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http://www.cnn.com/2004/LAW/06/21/crime.streaker.reut/index.html
HOUSTON, Texas (Reuters) -- A Texas jury on Monday found a British streaker guilty of criminal trespassing for racing onto the field during the Super Bowl in February with only a thong and a smile.
Mark Roberts, 39, could face up to 180 days in jail and a $2,000 fine for the misdemeanor crime when the jury of six women considers his sentence on Tuesday.
Roberts danced an Irish jig at midfield at Reliant Stadium before New England Patriots linebacker Matt Chatham knocked him off his feet and police carried him away.
A veteran streaker who has strutted his stuff at hundreds of events around the world, Roberts said he was disappointed by the verdict.
"If making people laugh is a criminal offense, then they should send me to prison for life," he told reporters.
Roberts said he has been arrested many times but never convicted of a crime in connection with streaking.
Defense attorney Sharon Levine told the jury that Roberts did not trespass because there were no signs posted in the stadium telling people to stay off the field.
But prosecutor Kristin Guiney argued that Roberts' antics could not be tolerated in post-September 11 America.
"As light-hearted about this as I'd like to be, we don't live in a society anymore where we can excuse this kind of behavior," she told the jury.
Roberts has admitted to passing through the supposedly tight Super Bowl security wearing a phony referee's uniform, then ripping it off and stepping onto the field just before the start of the second half.
An online casino ad was painted on his skin.
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Re: Land of the once free [Re: Seuss]
#2816462 - 06/22/04 07:33 AM (19 years, 9 months ago) |
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Seems to me that the terrorists have already won... can "not be tolerated in post-September 11 America."... or is that just an excuse for over zealous police state enforcers?
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Re: Land of the once free [Re: Seuss]
#2816491 - 06/22/04 07:42 AM (19 years, 9 months ago) |
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This is sad, I'm sick and tired of this idea that somehow our lives have to change because of 911. They keep telling us to live no different but come on, this is some funny shit. They had this guy at a local radio station and he was quite funny. If anything he should be fined for trespassing and let go. He knows going into an event that he's going to get arrested, so just arrest hem, give him the fine and laugh as he struts out. I don't know about you but I laughed when he came out. Maybe this is the WMD that Bush is looking for.
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Re: Land of the once free [Re: Seuss]
#2816598 - 06/22/04 08:42 AM (19 years, 9 months ago) |
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"As light-hearted about this as I'd like to be, we don't live in a society anymore where we can excuse this kind of behavior," she told the jury.
She's right, we live in an over policed, Christian government society and we frown upon nudity. We want out children to grow up ashamed of their sexuality and body. We discriminate against the homosexuals in our very own constitution and we're constant struggle to take away reproductive rights from our woman. Yet, we promote unwanted pregnancies and unwanted births because we do not educate our youth on birth control. And we still have ourselves convinced that the abstinence lesson we've been teaching in sex ed since the 1950ties is still doing its jobs. And its still illegal to say vagina on the radio.
yes, that is the kind of society we live in now. God bless America.
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Re: Land of the once free [Re: blu3]
#2816611 - 06/22/04 08:54 AM (19 years, 9 months ago) |
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discriminate against the homosexuals in our very own constitution
Hm?
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Re: Land of the once free [Re: Seuss]
#2816634 - 06/22/04 09:10 AM (19 years, 9 months ago) |
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It would be interesting to see the transcript of the prosecutor's remarks to know if she mentioned September 11 or if it was a gratuitous observation inserted by the author of the article. Certainly her quote says nothing about September 11.
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Re: Land of the once free [Re: Seuss]
#2816704 - 06/22/04 09:47 AM (19 years, 9 months ago) |
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Terrorism and 9/11 my ass. These attention seeking jerk-offs need to stay off the field. They needed to stay off the field before 2001 and they need to stay off the field now. End of discussion. I am not interested in seeing your pathetic ass running around and holding up the event. You want to show your ass, set up your own event. Otherwise go to jail. The increased intolerance for this kind of shit stems from the time in Chicago when a father and son leapt out of the stands and attacked an umpire. They weren't even pissed about a particular call he had made, they just wanted to be dicks on TV. Fuck that.
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Re: Land of the once free [Re: Seuss]
#2816881 - 06/22/04 11:15 AM (19 years, 9 months ago) |
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Yet another example...
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WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The U.S. Senate approved on Tuesday measures to substantially raise fines for airing indecent material on broadcast television and radio, and invalidate media ownership rules that were eased last year.
