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Nichrome
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: JW123] 2
#28184674 - 02/12/23 09:18 PM (1 year, 17 days ago) |
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JW123 said: Since no one else is asking I will. What are you doing with PF TEK? Pheno hunting or something else?
I just needed a 123 cookie dough recipe for a person who's just starting out, without having to write it all out myself.
PF tek is great to start out and get a feel for things, especially for somebody with limited time or resources.
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JW123
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Nichrome]
#28184682 - 02/12/23 09:31 PM (1 year, 17 days ago) |
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Makes sense. Keep them away from those other spore to grain maneuvers.
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hazyhorse
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: JW123] 1
#28184778 - 02/12/23 11:52 PM (1 year, 17 days ago) |
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josex uses it to clean up bacterial cultures, pins & fruits really well if you're just looking for clone material/prints & don't wanna spawn a whole tub
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: hazyhorse]
#28184837 - 02/13/23 01:30 AM (1 year, 17 days ago) |
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Yeah, I actually thought that was what he was doing.
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fiddle_head
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Nichrome]
#28184908 - 02/13/23 01:59 AM (1 year, 17 days ago) |
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Nichrome said:
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JW123 said: Since no one else is asking I will. What are you doing with PF TEK? Pheno hunting or something else?
I just needed a 123 cookie dough recipe for a person who's just starting out, without having to write it all out myself.
PF tek is great to start out and get a feel for things, especially for somebody with limited time or resources.
I go back to the pf tek from time to time to remind myself where i came from. it's an opportunity to sit down and be humble for me.
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/28173570
and I absolutely fuck up some pretty basic shit, but I got results. It's a good place to return when you're trying to run faster than you can walk.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: fiddle_head] 1
#28184970 - 02/13/23 04:31 AM (1 year, 17 days ago) |
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pf tek is good for a few things...noobs without a pc, cleaning up bacterial cultures, just for fun...
but if have a pc and you want cakes that produce more fruit, try your hand with Kramer Cakes... I was averaging a lil over half oz per cake when I ran them forever ago... they are a lot less forgiving that brf cakes so DO NOT shoot spores into jars... blenderless LI or a clean LC is best to inoculate them with
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Auron
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Leftfield420]
#28185407 - 02/13/23 12:16 PM (1 year, 16 days ago) |
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My shoeboxes seem to be drying out even with the lid on. I live in Denver, high and dry.
They donβt seal very well, should there be a tight seal?
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BeefSupremeJr
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Auron] 1
#28185415 - 02/13/23 12:25 PM (1 year, 16 days ago) |
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Auron said: My shoeboxes seem to be drying out even with the lid on. I live in Denver, high and dry.
They donβt seal very well, should there be a tight seal?
Id say your coir moisture is inadequate. your ratio of spawn to sub might need bumped too
whats your recipe.
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also, i put a weight on top while i am colonizing.
be wary, those in more humid climates will say "you dont need to do that" but i live in the desert and i totally have to do things that others dont.
my coir mix is 5x brickweight in water +2qts verm.
4:1 spawn ratio then 2qts of casing.
so its a 7qt total spawn. that gives me all the water i need until second flush but i still gotta dunk.
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Auron
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BeefSupremeJr said:
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Auron said: My shoeboxes seem to be drying out even with the lid on. I live in Denver, high and dry.
They donβt seal very well, should there be a tight seal?
Id say your coir moisture is inadequate. your ratio of spawn to sub might need bumped too
whats your recipe.
I did 1:2 shredded pf tek to coir/verm. Field capacity was several drops because the last one was barely any and I wanted more moisture.
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BeefSupremeJr said: also, i put a weight on top while i am colonizing.
be wary, those in more humid climates will say "you dont need to do that" but i live in the desert and i totally have to do things that others dont.
my coir mix is 5x brickweight in water +2qts verm.
4:1 spawn ratio then 2qts of casing.
so its a 7qt total spawn. that gives me all the water i need until second flush but i still gotta dunk.
