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Can someone check my tubs? No pins after 3 weeks :( 1
#28180432 - 02/10/23 06:02 AM (1 year, 11 months ago) |
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What's up friends. I'm running 6 shoeboxes that were spawned to bulk with CVG 3 weeks ago and I only have one measly pin from the whole lot so far. They're at warm room temp with lids unlatched and in ambient light from a window (as per normal).
I used oat spawn that I inoculated with agar myc which came from a clone I'd taken from a successful PE grow. I know people often case PEs but I didn't case them on the last (successful) grow as the spore print I bought was actually sold as Golden teachers. I was kindly informed here on Shroomery that I was actually growing PEs! https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/28040305. Anyway, my point is that I didn't case them and they grew just fine.
Can you take a look at my tubs and tell me how they're looking? I suspect contam in a couple but the others are just going slooooow. Seems like some knots forming and one tub has like 1 1/2 pins but that's about it! Help!
Tub 1

Tub 2

Random pics of the other tubs

Sorry they're shit photos. Best my cam can do unfortunately! TIA
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Re: Can someone check my tubs? No pins after 3 weeks :( [Re: Hungryghost03]
#28180448 - 02/10/23 06:14 AM (1 year, 11 months ago) |
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PE is super slow compared to most cubensis varieties..it takes an average of 2-3 weeks longer than regular cubes... I think you'll be seeing pins within a week or so
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Re: Can someone check my tubs? No pins after 3 weeks :( [Re: Leftfield420]
#28180451 - 02/10/23 06:18 AM (1 year, 11 months ago) |
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Re: Can someone check my tubs? No pins after 3 weeks :( [Re: Leftfield420]
#28180452 - 02/10/23 06:19 AM (1 year, 11 months ago) |
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Leftfield420 said: PE is super slow compared to most cubensis varieties..it takes an average of 2-3 weeks longer than regular cubes... I think you'll be seeing pins within a week or so
Oh cool, I didn't know that, thanks! Would you recommend I case them or is it too late now that some knots are forming?
I've seen all sorts of fancy casing teks but I was thinking that if I were to do it, I'd probs just go for straight coir if that would work? Although ideally, I'd rather just not case at all if I can get away with it!
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Re: Can someone check my tubs? No pins after 3 weeks :( [Re: Hungryghost03]
#28180458 - 02/10/23 06:22 AM (1 year, 11 months ago) |
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some PE variants need a proper casing so they don't blob out, and some do ok with a top layer of coir...you can case now or just leave it be... but casing usually helps with pinset
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Re: Can someone check my tubs? No pins after 3 weeks :( [Re: Hungryghost03] 1
#28180473 - 02/10/23 06:31 AM (1 year, 11 months ago) |
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Idk they’re probably right. But that looks an awful lot like some bacterial shoeboxes I had. If it ends up pinning fast and few then it’s likely that. I hope you get a good pinset though. Keep us posted.
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Re: Can someone check my tubs? No pins after 3 weeks :( [Re: Leftfield420]
#28180483 - 02/10/23 06:36 AM (1 year, 11 months ago) |
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Leftfield420 said: some PE variants need a proper casing so they don't blob out, and some do ok with a top layer of coir...you can case now or just leave it be... but casing usually helps with pinset
Well given that the shroom I'd cloned from grew nicely without casing, I suppose that's a fairly good indicator (though not guaranteed) that this batch will be similarly successful without casing 🤷♂️.
I'm away for the weekend so won't really have the time until Monday, but I have another couple of tubs that are like 2 weeks behind so perhaps I can experiment with casing those when the time comes.
So, to clarify, I would wait until the sub is fully colonised, then apply a thin casing layer just enough to cover the surface...Other than straight coir or CVG, what's an easy casing recipe you might use? Ideally I don't wanna have to go out and buy a shit load more supplies as my little apartment is already bursting at the seams with shroom related paraphernalia! 😅
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Re: Can someone check my tubs? No pins after 3 weeks :( [Re: Hungryghost03]
#28180486 - 02/10/23 06:40 AM (1 year, 11 months ago) |
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I'd recommend lotkid's PE tips... I don't mess with PE much
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Re: Can someone check my tubs? No pins after 3 weeks :( [Re: fiddle_head]
#28180488 - 02/10/23 06:42 AM (1 year, 11 months ago) |
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fiddle_head said: Idk they’re probably right. But that looks an awful lot like some bacterial shoeboxes I had. If it ends up pinning fast and few then it’s likely that. I hope you get a good pinset though. Keep us posted.
That's what I was worried about. There's one in particular that looks a bit suspect but it's really hard to see from the pics. The sub on one half of it has a kind of dull lifeless look to it compared with the other side of it. Hard to explain but I've seen it before and it ended up contaminating. I have a shit sense of smell (blame ketamine!) but it also seems to have a very slight sweet smell (obvs bad)... Though this could very well be my imagination!
Anyway, I've isolated that one from the rest. Hopefully at least I'll get some fruits from the rest
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Re: Can someone check my tubs? No pins after 3 weeks :( [Re: Leftfield420]
#28180492 - 02/10/23 06:45 AM (1 year, 11 months ago) |
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Leftfield420 said: I'd recommend lotkid's PE tips... I don't mess with PE much
Cool cool. Yeah I'll probs just stick to B+ in future. The extra hassle doesn't seem worth it just for a chance they might be marginally stronger than "regular" cubes. I can just grow an abundance of B+ and just eat slightly more 😂
