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Abombs
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Moral decision
#28182268 - 02/11/23 12:32 PM (11 months, 10 days ago) |
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Have a moral decision to make. Met a girl a couple months back. Had a the same interests in me we laugh at each other's bulshit etc.
Though recently she has asked how I feel about blow. And banging some of her girlfriends.
Sounds fantastic coke fueled nights of multi partner sex.
Probably hit up some sex clubs and generally push the limit for a while.
Were both working class making good money.
The problem is I've never done cocaine. And I'm an addict not currently in a program. And kinda surviving because I'm between substances.
Not gonna lie. I'm probably gonna throw the dice on sex and drugs for a while 😵💫
Or maybe we will each do our first dmt trip and everything will change. Dunno.
I would love to hear peoples opinions on this or experiences.
I'm certainly trying to experience as much as I can in this life.
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Re: Moral decision [Re: Abombs] 4
#28182292 - 02/11/23 12:49 PM (11 months, 10 days ago) |
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Women like this can and will fuck your life up worse than any drug.
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Re: Moral decision [Re: Abombs] 1
#28182362 - 02/11/23 01:17 PM (11 months, 10 days ago) |
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Definitely try to convince her to do psychedelics with you. That would be chill af.
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Re: Moral decision [Re: Abombs]
#28182404 - 02/11/23 01:40 PM (11 months, 10 days ago) |
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I know I would totally go for it! 
If you have good self-control, you can avoid doing cocaine daily and make it a "sex party only" sort of situation. Just make sure to self-monitor yourself and if your cocaine use becomes an issue that affects your day-to-day life, I would quit immediately.
I once had a non-sexual Coca experience at a outdoor festival with a woman whom i had sex with the following morning. It was awesome! We talking to each other about all sorts of stuff. One of the best parts of cocaine is it makes you talkative and euphoric at the same time. Perfect for dates to be honest. Just tread carefully as cocaine can be quite addicting due to its positive yet short-lasting effects.
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Re: Moral decision [Re: Abombs] 1
#28182423 - 02/11/23 01:52 PM (11 months, 10 days ago) |
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I'd suggest asking yourself what your expectations are for a relationship and how you feel about her in particular. Whether or not it's worth ruining and whether you saying no might be a deal breaker for her. Those are complicated questions that you have to approach in a way that makes sense to you. You also can't pretend that this doesn't leave the door open for another guy in the bedroom too.
As far as cocaine goes though it's okay. I hate coke personally but I was never a stimulant person. If you like stimulants then you'll like cocaine. If it were me I'd stay away from street powders that have been seen with fent, but it can be euphoric and there's a certain exciting element all over nothing. Can be expensive. Acid sex is good usually.
Cocaine is entirely moreish and if you're a substance abuser you're going to end up smoking crack and ruining yourself like a dumbass. The moreish-ness of cocaine almost IS the cocaine experience in the same way a beer is to an alcoholic or a cigarette is to a smoker. When you do cocaine, you do cocaine. It's not an addict's friend.
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First thought I had is the following scenario:
You do it once and it's fucking awesome, like the best shit ever. Then you want to do it again, so you do. Inevitably this becomes a pattern of use, and you come to a point where you say "man I really shouldn't do this anymore", but then she invites you and you know you shouldn't but it's awesome... and if you're the jealous type; well she has no self control so who is going to supply the penis to this scenario? Suddenly you're emotionally invested, chemically conditioned, and struggling with the fact that you will probably not find something similar to this situation ever again and you're going to die soon so why not? I mean, everything that feels good hurts a little right? It's just too easy.
I would avoid it. The dopamine burn of doing something that is hard will last longer than the immediate rush of what you are being offered surely is. I don't think this is a moral question, more so a personal values question; what are you willing to have, what are you willing to lose, and what are you willing to do or not do to achieve the answer to the last two questions?
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She has done a number of low dose mushroom trips. But nothimg deep. And she was actually the one that brought up wanting to try dmt.
We are both almost 40 and at such similar places in life.
When it was just pot and dmt and mushrooms it was cool. I had thought we had a shot together.
Now there is talk of cocaine and non monogamy. So I'm more of the attitude our goal is no pressure fun.
And I have no problem having another dude involved. She would have all the feels being worked over by two guys.
I'm hoping I can keep it under control. I've never really had a drug of choice. Sometimes it was food then pot then alcohol then exercise then steroids then lvl 5 trip experiences.
I am most certainly the type to fiend.
Rofsplam that is my exact fear. I had a mushroom trip about this exact scenario I played a very sad reel. Of going from awesome first few experiences to an addicted junky.
Does it jive with my personal beliefs and ethics kinda. But I am chaotic neutral. So let's fire this shit up!
