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Re: Has Anyone Tried This Chamber? [Re: Thomas Envisio] * 2
    #28173088 - 02/05/23 08:20 AM (1 year, 11 months ago)

In case you're missing my point I'm just gonna go ahead and outright state it.

These products are useless, at best they preform as well as our regular fruiting chambers. In general though, they seem to preform worse. For a ton of money.

They are straight up predatory, making promises they can't keep aimed at newbies cause no one with any experience will buy this. They also won't help teach newbies anything about cultivation or proper fruiting conditions.

Looks wise, you can get some beautiful grows that are just as automated for much less. Try a fish bowl for example or a simple cloche style terrarium from a home decor store.

Please stop giving these scams publicity


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Re: Has Anyone Tried This Chamber? [Re: SirPsycho]
    #28173093 - 02/05/23 08:26 AM (1 year, 11 months ago)

I don't think they are scams. I do agree that they are over-priced to the point of being offensive and aggressive. However, that's the world we live in today. That doesn't make them scams. Also, since neither of us has tried these systems, we should probably be neutral rather than being overly positive or overly negative about them. I personally no longer grow fungi. I only hunt them and study them, and I do taxonomy. I don't need them any longer. If I did grow, I would buy the top model and try it out, or try to build my own system based on it. Mushrooms look amazing in some chambers, and they look less amazing in others.

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Re: Has Anyone Tried This Chamber? [Re: Thomas Envisio] * 1
    #28173095 - 02/05/23 08:30 AM (1 year, 11 months ago)

No, they are definitely scams. No need to try them. Their promotional materials show enough about how poorly they grow mushrooms and that's a clear indication that they were not designed by someone proficient in cultivation. They are just a money grab that preys on newbies


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Re: Has Anyone Tried This Chamber? [Re: SirPsycho] * 1
    #28173096 - 02/05/23 08:32 AM (1 year, 11 months ago)

:tubgirl:


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Re: Has Anyone Tried This Chamber? [Re: SirPsycho]
    #28173101 - 02/05/23 08:38 AM (1 year, 11 months ago)

What if a bunch of people who own their own successful restaurants, and who happen to be very wealthy, now want to buy models like this? There are tiers of financially viable people who would buy these systems for multiple reasons. From their perspective, pre-built and automated systems may very well be something for them, and well within their price range.

Other people may wish to build their own system out of pride or for the enjoyment. If someone ends up finding out how to make highly similar systems, thanks in part to the Mella entrepreneurs who inspired a Youtube video, that could be a positive thing.

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Re: Has Anyone Tried This Chamber? [Re: Thomas Envisio] * 1
    #28173106 - 02/05/23 08:41 AM (1 year, 11 months ago)

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I don't think they are scams. I do agree that they are over-priced to the point of being offensive and aggressive



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Re: Has Anyone Tried This Chamber? [Re: bakedbeings]
    #28173112 - 02/05/23 08:47 AM (1 year, 11 months ago)


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Re: Has Anyone Tried This Chamber? [Re: Thomas Envisio] * 1
    #28173114 - 02/05/23 08:49 AM (1 year, 11 months ago)

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What if a bunch of people who own their own successful restaurants, and who happen to be very wealthy, now want to buy models like this? There are tiers of financially viable people who would buy these systems for multiple reasons. From their perspective, pre-built and automated systems may very well be something for them, and well within their price range.





I'm sure they would buy them, people with means get scammed all the time too.

Financially and practically there are no reasons to buy this for anyone. These will not produce on any sort of large scale like for the needs of a restaurant.


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Re: Has Anyone Tried This Chamber? [Re: SirPsycho] * 2
    #28173122 - 02/05/23 08:59 AM (1 year, 11 months ago)

This thread is an ad for your crap product.


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Re: Has Anyone Tried This Chamber? [Re: JHOVA] * 1
    #28173125 - 02/05/23 09:01 AM (1 year, 11 months ago)

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This thread is an ad for your crap product.



