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OfflinePisces
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Rotten shroom help
    #2816138 - 06/22/04 05:29 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Ok, heres what happened. I picked these two shrooms which were much larger than the ones I have usually harvested and foolishly I stuck them directly into a container with Dry Z Air. The next day I find them sitting in a little pool of water soaked and looking kinda dark. I cut them both in half to check for black goo inside and found none but still should I be worried? Also, they are extremely salty tasting... any ideas?


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Re: Rotten shroom help [Re: Pisces]
    #2817469 - 06/22/04 04:32 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

would you eat rotten fruit? if you wouldn't you might decide the same about rotten shrooms.


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Re: Rotten shroom help [Re: TODAY]
    #2818592 - 06/22/04 09:51 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

dude, that shit looks nasty, if it were me i wouldn't think twice about chunking those betties.


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Re: Rotten shroom help [Re: Pisces]
    #2818635 - 06/22/04 10:04 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

The good news is that it is not contamination.  In one day bacterial contaminants will not take over a fruit like that.  Especially when soaking in a saturated calcium chloride solution.

Also good news; they are likely OK to eat with the following caveats;
1.  They are going to taste salty as hell.   
2.  They may give you an upset stomach, similar to eating a tablespoon of table salt.  Many food products contain calcium chloride [many more contain sodium chloride :wink: ].
3.  You plan on eating or preparing them SOON.  Once saturated with calcium chloride solution, mushrooms will not dry properly.  Once I spilled some of that stuff on the floor and the liquid puddle was there a month down the road.

From the MSDS:
TOXICITY: LD50 (ORAL-RAT)(MG/KG) - 1000

So if we were 160 pound rats running around eating the stuff, and we all ate about 72 grams of the stuff, half of us would die.  This translates to about 5 tablespoons.  That doesn't sound so great, actually. . .  :tongue:  We can't tell from the pic the size of those mushrooms, but there's likely less than 1 dry tablespoon of calcium chloride actually soaked into the tissue. 

From googling around, it looks like it's given intravenously for heart conditions, but at the same time is considered by many sources as  'relatively non-toxic'. 

Personally, I wouldn't mess with it.  If one were really desperate, it might be a good candidate to grind up and mix in some ditty moore stew.  Mmmm, salty.
The other thing to consider is the bluing. . .might they be a little less potent after this episode?
Anyway, all that aside, I think you'll be happier not chancing it.  If nothing else, tripping on an upset stomach is no fun.


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Re: Rotten shroom help [Re: Pisces]
    #2819800 - 06/23/04 03:23 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Dry Z Air..... Hmm...im guessing you're in the northwest. Am I right?

oh ya, and i wouldn't eat those things either.


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Re: Rotten shroom help [Re: mycoguy]
    #2819871 - 06/23/04 04:04 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Yup your right NW, and yeah I threw them out just today. Suntzu, thanks for the in depth reply I was wondering why they would not dry even after being under a fan for three days.


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Re: Rotten shroom help [Re: Pisces]
    #2820027 - 06/23/04 06:06 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

Pisces said:
Yup your right NW, and yeah I threw them out just today.




Damn, how can I be so damn good? hehe.

When I dry my edibles, I first fan dry for a few days. That usually does it good enough for me. But if i decide to dessicate them, I sit dump the dessicant into a small, air tight container (tupperware) lay down a piece of foil on top of it, then put the fungi on the foil. Works great. But the mushrooms usually get eaten pretty quick, so there isn't really a reason for me to dessicate them.


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