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InvisibleThomas Envisio
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Can We Change The View Count?
    #28189838 - 02/16/23 07:25 AM (11 months, 5 days ago)

Hi There. Can we change the Views count so it does not include the original person/bot who posted the content?

Also, what non-CAPTCHA vetting process could be added to reduce bots? I can't quite be certain, but I feel like some of the contributors may be bots. Do you agree?


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Re: Can We Change The View Count? [Re: Thomas Envisio]
    #28192221 - 02/17/23 08:12 PM (11 months, 3 days ago)

Threads already don't count the initial view by the original poster, but if they re-visit in the future then those views are counted. Are you suggesting that views by the original poster should never be counted no matter how many times they view their thread? I'd like to hear what other members think about that.

Good idea about excluding bots from the view count, though. We already flag bots which announce themselves in their user agent (as seen in the "Bots" section of the Who's Online page) so it was an easy fix to not count those views. As for other automated traffic, we do employ various forms of abuse protection during registration (like blacklist checks), and during page view (like rate limiting) to try and exclude malicious automated traffic without affecting legitimate users or friendly bots. I'm always open to suggestions though.


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Re: Can We Change The View Count? [Re: Ythan]
    #28192404 - 02/17/23 11:04 PM (11 months, 3 days ago)

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Are you suggesting that views by the original poster should never be counted no matter how many times they view their thread?




Yes. I think this is appropriate now.


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Re: Can We Change The View Count? [Re: Thomas Envisio]
    #28192517 - 02/18/23 03:54 AM (11 months, 3 days ago)

What is it that makes you care about the view count, Thomas Envisio, are threads listed in order of how many views they've had in some way?

I've definitely been guilty of checking in on my threads to double check some shit etc but I also never look at the view count of any thread I visit.

The bots thing is a different story admittedly but again- I don't really care if a spam thread made by a bot had a falsely inflated number of views.

"Judge a thread not by the number of his views but by the content of his uhhhh.... thread."

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Re: Can We Change The View Count? [Re: Lithop]
    #28192715 - 02/18/23 08:56 AM (11 months, 3 days ago)

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What is it that makes you care about the view count, Thomas Envisio. Are threads listed in order of how many views they've had in some way?




It would be nice to see the Views reflect only additional members, rather than bots and the original poster. For example, in the News forum new posts are also added to Twitter apparently. Twitter is known for extremely widespread bots and fake duplicate accounts. I would prefer eliminating views that are not authentic on some level, while still respecting everyone's privacy and need for distance.

To answer the second part of your questions, I think that is an option, but not the default setting. You'd have to ask an admin about that aspect.


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Re: Can We Change The View Count? [Re: Thomas Envisio]
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Re: Can We Change The View Count? [Re: Thomas Envisio]
    #28192756 - 02/18/23 09:19 AM (11 months, 3 days ago)



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Re: Can We Change The View Count? [Re: Thomas Envisio]
    #28192834 - 02/18/23 10:36 AM (11 months, 3 days ago)

What is it that makes you care about the article, Thomas Envisio, are articles listed in order of how many views they've had in some way?

I've definitely been guilty of reading my articles to dou....

:wink:

Thanks for clearing it up, man:thumbup:
I haven't/ don't go on twitter etc so can't really talk on that.
Not surprised by the article tbh but I just don't feel anything at all the whole bot/Ai/impending singularity situation.:shrug:

Good luck with the view count stuff!


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    #28196966 - 02/21/23 04:55 AM (11 months, 10 hours ago)

These are different times, I vote only show new views.  Back in the day those numbers felt like a trophy :lol: but now it feels more accurate and honest to only count new hits, not repeated hits (from anyone).


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