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desultoryendeavour
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Benefits from light dose?
#28177103 - 02/08/23 05:27 AM (11 months, 13 days ago) |
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I have read about the benefits of mushrooms for depression and anxiety as well as personal growth.I don't have a trip sitter so don't want to do a large dose or go the micro dose route and wanted to know if benefits can be had from taking light doses occasionally. Thanks
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The answer would most likely be yes. Of course the mushrooms themselves may not help much without the proper intention and preparation. In my opinion it is much better to start low and go slow. Especially if you don't have a tripsitter. Some people here will insist that you should start with a higher dose but the research shows improved benefits when starting with lower doses and increasing them as you gain more experience (http://tripsafe.org). Despite progress in the field of psychedelics there are many things we don't know. For this reason we should keep in mind that we are experimenting with ourselves but mushrooms seem to be safe for most people.
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Re: Benefits from light dose? [Re: VP123] 2
#28178569 - 02/09/23 12:07 AM (11 months, 12 days ago) |
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I have had some wonderful full-bodied trips in the past, but at the moment, such mini-doses are all I have the time for. I can attest that they are generally positive, beneficial experiences. When it's a nice day out, eat a mushroom, and enjoy the little boost it gives you. It tends to stick with me for a few hours and can brighten up my whole day.
Only thing to note is that sometimes I get a bunch of queasiness and only a little enjoyment, but that is rare.
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Re: Benefits from light dose? [Re: asmr]
#28178575 - 02/09/23 12:17 AM (11 months, 12 days ago) |
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Thank you for the replies. Good to hear that there are benefits from smaller doses.
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Hey. I started "treating" my depression with shrooms. And I went with 2 or 3 grams. The more heavy trips always felt like a waste of a trip to me since i couldn't recall or really analyze after the fact. They were ofcourse awesome in their own sense. But still didn't really feel beneficial to me. It took me a long time to see their effects on my depression after the initial honeymoon period was over. I'd also like to point out that shrooms alone didn't help me. I also did therapy. I think someone pointed out a really nice comparison here. A mushroom trip is like a tent you can sleep in while your house is burning. You basically have a place to stay while you deal with the burning house. It definitely helped me. Since shrooms can be dangerous to those with bad mental health. You should definitely start off with smaller doses. If you are a regular sized human go with 2grams. Even if your first trip isn't "impressive" or visually "magical" the fact that psilocin is in your body will be the important part IMO. And don't be greedy or impatient. Rushing into high doses can cause psychosis or other issues. Read as much as you can about how to deal solo with bad trips. there are ways to deal with it when bad trips happen. I've always done it solo. Its way too personal for me to trip in a group. Good luck my guy.
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Well said IchorPetrichor
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IchorPetrichor said: Hey. I started "treating" my depression with shrooms. And I went with 2 or 3 grams. The more heavy trips always felt like a waste of a trip to me since i couldn't recall or really analyze after the fact. They were ofcourse awesome in their own sense. But still didn't really feel beneficial to me. It took me a long time to see their effects on my depression after the initial honeymoon period was over. I'd also like to point out that shrooms alone didn't help me. I also did therapy. I think someone pointed out a really nice comparison here. A mushroom trip is like a tent you can sleep in while your house is burning. You basically have a place to stay while you deal with the burning house. It definitely helped me. Since shrooms can be dangerous to those with bad mental health. You should definitely start off with smaller doses. If you are a regular sized human go with 2grams. Even if your first trip isn't "impressive" or visually "magical" the fact that psilocin is in your body will be the important part IMO. And don't be greedy or impatient. Rushing into high doses can cause psychosis or other issues. Read as much as you can about how to deal solo with bad trips. there are ways to deal with it when bad trips happen. I've always done it solo. Its way too personal for me to trip in a group. Good luck my guy.
Ichor, I absolutely agree with what you said except for the dosage recommendation. One shouldn't forget individual differences in sensitivity. For me, a "small dose" would be something like 0.5g. 1g already gives me a profound distortion of perception (aka trip), whereas my partner only has mild effects on that dose. I haven't tried 2g yet and I'm glad I didn't start with that amount. Everybody's different in terms of brain chemistry as well as in categorizing the effects. What would be a medium or high dose for you?
Small doses definitely have a benefit for me, concerning depression and anxiety. Maybe even more than (my kind of) higher ones. But I'm still experimenting and not sure if I would also need additional treatment or therapy. I can totally relate to the "honeymoon period" and I'm not sure what comes next.
The most enjoyable trip experiences I had together with my partner. But we have a strong bond of trust and affection so it wouldn't be the same with just a random person.
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...if benefits can be had from taking light doses occasionally.
Yes.
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IchorPetrichor
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I think you make some great points on the dosage sensitivity. And I agree that its always better to start on lower dosages. I think i won't change my initial response just so yours would make sense. The amount of actives you get from shrooms depends on so many factors its really hard to calculate initial doses. GT vs APE is a massive difference. Every batch is different anyway. I started my experiences with what looked like 2g GT. Then I definitely started abusing the escape mechanism i got from shrooms. So i started going hard weekly. doing heavy trips of 4 or 5G. Then 10g. At one point i did 15g. I was struggling with the idea that people were seeing things that i never had seen in my trips. I "wanted" what i didn't have. I definitely lost sight of what was important. That was foolish of me. So at some point i got some real horrible trips thanks to being as careless as i was. I had panic attacks. Ruined my relationship with shrooms since every time I tried to dose i got way too anxious. There were heavy trips where i got into thoughtloops of believing i was in my own personal hell. I believe i was bordering psychosis. I think any kind of comment that focuses on moderation is a great thing. I personally never saw 1 or 2 gram trips of GT to be insightful. The only upside of those trips was the fact that i had the actives in my system which is the most important part if you don't have traumas to "fix." and just want to focus on getting some relief for depression for example. And ofcourse what works for one person might not work for another. So what doesn't work for me might work for you.
Edited by IchorPetrichor (02/25/23 02:11 AM)
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Thank you for sharing your personal experience! Mushrooms are generally considered much safer than other drugs but I think it's good to know the possible downsides. And of course one can abuse them as an escape mechanism, as almost every other mind altering substance. Seems you learned the hard way but nevertheless you did, which is what counts in the end. I have the same feeling that having the substance in your body, doing it's thing, is more important than what you experience while tripping. One time I was watching a woodkid video on shrooms and it was the scariest thing I've ever seen, but still the trip was quite positive and the following days I was full of energy.
My main aim using mushrooms is alleviating my depressive symptoms but also to get new insights and find ways to deal with this crazy world. No traumas from the past, it's the future that scares me and I have substantial reasons for that. So let's see what the shrooms can do for me.
-------------------- Nothing in life is to be feared, it is only to be understood. -Marie Curie
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