them on the scope once a day and see the hyphae boring deeper into the colony. That's why they do well in compost. Same goes for winecap.
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Good stuff tho trubblesome did you have any luck indoors?
haven't gone any further with indoor stuff for lack of basement space right now. my only attempt was before I really understood their deal and I green'd out the bag dropping a pile of composted leaves on top of a block. they pretty much liquified and drowned themselves in myc piss I think I should have let it consolidate a really good long while before introducing the leaves, like six months or so, and pasteurized the leaves before putting them in the bag. They won't fruit on a sterile medium, they absolutely 100% need bacteria present, and they NEED a hard frost snap followed by a warmer period to initiate fruiting. I would try tossing a bag that you're ready to fruit in the freezer for a day or more and then put it back in the fruiting chamber that was my plan, anyway.
The other thing I noticed is that they seem to enjoy old dropped pine needles scattered on top of the leaf pile, the places where there were clumps of pine needles on my pile were where most of my fruits came from. Indeed that's where I've found them in the wild, in piles of hardwood leaf duff under and near pine trees. maybe the needles make a more acidic environment that kills off the bacteria they don't like, or maybe they just make the perfect microclimate to provide fresh air and the right amount of humidity to the pins. Maybe both!
now that I have consistent fruits though I think that starting a bag out of butts or the "blewit bombs" that Tradd invented and I mentioned in my thread would be a better way to inoculate leaves for an indoor fruiting. Still kinda think they need a very long consolidation period though, but starting from the butts makes sure that the compatible bacteria is present in the new culture!
In any case I'm absolutely THRILLED to see this thread and that more people are growing them! the more we can discover together the better!!
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Re: Wood blewit / clitocybe nuda cultivation thread [Re: trubblesome]
#28217841 - 03/06/23 06:37 PM (10 months, 17 days ago) |
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looks fun 7suns. What kind of lighting do you use in that humid environment? Thanks for the responses troublesome +5. Personally i dont think that supplemented blocks that are consolidated have any more a reason to contam than non supplemented.I will do both. I am also going to burry some whole and break some up. Also plan to keep maybe 6 or so tubs consolidating until winter ( I would do 20+ but have so many species going on)
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