The measures were attached to the $447 billion bill authorizing defense programs which is expected to pass this year. Fines would be raised to $275,000 per incident up to a maximum of $3 million per day.
The U.S. House of Representatives passed different language so the legislation will have to be worked out before it can be presented for President Bush (news - web sites) to sign or veto.
... a $3,000,000 (three million dollars!) fine per day seems to be a bit excessive for simply offending somebody else with what you say. Hell, half the f%^#cks in congress offend me with what they say every day... why can't I fine them?
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Re: Land of the once free [Re: Seuss]
#2817410 - 06/22/04 02:16 PM (19 years, 9 months ago) |
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you can't fine them cuz you aren't a member of congress.
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Re: Land of the once free [Re: uki]
#2817555 - 06/22/04 03:05 PM (19 years, 9 months ago) |
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What the fuck does this have to do with some jerk-off running onto the field?
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Re: Land of the once free [Re: zappaisgod]
#2817685 - 06/22/04 03:55 PM (19 years, 9 months ago) |
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How can you have a name like Zappa is god and think it's fair to throw this guy in jail for 6 months?
Frank Zappa fought the government against what they thought was indecency.
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Re: Land of the once free [Re: Seuss]
#2817748 - 06/22/04 04:09 PM (19 years, 9 months ago) |
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another victory for idiocy, care of texas.
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Re: Land of the once free [Re: newuser1492]
#2818061 - 06/22/04 05:15 PM (19 years, 9 months ago) |
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He wasn't thrown in jail for indecency. Frank Zappa stood for personal rights. 80,000 peoples lives were interrupted for this jack ass. Fuck him, I, and everybody else there, paid to see the game, not his hairy ass, or to have the game delayed because of him. He INFLICTED his moronity on my life, on something I paid money to see. This might legally be construed as a "taking." Not only that but the bag of garbage had an ADVERTISEMENT on his flesh. I wonder what this champion of free speech was paid for that!!!!! Very early Zappa song, Nullis Pretii(no COMMERCIAL potential, Accent mine). If my art is to take a dump on your carpet, and someone pays me to do it, is that OK with you? Stay off the fucking field!!!
Aside from that, people have got to stay off the field, for the umpire beating reason I mentioned before. Frankly, if someone rushes the field and a player accidentally kills him with a body shot, how will you feel then? Or if somebody rushes the field and deliberatley kills a player or ump or ref, how will you feel then? Stay off the field, you have NO rights there. Don't be stupid. Zappa brooked no drug use in his band at all. How's that for freedom of expression?
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 Re: Land of the once free [Re: Seuss]
#2818267 - 06/22/04 06:11 PM (19 years, 9 months ago) |
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americas tourist brochure should read... "america, home of the too proud for their own good, land of the free to do what your told."
Edited by uki (06/22/04 06:12 PM)
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Re: Land of the once free [Re: uki]
#2818299 - 06/22/04 06:19 PM (19 years, 9 months ago) |
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Just what, my child, are you not free to do?
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Re: Land of the once free [Re: uki]
#2818301 - 06/22/04 06:20 PM (19 years, 9 months ago) |
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China's should just be some white American Guy poking the edges of his eyes up with his finger and making fun of Chinese people.
Bavaria's tourist brochoure should be a cake.
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Re: Land of the once free [Re: Seuss]
#2818313 - 06/22/04 06:22 PM (19 years, 9 months ago) |
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Also one should point out that America is not living up to it's designation as the "Home of the brave" either.
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Re: Land of the once free [Re: Baby_Hitler]
#2818343 - 06/22/04 06:29 PM (19 years, 9 months ago) |
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home of the fearful and the obese is more like it. if those brave souls of the colonial times were alive today, they'd probably be ashamed to be called an american.
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Re: Land of the once free [Re: Baby_Hitler]
#2818347 - 06/22/04 06:29 PM (19 years, 9 months ago) |
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I have one overarching question right now. How the fuck did Baby Hitler become a mod????? Can someone please explain this?
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Re: Land of the once free [Re: zappaisgod]
#2818355 - 06/22/04 06:31 PM (19 years, 9 months ago) |
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One word:
Satan.
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Re: Land of the once free [Re: zappaisgod]
#2818366 - 06/22/04 06:34 PM (19 years, 9 months ago) |
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let me put a response to your last post this way,:
"Why is this stupid shit in this thread???"
