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Re: Will facts and testimony finally change minds on the right? (rhetorical question) [Re: Ice9]
#28194398 - 02/19/23 11:37 AM (11 months, 1 day ago) |
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I don’t think so, I think it would be in their interest to get any 3rd party voter out of the mix, anybody in their party or their base would rather the 1v1. The people voting for them fully trust the elections until they lose. The people who actually don’t trust the elections are the ones who have lost everytime for decades.
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Re: Will facts and testimony finally change minds on the right? (rhetorical question) [Re: NotSheekle]
#28194419 - 02/19/23 11:55 AM (11 months, 1 day ago) |
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Do you think you could ever get elected to a local office? Or are those elections decided by a conspiracy too?
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Re: Will facts and testimony finally change minds on the right? (rhetorical question) [Re: Lynnch]
#28194425 - 02/19/23 12:00 PM (11 months, 1 day ago) |
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It depends on the laws considering criminal history, however, I think in many cases the average Joe could partake in duties as public officials but in most cases there are obvious conspiracies controlling local governments. In my city money talks, if you pass certain types of bills you can become famous and have enormous checks cut for you. My city is notoriously corrupt when it comes to public officials and corporate manipulation.
I do think in smaller towns it’s much less of an issue.
Edit for clarity: when I use the word conspiracy I am simply referring to 2 parties working on a common goal together in secrecy
No hocus pocus or lizard people
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Re: Will facts and testimony finally change minds on the right? (rhetorical question) [Re: NotSheekle]
#28194840 - 02/19/23 04:48 PM (11 months, 1 day ago) |
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NotSheekle said:
Edit for clarity: when I use the word conspiracy I am simply referring to 2 parties working on a common goal together in secrecy
No hocus pocus or lizard people
That "definition" seems way too broad and unspecific about the important bits.
Dude...by your definition I may as well be part of the Illuminaughty.
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Edited by The Blind Ass (02/19/23 04:57 PM)
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Re: Will facts and testimony finally change minds on the right? (rhetorical question) [Re: The Blind Ass]
#28194851 - 02/19/23 04:55 PM (11 months, 1 day ago) |
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I literally said “no hocus pocus or lizard people”
Conspiracy doesn’t imply “spooky unexplainable thing”, it implies that people work together in secrecy to make things happen, Mayors often get into power with the support of private organizations and companies who donate to their campaign. They do not share their communications, they make deals in private and exchange money for influence over the city. This is common knowledge and is known as conspiracy.
There is nothing weird, unusual or out of place about most conspiracies...
You are referring to the trigger phrase “conspiracy theories” which is a broad blanket term to use when describing any idea that revolves around conspiracy.
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Re: Will facts and testimony finally change minds on the right? (rhetorical question) [Re: NotSheekle]
#28194854 - 02/19/23 04:55 PM (11 months, 1 day ago) |
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NotSheekle said: when I use the word conspiracy I am simply referring to 2 parties working on a common goal together in secrecy
Next time I want a discreet tryst with my GF, I am going to ask if she wants to engage in a conspiracy with me.
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Re: Will facts and testimony finally change minds on the right? (rhetorical question) [Re: Ice9]
#28194859 - 02/19/23 04:58 PM (11 months, 1 day ago) |
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Re: Will facts and testimony finally change minds on the right? (rhetorical question) [Re: Ice9]
#28194868 - 02/19/23 05:05 PM (11 months, 1 day ago) |
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The act of asking and agreeing to have sex would be the conspiring.
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Re: Will facts and testimony finally change minds on the right? (rhetorical question) [Re: NotSheekle]
#28194876 - 02/19/23 05:14 PM (11 months, 1 day ago) |
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Depends on what kind of sex they engage in and where they do it at wrt whatever the law has to say about it.
In my area you can be brought up on charges for doing the dirty out in public...but it seems unlikely that they'd also be brought up on conspiracy charges for it too. Dig?
Hell, I could be wrong.
Ask Enlilio.
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Re: Will facts and testimony finally change minds on the right? (rhetorical question) [Re: NotSheekle]
#28195122 - 02/19/23 07:34 PM (11 months, 1 day ago) |
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Okay, but the existence of money and power structures is not the same thing as the elections being rigged. Candidates with institutional backing and huge war chests fail at the polls all the time.
It's true that we have two neoliberal parties with a shared interest in maintaining our capitalist system. But that doesn't mean individual actors within that system don't have other conflicting interests and goals.
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Re: Will facts and testimony finally change minds on the right? (rhetorical question) [Re: Lynnch]
#28195264 - 02/19/23 08:45 PM (11 months, 1 day ago) |
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Im not one of those who believes that politics is a meer base struggle for place and plunder. Where the profoundest vascality and deepest purse always wins. For most it is so to have lived to make someone better for you to having lived.
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Re: Will facts and testimony finally change minds on the right? (rhetorical question) [Re: NotSheekle]
#28195337 - 02/19/23 09:40 PM (11 months, 23 hours ago) |
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NotSheekle said: Exactly...
I believe the two parties are identical in the sense of their end focus is money and power, however, I think they operate differently towards that goal. Red uses Constitutionalism to manipulate their base and blue uses Socialism to manipulate their base.
Socialism? Name one policy goal that is remotely socialist
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Re: Will facts and testimony finally change minds on the right? (rhetorical question) [Re: koods] 1
#28195346 - 02/19/23 09:50 PM (11 months, 23 hours ago) |
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I do think in smaller towns it’s much less of an issue.
