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RoscoeReturns
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USDA plant hardiness zone 5 - what are you growing?
#28163852 - 01/30/23 06:33 AM (11 months, 22 days ago) |
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What are your must haves in your ethnobotanical garden in USDA zone 5? And what would you add if you built a greenhouse?
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KannaKris
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Re: USDA plant hardiness zone 5 - what are you growing? [Re: RoscoeReturns]
#28163874 - 01/30/23 06:54 AM (11 months, 22 days ago) |
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Zone 5! and I thought I had it bad here in zone 7, hehe
Unless you build a greenhouse with heat, nothing will survive in an unheated greenhouse in zone 5. I can't even do that here in zone 7.
Do you plan on heating it during the winter? If so, then the possibilities are endless as to what you can grow
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Re: USDA plant hardiness zone 5 - what are you growing? [Re: KannaKris]
#28163885 - 01/30/23 07:10 AM (11 months, 22 days ago) |
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Heating the greenhouse could be done. I hadn’t really considered it, but if it needs to be I can.
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KannaKris
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Re: USDA plant hardiness zone 5 - what are you growing? [Re: RoscoeReturns]
#28163902 - 01/30/23 07:27 AM (11 months, 22 days ago) |
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Well, you can grow anything form cacti to tropical's then, depending on how big you build it 
What kinds of plants are you actually interested in growing?
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Re: USDA plant hardiness zone 5 - what are you growing? [Re: KannaKris]
#28163983 - 01/30/23 08:33 AM (11 months, 22 days ago) |
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This thread is to help figure that out. Just scratching the surface of plants, but been cultivating mushrooms for a bit. I want to try San Pedro cactus for sure, possibly poppies. Other than that I’m just starting to learn what’s out there.
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Re: USDA plant hardiness zone 5 - what are you growing? [Re: RoscoeReturns]
#28164169 - 01/30/23 10:56 AM (11 months, 22 days ago) |
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Well, definitely go with Cacti then, they are super easy to grow indoors or out 
Poppies really do better being sowed directly in the ground than inside a greenhouse in containers, However it can be done. Just don't expect large yields, if that's what you're after ;-)
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Re: USDA plant hardiness zone 5 - what are you growing? [Re: KannaKris]
#28164350 - 01/30/23 12:57 PM (11 months, 22 days ago) |
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Here is what you need 
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Re: USDA plant hardiness zone 5 - what are you growing? [Re: RoscoeReturns]
#28165147 - 01/30/23 10:12 PM (11 months, 21 days ago) |
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Cool that they let the cactus grow through the roof. I am planning a small heated greenhouse so I can get my ethnobotanicals out of the house next winter. They are quite easy to build and don't cost much.
Zone 7 here but none of my plants are cold-hardy. Would be interested to learn about any ethnobotanicals people are growing that can survive frost.
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RoscoeReturns said: This thread is to help figure that out. Just scratching the surface of plants, but been cultivating mushrooms for a bit. I want to try San Pedro cactus for sure, possibly poppies. Other than that I’m just starting to learn what’s out there.
Planning on starting your San Pedro's from seed? They are quite easy to get started and a lot of fun to grow. Also you just need a windowsill for the first couple years.
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Re: USDA plant hardiness zone 5 - what are you growing? [Re: asmr]
#28165378 - 01/31/23 04:50 AM (11 months, 21 days ago) |
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I think that I would have cut that cactus before it went through the roof, hehe, but that is just me.
Well, I know here in zone 7, I grow some semi tropical plants, and purely tropical plants in the ground here, and they come back every spring.
I have bananas, cannas, figs, and brugmansia, all growing unprotected in the ground, and so far it's gotten -5 here.
I also have tropical hibiscus, palms, and other not so cold hardy plants out in my unheated shed, and it's freezing cold in there. All plants are doing great too.
So, that all being said, No, they are not in a greenhouse, but they all survive subzero temps every season with no harm, so, you could try some of those plants out for size 
You'd really be surprised just how many warm weather pants wills survive freezing temps as long as their roots don't freeze, and my neighbor up the street gets bananas from her plants, something that I have yet to do with mine.
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Re: USDA plant hardiness zone 5 - what are you growing? [Re: KannaKris]
#28170811 - 02/03/23 01:50 PM (11 months, 18 days ago) |
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KannaKris said:
Unless you build a greenhouse with heat, nothing will survive in an unheated greenhouse in zone 5. I can't even do that here in zone 7.
That's not necessarily true.
https://nebraskapublicmedia.org/en/news/news-articles/visit-a-nebraska-greenhouse-that-grows-lemons-and-oranges/
This guy lives in zone 5 and grows "hundreds of pounds of citrus" every year.
He does use geothermal heat though, so not totally unheated but he is using nothing but the heat from the earth.
Even without geothermal, if your greenhouse has inflated plastic (two layers of plastic inflated by a fan) it can give you enough insulation to compensate for 2 grow zones. So a plant that is rated for zone 3 you could grow in zone 5, in theory. But if you're talking about cacti and succulents, you're totally right, not a chance in hell of surviving in an unheated greenhouse in zone 5
Edited by Sky High (02/03/23 10:25 PM)
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Re: USDA plant hardiness zone 5 - what are you growing? [Re: Sky High]
#28171286 - 02/03/23 08:00 PM (11 months, 17 days ago) |
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That is freaking unreal!!! But man, that would cost a fortune to do all that, I'd imagine!
I love growing citrus, and I have a big Mexican Lime tree, and some smaller ones. The big one, I grew from seed back in 2014 and it flowered and produced tons of limes indoors a couple of years back. It, However, didn't flower last year, but this year I got a few blooms and fruits trying to grow.
It's just too dark for it in my house, and there is no way to put it outside until nearly May. I'll probably just have to give up on them living here. It's just not practical to grow citrus in zone 7 indoors period, and it's just gotten too dang big!
But yeah, if you have the money, I reckon that you could grow citrus in Alaska if need be, but I'm as poor as poor can get, haha, so..............
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