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Re: Land of the once free [Re: Baby_Hitler]
#2818373 - 06/22/04 06:36 PM (19 years, 9 months ago) |
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I suspect fellatio
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Re: Land of the once free [Re: vampirism]
#2818410 - 06/22/04 06:48 PM (19 years, 9 months ago) |
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You're stalking me, you freak. You responded to a post I made in another thread in this thread and that post was a non-sequitor there. (How's that for a sentence????? "I would have had to have had it" One of my favorites) I'm onto you now
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Re: Land of the once free [Re: blu3]
#2818688 - 06/22/04 08:16 PM (19 years, 9 months ago) |
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She's right, we live in an over policed, Christian government society and we frown upon nudity.
Is that why pornographic webpages make up the majority of the internet? Girls Gone Wild ads are on daily?
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We discriminate against the homosexuals in our very own constitution
i'm not familiar with that, maybe you could show me where we do that?
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and we're constant struggle to take away reproductive rights from our woman.
lol. We are in a constant struggle to allow babies to be chopped up and wet/dry vacced out of their slut "moms" stomach so she can continue fucking around.Typical liberalism.
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Yet, we promote unwanted pregnancies and unwanted births because we do not educate our youth on birth control.
We don't? Schools don't teach about condom use? they aren't offered for free in the health offices? MTV doesn't have commercials on about it all the time? What planet do you live on?
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yes, that is the kind of society we live in now. God bless America.
You'd prefer America where people could just fuck like rabbits, and if they get pregnant, well fuck it, we can saline-burn the little fucker to death!
I can't wait till the next round of McVeighs and Rudolphs start up again. Maybe they'll have 500 trucks lined up...
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Re: Land of the once free [Re: Ancalagon]
#2819515 - 06/22/04 11:36 PM (19 years, 9 months ago) |
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discriminate against the homosexuals in our very own constitution
Hm?
welll.. no.. but we attempted too and bush wasn't the only one who liked the idea
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Is that why pornographic webpages make up the majority of the internet? Girls Gone Wild ads are on daily?
Thats because that's considered freedom of speech, something they've tried but realized we can't take that away... noticed that their boobs are fuzzed out.. Do you remember the Janet jackson nipple scandle.. OH NO.. its a nipple
i'm not familiar with that, maybe you could show me where we do that?
well, we don't... not yet anyways.. its still in debate.
lol. We are in a constant struggle to allow babies to be chopped up and wet/dry vacced out of their slut "moms" stomach so she can continue fucking around.Typical liberalism.
EXCUSE ME?! Can I say "typical male" and not be considered a flame.... Its not about who gets an abortion or why they get one. The point is that it is MY body, MY uterus and it is MY choice period. You know, 1 out of ever 4 women have had an abortion. So, between your mom, you sister, your aunt and your girlfriend one of them may have had or will have an abortion. not insulting you, just giving an example you can relate to.
We don't? Schools don't teach about condom use? they aren't offered for free in the health offices? MTV doesn't have commercials on about it all the time? What planet do you live on?
Um.. no, schools don't teach about condom use. At least in not my school and in every school in my state they don't. I believe at one school event they tried to pass out condoms to students and the school was SUED for promoting sex. Look it up buddy, they still teach abstinence in sex ed. They say the best way to prevent STDs and unwanted pregnancies is to abstain.. true as that may be its not practical to expect students to abstain I live on planet earth.
You'd prefer America where people could just fuck like rabbits, and if they get pregnant, well fuck it, we can saline-burn the little fucker to death!
umm... no i don't. Don't be a fucking idiot. I'd perfer an america that wasn't run by a fascist christian goverment, men and women that clearly have their heads buryed in the sand concerning censorship and sexuality.
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Re: Land of the once free [Re: zappaisgod]
#2819687 - 06/23/04 12:34 AM (19 years, 9 months ago) |
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He INFLICTED his moronity on my life, on something I paid money to see. This might legally be construed as a "taking." Not only that but the bag of garbage had an ADVERTISEMENT on his flesh.
did u drive to the game? i breathe your exhaust. asshole.
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Re: Land of the once free [Re: zappaisgod]
#2819739 - 06/23/04 12:53 AM (19 years, 9 months ago) |
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I have one overarching question right now. How the fuck did Baby Hitler become a mod????? Can someone please explain this?
This website is dedicated to stopping the spread of misinformation concerning magic mushrooms...
Im guessing it had something to do with his experience with mushrooms.
