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burntkitty


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In a capitalist democracy
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Should you be paid to vote? If so in what capacity? They always say 'you get to vote with your dollar' but that's clearly a lie.
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Re: In a capitalist democracy [Re: burntkitty]
#28169399 - 02/02/23 04:01 PM (11 months, 18 days ago) |
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Most folks feel obligated to vote out of a sense of civic duty
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Re: In a capitalist democracy [Re: burntkitty]
#28169481 - 02/02/23 04:49 PM (11 months, 18 days ago) |
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hmmm, I say this is a political thread.
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You should have to pay to vote
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Re: In a capitalist democracy [Re: burntkitty] 1
#28170086 - 02/02/23 11:22 PM (11 months, 17 days ago) |
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Under what is plainly called Communism, they believed that overproduction was like the original sin of the Bible, from which all other social ills originated. Original or primitive accumulation of food, resources, and wealth could be used to enslave a person or to raise an army, illegitimately. Hoards of grain would be pulled out from under the proles' houses, it would be burned in the middle of the street, and they would be shot.
It might be considered the opposite of timocracy, in which the privilege of participating in public life was reserved for those who could feed their constituency. Some stakeholder would have to be able to harvest enough grain, before he was allowed to serve in the army or participate in politics, according to different tiers of rank. The winner was chosen by sortition or random drawing, from amongst the eligible.
The source of capital, as we know it, is a Fifth Plank lending monopoly. We have a Board of Equalization, regressive taxation, artificial scarcity, and victimhood narratives against the successful. Self-sufficient manors and rich hotels have been converted to public housing, reminiscing of Cuba.
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Re: In a capitalist democracy (moved) [Re: burntkitty]
#28170091 - 02/02/23 11:30 PM (11 months, 17 days ago) |
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This thread was moved from The Pub.
Reason: political question might be better here.
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Re: In a capitalist democracy (moved) [Re: Lucis]
#28170093 - 02/02/23 11:35 PM (11 months, 17 days ago) |
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In a social, people's, or democratic republic, it’s not who votes that counts; it’s who counts the vote.
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Re: In a capitalist democracy (moved) [Re: durian_2008]
#28170236 - 02/03/23 03:25 AM (11 months, 17 days ago) |
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durian_2008 said: In a social, people's, or democratic republic, it’s not who votes that counts; it’s who counts the vote.
what I've been saying, good quotes like these how I shat out qanon. If the shit hole im in is a democratic republic than the country I was thinking of is a capitalist democracy. Never in time has it been so easy to est a democratic democracy and proof the vote. Thomas Jefferson and Benjamin Franklin would be ashamed.
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Re: In a capitalist democracy (moved) [Re: burntkitty]
#28170431 - 02/03/23 07:36 AM (11 months, 17 days ago) |
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In many cases, “suspect” tallies were subject to recounts and extra scrutiny. No discrepancies were ever found. Even the entirely partisan recount that was conducted in Arizona found nothing.
It’s fucking shameful that people can’t accept an electoral loss with dignity after two years, and now this total nutcase Kari Lake has spent three months claiming she’s the actual governor of Arizona.
The other day when I was looking into the regulations concerning campaign contributions, I came across this:
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Funds raised and spent by a candidate or a state party committee to pay recount and election contest expenses resulting from the general election are subject to the amount limitations, source prohibitions and reporting requirements of the Federal Election Campaign Act, but are not contributions or expenditures.
Therefore, donations to a recount fund established by a federal candidate may not exceed $3,300 per person or $5,000 per multicandidate political committee. Donations to a federal candidate’s recount fund are not “contributions” and therefore are not aggregated with contributions to the candidate for the general election.
As long as Trump is contesting the 2020 election, he gets to raise money on it. Even if someone maxed out their donations to trump for the actual campaign, that person can donate again to the legal fund and unspent contributions can be redirected to another political campaign as the candidate wishes.
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burntkitty


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Re: In a capitalist democracy (moved) [Re: burntkitty]
#28197601 - 02/21/23 03:04 PM (10 months, 30 days ago) |
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All we need is to allow a system where you can see how your neighbor voted to confirm legitimacy of the region being red blue or green. Since I don't know who my neighbor voted for I got no proof do I?
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Re: In a capitalist democracy (moved) [Re: koods] 1
#28197636 - 02/21/23 03:33 PM (10 months, 30 days ago) |
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koods said: In many cases, “suspect” tallies were subject to recounts and extra scrutiny. No discrepancies were ever found. Even the entirely partisan recount that was conducted in Arizona found nothing.
