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Ben Phartin

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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: Moopers]
#28185271 - 02/13/23 10:31 AM (1 year, 2 days ago) |
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On grain, nat and cube myc look the same. Once the jar is colonized 100%, nat myc might form big (BIG) tomentose clouds at the top, especially if left to consolidate. It's not always a thing, and some cubes will do that, too.
Safest bet is to spawn each jar to a shoebox and see what you get.
Unfortunately I used pints this go around because the wife has all the quarts in use. I gather they like a 1:1 or 1:1.5 spawn ratio, would 1:3 cause them to overlay like nuts if they display that trait?
How do these do in bags? I've always preferred fruiting cubes in them compared to boxes or tubs.
Edited by Ben Phartin (02/13/23 10:33 AM)
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Rumblestrip

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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: Seeker604] 3
#28185313 - 02/13/23 11:03 AM (1 year, 2 days ago) |
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Seeker604 said:
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MojaveMyc said: I remember AKA had overlay issues that were remedied by going back to spore and trying a different culture. Works for me any time I run into a dead end.
Thank you for your pictures and additional information on how they were able to address the overlay issue.
Peace & Light,
Seeker604
I don't believe that overlay is an issue with this species as a whole. The problem is that very few genetic lines have left South Africa and unfortunately the first variety/ genetic line to come to America IS very prone to overlay. When this species was first distributed in the U.S. all the prints that circulated came from the same genetic line that did overlay very badly. It took about a year more or less for other genetics to cross the pond. The newer genetics don't have this problem and grow pretty much like regular cubes. Also if you look at posts by members who live in South Africa their lines don't have this issue.
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Telomere
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Frilly gills low spore Nat
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bakedbeings
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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: Telomere]
#28186116 - 02/13/23 07:53 PM (1 year, 2 days ago) |
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Telomere said: Frilly gills low spore Nat

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TheGreatDellion
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First flush on this shoebox. I soaked it for two hours. Hopefully the next flush pushes out some bigger fruits. Super happy with the pin set though. It was around 170g wet.
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MojaveMyc
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Very nice. They're so cute
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semilancreator
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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: MojaveMyc] 2
#28186881 - 02/14/23 09:18 AM (1 year, 1 day ago) |
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My Natalensis always wants to escape agar plates or jars with thick rhizomorph strands... They are strong!
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DERRAYLD
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I mixed some TAT and Natalensis lc a while back and gave them a high speed stir.

Looks like the TAT may have won out in the end, ill wait and see.
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JW123
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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: DERRAYLD]
#28187093 - 02/14/23 12:46 PM (1 year, 1 day ago) |
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FlawdaKraka
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semilancreator said: My Natalensis always wants to escape agar plates or jars with thick rhizomorph strands... They are strong!
Something like this germ plate crawling up the swab to escape?
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bongoman
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What's going on with my Natalensis shoeboxes?

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Fridgedoor
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Rumblestrip said:
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Seeker604 said:
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MojaveMyc said: I remember AKA had overlay issues that were remedied by going back to spore and trying a different culture. Works for me any time I run into a dead end.
Thank you for your pictures and additional information on how they were able to address the overlay issue.
Peace & Light,
Seeker604
I don't believe that overlay is an issue with this species as a whole. The problem is that very few genetic lines have left South Africa and unfortunately the first variety/ genetic line to come to America IS very prone to overlay. When this species was first distributed in the U.S. all the prints that circulated came from the same genetic line that did overlay very badly. It took about a year more or less for other genetics to cross the pond. The newer genetics don't have this problem and grow pretty much like regular cubes. Also if you look at posts by members who live in South Africa their lines don't have this issue.
I am not so sure about that. We have passed around a clone culture over here, which doesn't produce overlay and in turn might create this impression.
I started a new culture for fun (directly from spores of the culture mentioned above) which resulted in a overlay producing culture.
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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: bongoman] 1
#28187768 - 02/14/23 09:03 PM (1 year, 1 day ago) |
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bongoman said: What's going on with my Natalensis shoeboxes?



Looks like you’ve got the same line as I do
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Eugene Gesuale
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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: DERRAYLD]
#28187789 - 02/14/23 09:14 PM (1 year, 1 day ago) |
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DERRAYLD said: I mixed some TAT and Natalensis lc a while back and gave them a high speed stir.

Looks like the TAT may have won out in the end, ill wait and see.
Nat myc is way more aggressive so I got my money on a cross
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dowodenum
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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: Telomere]
#28187948 - 02/14/23 11:24 PM (1 year, 1 day ago) |
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Telomere said: Frilly gills low spore Nat

Beautiful. Makes me want to start with nat. It still drops spores, just not a lot?
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RescueU
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Made up another 3 unmodified shoe boxes at 1:3. The shoe boxes have the same floor dimensions, but are taller. Hopefully they work out OK.
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KeyMaker
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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: RescueU] 7
#28188084 - 02/15/23 04:45 AM (1 year, 22 hours ago) |
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Here we go!
 bout to do a transfer.
shout out to JW123!
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The trooper
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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: KeyMaker] 5
#28189147 - 02/15/23 05:48 PM (1 year, 9 hours ago) |
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Anyone know why the stipes are so thick and the caps are so small? Thanks!
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JW123
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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: KeyMaker]
#28189195 - 02/15/23 06:14 PM (1 year, 9 hours ago) |
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cozmyc
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Quote:
The trooper said:


Anyone know why the stipes are so thick and the caps are so small? Thanks!
Oo.. a boa pheno
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