Thanks for your help dude ✌️
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Re: Can someone check my tubs? No pins after 3 weeks :( [Re: Hungryghost03]
#28180495 - 02/10/23 06:46 AM (1 year, 11 months ago) |
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you still get fruit from bacterial spawn... I seen no mold though
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Re: Can someone check my tubs? No pins after 3 weeks :( [Re: Leftfield420]
#28180556 - 02/10/23 07:50 AM (1 year, 11 months ago) |
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You got a foil print that grew PE?
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Re: Can someone check my tubs? No pins after 3 weeks :( [Re: A.k.a]
#28180575 - 02/10/23 07:59 AM (1 year, 11 months ago) |
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A.k.a said: You got a foil print that grew PE?
Yeah dude. Well, to be more precise, I got a foil print that I bought from a trusted vendor that was sold as Golden Teachers. It was only after posting my grows here that I was told by several people that I'd actually grown PEs. Maybe the vendor got the order wrong 🤷♂️
I'm still not entirely convinced. I thought I was just dealing with some weird mutations or something, but what do I know! Check out the pics and see what you think. Would be interested to know your thoughts...
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/28040305
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Re: Can someone check my tubs? No pins after 3 weeks :( [Re: Hungryghost03]
#28181592 - 02/11/23 12:04 AM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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I think it’s probably just an odd pheno. They do look kinda like PE but not totally. That and the fact that it was a print, which PE doesn’t drop, makes me think it’s just a chunky GT that happened to have caps that didn’t open fully.
Anything is possible though but I really don’t see a vendor printing a variety that doesn’t make prints and then mislabeling it.
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Re: Can someone check my tubs? No pins after 3 weeks :( [Re: A.k.a]
#28181685 - 02/11/23 02:51 AM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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A.k.a said: I think it’s probably just an odd pheno. They do look kinda like PE but not totally. That and the fact that it was a print, which PE doesn’t drop, makes me think it’s just a chunky GT that happened to have caps that didn’t open fully.
Anything is possible though but I really don’t see a vendor printing a variety that doesn’t make prints and then mislabeling it.
Ah I see. Yeah that makes more sense to be honest! Weird how they formed blobs though!
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Re: Can someone check my tubs? No pins after 3 weeks :( [Re: A.k.a]
#28183435 - 02/12/23 06:21 AM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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A.k.a said: I think it’s probably just an odd pheno. They do look kinda like PE but not totally. That and the fact that it was a print, which PE doesn’t drop, makes me think it’s just a chunky GT that happened to have caps that didn’t open fully.
Anything is possible though but I really don’t see a vendor printing a variety that doesn’t make prints and then mislabeling it.
Yo AKA, can you check the updated pics in my new post? Would really appreciate it! https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/28183425
I'm getting what look like blobs along with suspected bacterial contam in most, if not all tubs now. My prediction is that I have some shitty genetics that have somehow also contamed and that I will likely get a few very small flushes of active yet wierd looking shrooms if I'm lucky.. Would be interested to hear your assessment though!
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Re: Can someone check my tubs? No pins after 3 weeks :( [Re: Hungryghost03]
#28184758 - 02/12/23 11:03 PM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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Yeah definitely looks like it’s got a little bacteria based on some of those yellow spots and myc poofs.
Tubs like that can put out a decent flush more often than you’d think though.
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Re: Can someone check my tubs? No pins after 3 weeks :( [Re: A.k.a]
#28184826 - 02/13/23 01:17 AM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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A.k.a said: Yeah definitely looks like it’s got a little bacteria based on some of those yellow spots and myc poofs.
Tubs like that can put out a decent flush more often than you’d think though.
I've dealt with tubs like these more times than I care to admit. I usually have a ~25% (very rough) success rate with 1:1 and a little higher with top-fruiting.
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Re: Can someone check my tubs? No pins after 3 weeks :( [Re: A.k.a]
#28184958 - 02/13/23 03:57 AM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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A.k.a said: Yeah definitely looks like it’s got a little bacteria based on some of those yellow spots and myc poofs.
Tubs like that can put out a decent flush more often than you’d think though.
Sweet, thanks. They're not looking great but it's all a learning curve isn't it! Hopefully I'll get at least a few decent fruits as I'm due a trip
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Re: Can someone check my tubs? No pins after 3 weeks :( [Re: Hungryghost03]
#28185048 - 02/13/23 07:02 AM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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I think you’ll be ok, I’ve gotten flushes off way worse looking tubs.
As long as there’s not aggressive mold you’re in good shape bacteria or not.
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Re: Can someone check my tubs? No pins after 3 weeks :( [Re: A.k.a]
#28185287 - 02/13/23 10:42 AM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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A.k.a said: I think you’ll be ok, I’ve gotten flushes off way worse looking tubs.
As long as there’s not aggressive mold you’re in good shape bacteria or not.
Nice. Cheers mate. Appreciate the encouragement 👍
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