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Nicotine Extraction!
    #2820381 - 06/23/04 11:55 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Im interested in extracting nicotine from tobacco and possibly makeing a "rock" like substance for smokeing, or at least remove the tar and crap and just get to the good stuff.

Any1 have knowlege?


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Re: Nicotine Extraction! [Re: Fungi_x]
    #2820436 - 06/23/04 12:16 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

i would say using alcohol or acetone to extract it with. don't extract too much or concentrate it too much because nicotine can be lethal.


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Re: Nicotine Extraction! [Re: Fungi_x]
    #2820462 - 06/23/04 12:20 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

> Im interested in extracting nicotine from tobacco and possibly makeing a "rock" like substance for smokeing,

The extraction is very easy...
Killing yourself with the extract is also very easy...

Nicotine is highly toxic... it is used as an organic insecticide... be very careful with any extraction.


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Re: Nicotine Extraction! [Re: Fungi_x]
    #2820495 - 06/23/04 12:28 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

The anarchist cookbook, as much of a piece of shit that thing is, mentions using extracted chewing tobacco as a poison. They used boiling water, and it probably never fully solidifies.


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Re: Nicotine Extraction! [Re: Fungi_x]
    #2820577 - 06/23/04 12:56 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Killing yourself with the extract is also very easy...

Be careful!


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Re: Nicotine Extraction! [Re: Fungi_x]
    #2820695 - 06/23/04 01:43 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Seems like everyone else also knew that nicotine is a killer. In any concentrated form it is a pure poison. A very easy way to kill ones self.


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Re: Nicotine Extraction! [Re: Fungi_x]
    #2820699 - 06/23/04 01:44 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

lol, I'm a very careful person. I will NOT be killing myself anytime soon with nicotine. I understand it can be deadly.

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i would say using alcohol or acetone to extract it with




Once I had a clear solution any ideas how I could make some rocks? Say I extract the stuff then mix some baking soda in and let it slowly boil down. Am i on the rite path?

P.S, I'm no chemist :smile:


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Re: Nicotine Extraction! [Re: Fungi_x]
    #2820776 - 06/23/04 02:02 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I would say that once it is in it's pure form the way you want it it would be almost impossible to seperate a safe dosage from a deadly one....


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Re: Nicotine Extraction! [Re: Fungi_x]
    #2821408 - 06/23/04 04:37 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

use water for the extraction.

you have to figure out a way to where you're only smoking about 1mg-2mg at a time.


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Re: Nicotine Extraction! [Re: Hooty]
    #2821679 - 06/23/04 06:14 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

And to add to that, do you own a mg scale?


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Re: Nicotine Extraction! [Re: HarveyWalbanger]
    #2821723 - 06/23/04 06:38 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

of course he doesn't
- he's no chemist!


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Re: Nicotine Extraction! [Re: Fungi_x]
    #2821999 - 06/23/04 08:33 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Maybe making some 5x or 10x tobacco would be a safer idea.


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Re: Nicotine Extraction! [Re: Fungi_x]
    #2822145 - 06/23/04 09:32 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

milligram scale?


Just use a vaporizer if you don't want the tar.


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Re: Nicotine Extraction! [Re: Fungi_x]
    #2823960 - 06/24/04 02:03 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

> Once I had a clear solution any ideas how I could make some rocks?

The pure nicotine I have worked with was liquid at room temperature... it melts around -80C.

The LD50 for nicotine can be as low as 0.5mg per kg in mice though 50mg/kg oral for rats is the more commonly quoted figure. It can also be absorbed through the skin. Again, be very careful with this highly toxic poison.

> i would say using alcohol or acetone to extract it with

I would say that wont work. Use water to extract.

From: Morgan, D.P. 1982. Recognition and management of pesticide poisonings, 3rd ed. U.S. Environmental Protection Agency, Washington, DC. 120 pp:

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Nicotine preparations, especially those using the free alkaloid, are well absorbed across the gut wall, lung, and skin. Poisoning symptoms from excessive doses appear promptly. They are due to transient stimulation, then prolonged depression, of the central nervous system, autonomic ganglia, and motor end-plates of skeletal muscle. Central nervous system injury is manifest as headache, dizziness, incoordination, tremors, then clonic convulsions leading to tonic-extensor convulsions which are often fatal. In some instances, convulsive activity is minimal and death by respiratory arrest occurs within a few minutes. Effects on autonomic ganglia give rise to sweating, salivation, nausea, abdominal pain, diarrhea, and hypertension. The heart is usually slow, and often rrhythmic. Block of skeletal muscle motor end-plates causes profound weakness, then paralysis. Death may occur from respiratory depression or from shock. Nicotine can be measured in blood and urine to confirm poisoning.




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