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Re: Has Anyone Tried This Chamber? [Re: JHOVA] * 2
    #28173127 - 02/05/23 09:02 AM (1 year, 11 months ago)

I've had an idea for a crap product for a while, no time to execute, pm me if anyone wants to get rich


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Re: Has Anyone Tried This Chamber? [Re: LadysKnight] * 1
    #28173131 - 02/05/23 09:04 AM (1 year, 11 months ago)

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I've had an idea for a crap product for a while, no time to execute, pm me if anyone wants to get rich



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Re: Has Anyone Tried This Chamber? [Re: Thomas Envisio]
    #28173146 - 02/05/23 09:27 AM (1 year, 11 months ago)

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I don't think they are scams. I do agree that they are over-priced to the point of being offensive and aggressive. However, that's the world we live in today. That doesn't make them scams. Also, since neither of us has tried these systems, we should probably be neutral rather than being overly positive or overly negative about them. I personally no longer grow fungi. I only hunt them and study them, and I do taxonomy. I don't need them any longer. If I did grow, I would buy the top model and try it out, or try to build my own system based on it. Mushrooms look amazing in some chambers, and they look less amazing in others.




This whole objectivity thing is just, sounds like a bunch of bs to me. Make simple things more simple, not less simple, simple.
lol you don't gotta get defensive when a product gets slammed for being unwieldy as shit and redundant in 2023
when someone comes in here touting these insanely expensive alternatives to a $20 tub the tendency is it gets stfd pretty quick down.
no offense


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Re: Has Anyone Tried This Chamber? [Re: Thomas Envisio] * 1
    #28173149 - 02/05/23 09:29 AM (1 year, 11 months ago)

Thomas Envisio said:
For a less aesthetic, more yield-oriented model, this one will probably work...

https://thinkfungi.org/product/mushroom-monotub-max-yield/



yield oriented model
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Re: Has Anyone Tried This Chamber? [Re: Thomas Envisio]
    #28173152 - 02/05/23 09:31 AM (1 year, 11 months ago)

Wheres the Willy reaction


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Re: Has Anyone Tried This Chamber? [Re: fiddle_head]
    #28173195 - 02/05/23 09:59 AM (1 year, 11 months ago)

I will work on my conduct, rather than participate in deprecating dialogue. It appears to be a requisite part of higher fungi for those seeking more than a quick, shallow laugh.

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Re: Has Anyone Tried This Chamber? [Re: Thomas Envisio]
    #28173196 - 02/05/23 10:02 AM (1 year, 11 months ago)

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I will work on my conduct, rather than participate in deprecating dialogue. It appears to be a requisite part of higher fungi for those seeking more than a quick, shallow laugh.




My man why wont you just hear the truth already. This is Shroomery not a vulcan learning cnahmber pod


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Re: Has Anyone Tried This Chamber? [Re: fiddle_head] * 1
    #28173250 - 02/05/23 10:40 AM (1 year, 11 months ago)

laughter is a beautiful thing. we arent the ones calling people dumb and broke for not endorsing offensively overpriced nonsense


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Re: Has Anyone Tried This Chamber? [Re: Thomas Envisio] * 4
    #28173252 - 02/05/23 10:43 AM (1 year, 11 months ago)

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Some of the things I've noticed worldwide among the Earth's citizenries is poverty mentality (being stingy permanently), a lack of achieving an aesthetic setting, and debasing interactions. For those involved in psychedelic fungi, I strongly urge you to be mindful of not falling into poverty mentality. I also strongly recommend achieving an aesthetic setting for you and your mushrooms. A positive mental intention coinciding with positive thoughts and uplifting words is also very helpful. Let's not call each other names. Let's not criticize something we haven't tried that is quite harmless. Cheers!



What you call poverty mentality I call self sufficiency and DIY ethic. This container is a scam and a total waste of money. Unless you like wasting money for the purposes of showing off that you don’t have a β€œpoverty mentality.” Ugh this whole paragraph you wrote just stinks of entitlement. Just the phrase poverty mentality pisses me off. And then you say let’s not call each other names but then accuse us of having a poverty mentality because we like DIY instead of overpaying for something β€œpretty.” :evilpuke:


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Re: Has Anyone Tried This Chamber? [Re: bakedbeings]
    #28173277 - 02/05/23 10:58 AM (1 year, 11 months ago)

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laughter is a beautiful thing. we arent the ones calling people dumb and broke for not endorsing offensively overpriced nonsense



:cookiemonster: cant argue with that


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