"YoU doN't NEeD caSInG FoR cuBEz"
No muthafucka, you don't. My tiny bottles sure do at less than 15% RH.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: SirPsycho] 1
#28185671 - 02/13/23 03:03 PM (1 year, 16 days ago) |
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i live in the high desert & a heavily misted top layer at spawn has done me wonders. i wouldnβt say strictly necessary, but itβs made enough of a difference that i personally do it every time now. everyoneβs conditions are gonna be different. more humidity is never gonna hurt cubes as long as you can dial FAE in alongside it
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Smellyhobbit
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Inocuole] 3
#28185673 - 02/13/23 03:05 PM (1 year, 16 days ago) |
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Iβm in Texas and I do a misted top layer too π
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: SirPsycho] 2
#28185674 - 02/13/23 03:06 PM (1 year, 16 days ago) |
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SirPsycho said:
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BeefSupremeJr said: also, i put a weight on top while i am colonizing.
be wary, those in more humid climates will say "you dont need to do that" but i live in the desert and i totally have to do things that others dont.
my coir mix is 5x brickweight in water +2qts verm.
4:1 spawn ratio then 2qts of casing.
so its a 7qt total spawn. that gives me all the water i need until second flush but i still gotta dunk.
"YoU doN't NEeD caSInG FoR cuBEz"
No muthafucka, you don't. My tiny bottles sure do at less than 15% RH.
Right?!?
 I know these aren't that accurate, but it fucking rained this morning and the humidity doesn't even register in my office.
What works for some don't for others. So I will use Hydroton if I want to, dammit.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Inocuole] 11
#28185679 - 02/13/23 03:12 PM (1 year, 16 days ago) |
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All that really matters is results. A good grower is one who is able to identify conditions and adjust for it, not someone who adheres to a rigid formula regardless of region.
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BeefSupremeJr
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Auron] 1
#28185726 - 02/13/23 03:54 PM (1 year, 16 days ago) |
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Auron said:
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BeefSupremeJr said:
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Auron said: My shoeboxes seem to be drying out even with the lid on. I live in Denver, high and dry.
They donβt seal very well, should there be a tight seal?
Id say your coir moisture is inadequate. your ratio of spawn to sub might need bumped too
whats your recipe.
I did 1:2 shredded pf tek to coir/verm. Field capacity was several drops because the last one was barely any and I wanted more moisture.
1:2 isnt enough water for the desert. (id consider denver pretty much a desert in terms of rh)
you have 3 quarts total and 7 is barely enough to flush once.
field capacity isnt really something you wanna guess with either. you need to establish a baseline for data so you know where youve been and where to go.
a "few drops" could mean 3.5x brick weight depending on how hard youre squeezing. subjective assessmsnts can get you in trouble.
I think you and I probably are operating in a similar climate. in fact i know we are. Id try 5x brick weight then add more verm if you think its too wet. i personally have found this to be a solid figure for *our climate
if i did this in maine where im at half the year, it would be a disaster.
Edited by BeefSupremeJr (02/13/23 03:58 PM)
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Auron
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BeefSupremeJr said:
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Auron said:
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BeefSupremeJr said:
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Auron said: My shoeboxes seem to be drying out even with the lid on. I live in Denver, high and dry.
They donβt seal very well, should there be a tight seal?
Id say your coir moisture is inadequate. your ratio of spawn to sub might need bumped too
whats your recipe.
I did 1:2 shredded pf tek to coir/verm. Field capacity was several drops because the last one was barely any and I wanted more moisture.
1:2 isnt enough water for the desert. (id consider denver pretty much a desert in terms of rh)
you have 3 quarts total and 7 is barely enough to flush once.
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So 1:3 be better?
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Auron] 1
#28186361 - 02/13/23 10:21 PM (1 year, 16 days ago) |
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1:4. then two more on top.
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fiddle_head
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Inocuole] 1
#28186399 - 02/13/23 10:50 PM (1 year, 16 days ago) |
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: fiddle_head] 8
#28186571 - 02/14/23 01:42 AM (1 year, 16 days ago) |
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Yeah Iβm working work around 10% RH all year too. For a long time I was doing fine but having to mist every day or so. Then I tried making my sub a little bit wetter and it made a HUGE difference. Field cap is tricky cuz thereβs a big range that works fine but a small sweet spot. Now I donβt touch after spawning.
Also if you have ac or a heater running a lot like I do itβs very hard to keep them from drying out. I started putting my shoeboxes into a slightly larger tub with pastyβs hole pattern on them and now everything is bulletproof.
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