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This is the mother of all bad ideas. You'll end up dead/in prison/with several bullshit rape charges/with an utterly destroyed reputation/rumors of being a pimp or/and child molester. People like this are almost always terrible, and I mean terrible news and even if she doesn't go full BPD on you (which she will) it'll lead you in-fucking-credibly dark places.
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Roflspammer said: First thought I had is the following scenario:
I would avoid it. The dopamine burn of doing something that is hard will last longer than the immediate rush of what you are being offered surely is. I don't think this is a moral question, more so a personal values question; what are you willing to have, what are you willing to lose, and what are you willing to do or not do to achieve the answer to the last two questions?
My thoughts exactly.
Additionally: "How comfortable are you with sucking a dealer's cock for coke?" Not even because you can't afford it but because it'll end up coming up and someone will suggest it'll be fun and you'll be so swept up in the situation you'll agree.
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Abombs
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Lol glad I didn't suck a dealers dick. Not gonna have to worry about this chick she gone! I had a trip the other day not a big one. About a gram in tea.
But it was enough to super charge my imagination.
At first I was imagining all the fun stuff. The drug fueled sex and such.
Then reality set in. And I imagined in great detail my life falling apart slowly from the addictions.
After a couple hours I was exhausted.
And just Kept thinking about it. (that's the thing with being you. Your always yourself 🥴)
The next day I had no desire to talk to her.
So after just not messaging her for a few day she got the idea and wanted to split.
So yay And I'm incredibly relieved
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Re: Moral decision [Re: Abombs] 1
#28197234 - 02/21/23 09:58 AM (11 months, 8 hours ago) |
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What the shit... Serendipity.
Also, hella glad you did that. This sort of thing can be fun for a bit but there's just too many moving parts an way too many substance and and and blah blah blah.
Plus you're not the right age. Drugged up polycule sex ain't the type of thing you want to get started on this late in life.
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Abombs
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I'll stick to psyches and weed! 🍄 That was my plan before. Pace myself for a lifetime of travels.
The only downside is I left my vibrator there. She says she will mail it to me. But I have my doubts
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LogicaL Chaos said: I know I would totally go for it! 
If you have good self-control, you can avoid doing cocaine daily and make it a "sex party only" sort of situation. Just make sure to self-monitor yourself and if your cocaine use becomes an issue that affects your day-to-day life, I would quit immediately.
I once had a non-sexual Coca experience at a outdoor festival with a woman whom i had sex with the following morning. It was awesome! We talking to each other about all sorts of stuff. One of the best parts of cocaine is it makes you talkative and euphoric at the same time. Perfect for dates to be honest. Just tread carefully as cocaine can be quite addicting due to its positive yet short-lasting effects.
The person said they do not have good self control. I would participate in the sex side. But not risk losing everything over the coke, if I know I am prone to addiction. I mean its coke.... super addictive, short highs.. you can do different things. Fucking is fun LOL
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Roflspammer said: First thought I had is the following scenario:
You do it once and it's fucking awesome, like the best shit ever. Then you want to do it again, so you do. Inevitably this becomes a pattern of use, and you come to a point where you say "man I really shouldn't do this anymore", but then she invites you and you know you shouldn't but it's awesome... and if you're the jealous type; well she has no self control so who is going to supply the penis to this scenario? Suddenly you're emotionally invested, chemically conditioned, and struggling with the fact that you will probably not find something similar to this situation ever again and you're going to die soon so why not? I mean, everything that feels good hurts a little right? It's just too easy.
I would avoid it. The dopamine burn of doing something that is hard will last longer than the immediate rush of what you are being offered surely is. I don't think this is a moral question, more so a personal values question; what are you willing to have, what are you willing to lose, and what are you willing to do or not do to achieve the answer to the last two questions?
Great answer It's not that great.. but you'll destroy your life chasing that high Sex on it is eh. DO shrooms and have sex
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But what if the sex was on the condition of doing coke beforehand? Would u go for it? Or would u pass on it?
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Like the person said lets have sex but only if you do coke?
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LogicaL Chaos said: But what if the sex was on the condition of doing coke beforehand? Would u go for it? Or would u pass on it?
I mean... I haven't had sex in awhile. Good sex.. beautiful fucking amazing sex? I guess I would partake. But.... I don't need coke for good sex and it actually doesn't make it better And I am positive I would probably think what am I 16? Being peer pressured ? LOL
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Lol no I wouldn't have needed any pressure to do coke. I'm sure if some some I knew was like hey wanna have a bump in sure if say ya let's do this.
I don't need drugs to enjoy sex providing all those sensations(and receiving) and seing there enjoyment is Better than any high.
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Re: Moral decision [Re: Abombs]
#28199791 - 02/22/23 07:52 PM (10 months, 29 days ago) |
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Same With the exception of sex on shrooms... I prefer sober sex
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