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Re: At what point should we consider nationalizing vital industries? [Re: Bigbadwooof]
    #28217228 - 03/06/23 11:10 AM (10 months, 17 days ago)

my take away from that video is biden said it wont happen. asked how? he said it just wont. pivot to german chancellor and he says our response is united.

clear as day to me that he just said biden wants it off and germany will pull the plug. why on earth would they blow it up if both parities were going to turn it off and not use it.

now russia has this massive piece of unused infrastructure right up on nato. blowing it up assures the west cant use it against russia one day or as some dumb ass war prize of sorts/economic blackmail/what the fuckever.

it almost can make sense for russia to blow it up. it makes zero sense for the west/us. not that the west isnt capable. but if they did? putin hasnt and cant do shit about it.



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Re: At what point should we consider nationalizing vital industries? [Re: Kryptos]
    #28217368 - 03/06/23 01:01 PM (10 months, 17 days ago)

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Considering the project was stopped indefinitely when the invasion began, I think it's safe to apply Occam's razor and say that when Biden said he'd shut down the pipelines, he meant...shutting off the pipelines. Which is what happened, long before any explosions.




Occam's razor LOL!!! I suppose you're the mind reader who knows what Biden "meant" lol! I'll go with what he SAID. Occam's razor, the simplest explanation is probably the right one... Biden said he would do it, and he did it. Simple. You're the one doing mental gymnastics to fit your narrative, NOT ME!

Goddamn CNN Echo chamber.


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Re: At what point should we consider nationalizing vital industries? [Re: Bigbadwooof]
    #28217374 - 03/06/23 01:05 PM (10 months, 17 days ago)

The pipeline was shut down long before the explosion.  Why bother blowing it up if phone call can get it shut down?


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Re: At what point should we consider nationalizing vital industries? [Re: mushboy]
    #28217376 - 03/06/23 01:05 PM (10 months, 17 days ago)

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my take away from that video is biden said it wont happen. asked how? he said it just wont. pivot to german chancellor and he says our response is united.

clear as day to me that he just said biden wants it off and germany will pull the plug. why on earth would they blow it up if both parities were going to turn it off and not use it.




That's not what Biden said at all, to begin with..

Anyway, let me ask you a simple question... Why would they BUILD it, if they didn't intend to USE it!?!

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now russia has this massive piece of unused infrastructure right up on nato. blowing it up assures the west cant use it against russia one day or as some dumb ass war prize of sorts/economic blackmail/what the fuckever.

it almost can make sense for russia to blow it up. it makes zero sense for the west/us. not that the west isnt capable. but if they did? putin hasnt and cant do shit about it.





It's utterly preposterous.


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Re: At what point should we consider nationalizing vital industries? [Re: Enlil]
    #28217378 - 03/06/23 01:07 PM (10 months, 17 days ago)

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The pipeline was shut down long before the explosion.  Why bother blowing it up if phone call can get it shut down?




I mean... yeah.. it was stupid. That doesn't mean it didn't happen, or that our president didn't say he would end the pipeline, if Russia invaded Ukraine.


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Re: At what point should we consider nationalizing vital industries? [Re: Bigbadwooof]
    #28217379 - 03/06/23 01:07 PM (10 months, 17 days ago)

he shut it down with sanctions and such before it blew up. its not that complicated of a situation.

you seem to align yourself with the narration that anything you hear on any msm is a lie.

the irony is in that case? the mainstream media are controlling your thoughts. just in a opposite kinda way.


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Re: At what point should we consider nationalizing vital industries? [Re: mushboy]
    #28217385 - 03/06/23 01:10 PM (10 months, 17 days ago)

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he shut it down with sanctions and such before it blew up. its not that complicated of a situation.

you seem to align yourself with the narration that anything you hear on any msm is a lie.

the irony is in that case? the mainstream media are controlling your thoughts. just in a opposite kinda way.




I fundamentally don't trust the media, you're right. They are wrong about so many things it boggles the mind. When I watched Bernie's campaign, I was shocked at the shit the media pulled.

In this situation, I see no reason to doubt the words of our senile president. He said he would do it, and he did. It's pretty straight forward.


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Re: At what point should we consider nationalizing vital industries? [Re: Bigbadwooof]
    #28217395 - 03/06/23 01:13 PM (10 months, 17 days ago)

When did Biden say he would blow up the pipeline?


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Re: At what point should we consider nationalizing vital industries? [Re: Kryptos]
    #28217453 - 03/06/23 02:05 PM (10 months, 17 days ago)

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When did Biden say he would blow up the pipeline?




I just posted the fucking video dude.


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Re: At what point should we consider nationalizing vital industries? [Re: Bigbadwooof]
    #28217459 - 03/06/23 02:13 PM (10 months, 17 days ago)

and the video disproves your point.

find me the words said by biden:

'i blew it up'

you cant and you wont.

ending isnt blowing up.

dont be scarred like biden scared putin into sabotaging his own pipeline

man up bruh.