It’s fucking shameful that people can’t accept an electoral loss with dignity after two years, and now this total nutcase Kari Lake has spent three months claiming she’s the actual governor of Arizona.
The other day when I was looking into the regulations concerning campaign contributions, I came across this:
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Funds raised and spent by a candidate or a state party committee to pay recount and election contest expenses resulting from the general election are subject to the amount limitations, source prohibitions and reporting requirements of the Federal Election Campaign Act, but are not contributions or expenditures.
Therefore, donations to a recount fund established by a federal candidate may not exceed $3,300 per person or $5,000 per multicandidate political committee. Donations to a federal candidate’s recount fund are not “contributions” and therefore are not aggregated with contributions to the candidate for the general election.
As long as Trump is contesting the 2020 election, he gets to raise money on it. Even if someone maxed out their donations to trump for the actual campaign, that person can donate again to the legal fund and unspent contributions can be redirected to another political campaign as the candidate wishes.
It's hilarious. They said dems were crying foul when Hilary lost and that they just couldn't accept the out come. Now look at these cry babies. When someone pre emptively says that "if I lose, then you know they cheated", you know they're setting up a lie.
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Re: In a capitalist democracy (moved) [Re: burntkitty]
#28197721 - 02/21/23 04:22 PM (10 months, 30 days ago) |
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burntkitty said: All we need is to allow a system where you can see how your neighbor voted to confirm legitimacy of the region being red blue or green. Since I don't know who my neighbor voted for I got no proof do I?
Have you never saw the blue or red signs in ppls yards at election time, that is the beacon you quest for.
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Re: In a capitalist democracy [Re: burntkitty]
#28197890 - 02/21/23 06:13 PM (10 months, 30 days ago) |
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burntkitty said: Should you be paid to vote? If so in what capacity? They always say 'you get to vote with your dollar' but that's clearly a lie.
In a capitalist democracy you vote for resource allocation to your preferred group and away from your non-preferred group. You already get paid.
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Re: In a capitalist democracy (moved) [Re: burntkitty]
#28197901 - 02/21/23 06:20 PM (10 months, 30 days ago) |
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burntkitty said: All we need is to allow a system where you can see how your neighbor voted to confirm legitimacy of the region being red blue or green. Since I don't know who my neighbor voted for I got no proof do I?
This is a great way for me to check and make sure that my neighbor voted the right way.
With some friends and some baseball bats.
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Re: In a capitalist democracy (moved) [Re: Kryptos]
#28197941 - 02/21/23 06:42 PM (10 months, 30 days ago) |
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None of my neighbors are racist assholes , I know who they voted for .
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Re: In a capitalist democracy (moved) [Re: Psilynut2]
#28198042 - 02/21/23 07:33 PM (10 months, 30 days ago) |
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It's a rhetorical for those among us who live in less...enlightened...areas.
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Re: In a capitalist democracy (moved) [Re: Kryptos]
#28198224 - 02/21/23 08:58 PM (10 months, 29 days ago) |
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I live in rural Michigan and it's definitely bluer than one would think. You might even see a lifted F250 with a donkey sticker. Legislature and Governor majority Dem. Trump also lost here in 2020. We are talking Repubes have no message to the point they lost the redneck vote.
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Re: In a capitalist democracy (moved) [Re: SirTripAlot]
#28198450 - 02/21/23 11:13 PM (10 months, 29 days ago) |
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The most partisan places in the country have maybe an 80/20 split, that is not relevant to the fact that politics is the kind of thing that people get heated enough over to maybe grab a pitchfork. Or an AR-15, in the US. IED in the middle east...etc.
Well, it might be relevant in the fact that it means there are potential targets everywhere. Hence, secret ballot.
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Re: In a capitalist democracy (moved) [Re: Kryptos]
#28204620 - 02/25/23 08:02 PM (10 months, 26 days ago) |
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Kryptos said:
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burntkitty said: All we need is to allow a system where you can see how your neighbor voted to confirm legitimacy of the region being red blue or green. Since I don't know who my neighbor voted for I got no proof do I?
This is a great way for me to check and make sure that my neighbor voted the right way.
With some friends and some baseball bats.
you want us to trust those counting the vote though? satanist thinking I haven't owned a gun in the last the few years is another reason why I'm still alive. I didn't say you get to know if their packing heat
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