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Culture legality
    #28143834 - 01/17/23 12:54 AM (1 year, 10 days ago)

Keep in mind I'm only asking theoretically and am not about to trade in active cultures.

However, aren't there actually no laws against cultures? There are laws against psilocybin, and cultures are illegal because they contain a small amount.

However, if one had a culture that had a very small amount of psilocybin, it'd be functionally zero - like for example a single grain of grain spawn. Yet such a culture would obviously be enough for a mycologist to get a culture going.

Or there are low/no nute LCs.


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Re: Culture legality [Re: CreonAntigone]
    #28143842 - 01/17/23 01:16 AM (1 year, 10 days ago)

In the UK anything that contains psilocybin is illegal so that includes mycelium.
I'd be interested to find out if you could actually get some mycelium with the right genetics that it contains 0% psilocybin.


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Re: Culture legality [Re: Kmacmo] * 1
    #28143853 - 01/17/23 01:51 AM (1 year, 10 days ago)

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Kmacmo said:
In the UK anything that contains psilocybin is illegal so that includes mycelium.
I'd be interested to find out if you could actually get some mycelium with the right genetics that it contains 0% psilocybin.




Yes, and also if it was functionally undetectable.

Things that contribute to this are very low nutrition. So storing a culture that is already preserved in water - for example, imagine soaking a single piece of grain spawn in sterilized water for a day. That stores the culture, albeit in a very weak form, and presumably would have an undetectable, functionally zero amount of psilocybin.


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Re: Culture legality [Re: CreonAntigone] * 1
    #28157477 - 01/25/23 06:59 PM (1 year, 2 days ago)

One thing that makes this more complicated is that we don't know the detection cutoff for psilocybin tests that the police use.  It isn't specified in the law.


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Re: Culture legality [Re: Alan Rockefeller] * 2
    #28157555 - 01/25/23 07:40 PM (1 year, 2 days ago)

At the end of the day, drug laws are really stupid.

They're written in ways that make little practical sense, and then more or less arbitrarily enforced and prosecuted.

Unfortunately, any living culture that could be tied to actual intent could be declared a conspiracy to manufacture. All they'd have to do is use it to grow mushrooms, and then test those for psilocybin.

Luckily, interest in that legal angle on the part of law enforcement seems to be at an all-time low.


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