Smaller towns are the most corrupt. Often time, the budgets of small towns depend on the police generating income by extracting fines for anything they can. There’s very little oversight of small town governments.
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Re: Will facts and testimony finally change minds on the right? (rhetorical question) [Re: NotSheekle]
#28195353 - 02/19/23 09:59 PM (11 months, 23 hours ago) |
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NotSheekle said: I literally said “no hocus pocus or lizard people”
Conspiracy doesn’t imply “spooky unexplainable thing”, it implies that people work together in secrecy to make things happen, Mayors often get into power with the support of private organizations and companies who donate to their campaign. They do not share their communications, they make deals in private and exchange money for influence over the city. This is common knowledge and is known as conspiracy.
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It is illegal for corporations to donate to political campaigns in the United States
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Re: Will facts and testimony finally change minds on the right? (rhetorical question) [Re: koods]
#28195369 - 02/19/23 10:31 PM (11 months, 22 hours ago) |
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And?
It's also illegal to grow cubes in most states. Yet here we are.
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Re: Will facts and testimony finally change minds on the right? (rhetorical question) [Re: chopstick]
#28195669 - 02/20/23 07:05 AM (11 months, 14 hours ago) |
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chopstick said:
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that there is a spiritual war being waged for control over the human race, and finally that if you really wanted to be on the right side of this war you would have to let go of most of your current beliefs & biases.
Could PLEASE tell us in all your jizzdom exactly what "spiritual war" is going on to "control the human race" and exactly which side is "the right side" and just exactly which/what "current beliefs and biases that need to be let go" in order to be ok/be on the "winning" side? I would adore your detailed explanation.
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Re: Will facts and testimony finally change minds on the right? (rhetorical question) [Re: koods]
#28195671 - 02/20/23 07:07 AM (11 months, 14 hours ago) |
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I do think in smaller towns it’s much less of an issue.
Smaller towns are the most corrupt. Often time, the budgets of small towns depend on the police generating income by extracting fines for anything they can. There’s very little oversight of small town governments.
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Re: Will facts and testimony finally change minds on the right? (rhetorical question) [Re: tyrannicalrex] 1
#28195852 - 02/20/23 10:10 AM (11 months, 11 hours ago) |
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tyrannicalrex said:
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chopstick said:
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that there is a spiritual war being waged for control over the human race, and finally that if you really wanted to be on the right side of this war you would have to let go of most of your current beliefs & biases.
Could PLEASE tell us in all your jizzdom exactly what "spiritual war" is going on to "control the human race" and exactly which side is "the right side" and just exactly which/what "current beliefs and biases "need to be let go" in order to be ok/be on the "winning" side? I would adore your detailed explanation.
We would all love that. Unfortunately it's just some stupid nebulous bullshit he posts to make himself seem like he knows something we don't.
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Re: Will facts and testimony finally change minds on the right? (rhetorical question) [Re: tyrannicalrex] 1
#28200770 - 02/23/23 02:02 PM (10 months, 28 days ago) |
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tyrannicalrex said:
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chopstick said:
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that there is a spiritual war being waged for control over the human race, and finally that if you really wanted to be on the right side of this war you would have to let go of most of your current beliefs & biases.
Could PLEASE tell us in all your jizzdom exactly what "spiritual war" is going on to "control the human race" and exactly which side is "the right side" and just exactly which/what "current beliefs and biases that need to be let go" in order to be ok/be on the "winning" side? I would adore your detailed explanation.
I posted a pretty long answer to your question here.
TLDR: The Neocons took over America and now they are dragging the entire planet down into hell over their world domination plans.
Yes, it is a spiritual battle just as much as it is a physical one. And if you were one of the many, many victims of the empire, if you lived in Syria or East Ukraine or Libya or Iraq or any other country they have destroyed you would understand this very, very well. There would be no doubts in your mind.
Sadly It's just far too easy for Westerners to just ignore everything that happens on the planet, live in a constant state of total ignorance and not care about anything or even attempt to be aware of anything major that is happening. It is a sinkhole of indifference from which there is no escape. You're probably not even aware, for example, that the United States is closer to war with Russia today than we were during the Cuban Missile Crisis. And this is due *entirely* to the influence of the Neocons over American foreign policy and the American mass media.
By the "right side" I don't mean any pre-defined political faction but rather to be in the group of folks who understand the true nature of what is taking place right now, whom have compassion in their hearts and want the necessary changes to come that are needed to heal the planet. All of the major events taking place at this time are all connected to this power struggle between the Neocons and their various proxies and minions versus the rest of humanity.
Make the effort to read my post, learn a thing or two about the Neocons and how they successfully wield large amounts of influence over the various levers of power within our country, and come to understand why this is a bad thing.
If you're not willing to make that effort then at-least admit to yourself that you will never have a full understanding of the forces that are at work influencing events in our present time, and perhaps you shouldn't judge those whom do make the effort just because you'd rather not have to deal with reality.
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Re: Will facts and testimony finally change minds on the right? (rhetorical question) [Re: chopstick] 4
#28200802 - 02/23/23 02:20 PM (10 months, 28 days ago) |
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Note this is the political forum, not the conspiracy theory forum. Save your neocon BS for that place.
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