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Re: Land of the once free [Re: zappaisgod]
#2820128 - 06/23/04 06:56 AM (19 years, 9 months ago) |
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> What the fuck does this have to do with some jerk-off running onto the field?
The thread wasn't meant to be about some jerk-off running onto a field... rather it is about the loss of basic freedoms in the land of the free, compared to the rest of the world.
A guy that has streaked all over the world only gets jailed in the US.
What you say on the radio offends the people in charge... $3 mil per day fine.
The basic rights that the US was founded upon are being taken away, daily. There are more important things in the world than sports, trust me.
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Re: Land of the once free [Re: Innvertigo]
#2820225 - 06/23/04 08:38 AM (19 years, 9 months ago) |
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I know it's off topic but, Innvertigo, I like your avatar. The deaths head transposed over the flag of the United States is quite appropriate for this time period in the history of the USA.
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Re: Land of the once free [Re: grib]
#2820328 - 06/23/04 09:34 AM (19 years, 9 months ago) |
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blu, you're my boy!
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Re: Land of the once free [Re: Seuss]
#2820501 - 06/23/04 10:30 AM (19 years, 9 months ago) |
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http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=1826247
HOUSTON -- The man who frolicked near naked on the field during the Super Bowl was fined $1,000 Tuesday but won't have to spend any time in jail.
Mark Francis Roberts, 39, was fined by the same six-woman jury that found him guilty Monday of misdemeanor trespassing. That carries a maximum sentence of six months in jail and up to a $2,000 fine.
Mark Francis Roberts, sans birthday suit, was fined by the same six-woman jury that found him guilty Monday of misdemeanor trespassing.
Jurors deliberated for about an hour before deciding on the sentence, courts coordinator Rachel Ferrel said.
"The whole reason I did it was to entertain people, America," Roberts said Monday. "If making people laugh is a criminal offense, I should be sentenced to prison for life."
Roberts, of Liverpool, England, jumped a knee-high barrier and paraded on field after halftime of the New England Patriots' Super Bowl win over the Carolina Panthers.
Roberts ran on dressed as a referee, stripped down to a football-shaped G-string and shoes, then started dancing a jig at the 30-yard line for about a minute.
New England linebacker Matt Chatham leveled Roberts as he ran from security personnel. Roberts, who had the name of a gambling Web site scribbled across his chest, was hogtied and carried off the field by police.
Roberts' Web site claims he has pulled 380 similar streaking stunts but has never before been found guilty on criminal charges.
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Re: Land of the once free [Re: grib]
#2820505 - 06/23/04 10:31 AM (19 years, 9 months ago) |
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maybe, maybe not...
maybe I should put a muslim flag there instead if that's the "message" you got.
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Re: Land of the once free [Re: Innvertigo]
#2820509 - 06/23/04 10:33 AM (19 years, 9 months ago) |
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So... some 380 odd events across the world and only one conviction... welcome to the land of the free where everything is a crime... where the prison population is larger than the population of Delaware!
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Re: Land of the once free [Re: Seuss]
#2820538 - 06/23/04 10:43 AM (19 years, 9 months ago) |
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don't get me wrong, I think it was funny as hell but the guy did tresspass and should be fined for it, you can't deny that. Personally I would of just made him pay the minimum.
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Re: Land of the once free [Re: Innvertigo]
#2820549 - 06/23/04 10:46 AM (19 years, 9 months ago) |
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it's all a matter of perception 
A 'Muslim' flag? Maybe the Israeli flag?
Hell, leave it as it is. A skull against a back-drop of the US flag is perfect! I like it so much that I saved a copy 
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Re: Land of the once free [Re: grib]
#2820582 - 06/23/04 10:59 AM (19 years, 9 months ago) |
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it's copywrited, you have to give me half of whatever you make off of it. I have no plans of changing it.
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Re: Land of the once free [Re: Innvertigo]
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it's copywrited, you have to give me half of whatever you make off of it. I have no plans of changing it.
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Re: Land of the once free [Re: Seuss]
#2831230 - 06/26/04 04:06 PM (19 years, 9 months ago) |
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So... some 380 odd events across the world and only one conviction... welcome to the land of the free where everything is a crime... where the prison population is larger than the population of Delaware!
That's not saying much. I think I've been in grocery stores with bigger population than delaware. Well, okay maybe not but good point.
$1000 isn't that much of a price. Maybe he's getting fan mail. I personally thought that was funny as shit. I might try that one day, only with a temporary tattoo of "EAT AT JOE'S" or some other high paying affiliate.
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