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Re: At what point should we consider nationalizing vital industries? [Re: mushboy]
    #28217462 - 03/06/23 02:17 PM (10 months, 17 days ago)

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and the video disproves your point.

find me the words said by biden:

'i blew it up'

you cant and you wont.

ending isnt blowing up.

dont be scarred like biden scared putin into sabotaging his own pipeline

man up bruh.




He said he would END it, and he fucking DID. It's not fucking rocket surgery!


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Re: At what point should we consider nationalizing vital industries? [Re: Bigbadwooof]
    #28217468 - 03/06/23 02:19 PM (10 months, 17 days ago)

ended with cooperation from germany and sanctions. germany wasnt going to certify the fucking thing. its called diplomacy and politics. being wielded with great aplomb by a fucking senior citizen people like to pretend is senile.


wrong thread too:derfase:


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Re: At what point should we consider nationalizing vital industries? [Re: Bigbadwooof]
    #28217486 - 03/06/23 02:36 PM (10 months, 17 days ago)

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When did Biden say he would blow up the pipeline?




I just posted the fucking video dude.




A video in which "blow up", or any synonyms of explosions, are notably absent.

A video in which Biden claims an end to the pipeline...on which construction was stopped, or one might say "ended" long before anything exploded.


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Re: At what point should we consider nationalizing vital industries? [Re: Kryptos]
    #28217495 - 03/06/23 02:42 PM (10 months, 17 days ago)

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When did Biden say he would blow up the pipeline?




I just posted the fucking video dude.




A video in which "blow up", or any synonyms of explosions, are notably absent.

A video in which Biden claims an end to the pipeline...on which construction was stopped, or one might say "ended" long before anything exploded.




Yall wanna play the semantics game, let's play. Watch the video... What he said was:

"There will no longer be a Nordstream II. We will bring an end to it."

He's not saying sanctions, and when pressed about he, he basically says, "We have our ways".. If it were through sanctions, he would have said that, clearly.

You guys are just glaringly, utterly wrong about this.


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Re: At what point should we consider nationalizing vital industries? [Re: Bigbadwooof]
    #28217498 - 03/06/23 02:44 PM (10 months, 17 days ago)

how can you be so sure?

im not sure the US wasnt involved i just highly highly highly doubt it. your certainty is blinding you.


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Re: At what point should we consider nationalizing vital industries? [Re: Bigbadwooof]
    #28217515 - 03/06/23 02:55 PM (10 months, 17 days ago)

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When did Biden say he would blow up the pipeline?




I just posted the fucking video dude.




A video in which "blow up", or any synonyms of explosions, are notably absent.

A video in which Biden claims an end to the pipeline...on which construction was stopped, or one might say "ended" long before anything exploded.




Yall wanna play the semantics game, let's play. Watch the video... What he said was:

"There will no longer be a Nordstream II. We will bring an end to it."

He's not saying sanctions, and when pressed about he, he basically says, "We have our ways".. If it were through sanctions, he would have said that, clearly.

You guys are just glaringly, utterly wrong about this.




Okay, let's play this semantics game.

He's not saying explosions, and when pressed on it, he basically says "we have our ways..." If it was through bombing the pipeline, he would have said that. Clearly.

You're just glaringly, utterly wrong about this.


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Re: At what point should we consider nationalizing vital industries? [Re: Kryptos]
    #28217526 - 03/06/23 02:59 PM (10 months, 17 days ago)

Whoever did it was efficient, I have yet to find a source that identifies the explosive by name. Other theories are that it was caused by the Norwegian Navy with depth charges, during training....others say the CIA and them did collaborate.

Who knows, it obviously didn't start a war, war.


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Re: At what point should we consider nationalizing vital industries? [Re: SirTripAlot]
    #28217733 - 03/06/23 05:21 PM (10 months, 17 days ago)

To me the US or NATO blowing the pipeline seems insanely brash with very little payoff if anything  russia blowing the thing and pointing fingers seems way more plausible especially with their recent track record of shit they've pulled. Well probably never know for sure with each side blaming eachother but this has already been discussed in the Ukrainian thread several times:shrug:


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Re: At what point should we consider nationalizing vital industries? [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL]
    #28217765 - 03/06/23 05:50 PM (10 months, 17 days ago)

According to Seymore Hersh the Norwegians did it.
I can't believe there isn't more outrage they'd do something like that. :crankey:


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Re: At what point should we consider nationalizing vital industries? [Re: mycosis]
    #28217776 - 03/06/23 06:00 PM (10 months, 17 days ago)

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According to Seymore Hersh the Norwegians did it.
I can't believe there isn't more outrage they'd do something like that. :crankey:




Seymore Hersh didn't say that at all.


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