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New Grower. How do these spawn look? Normal? Bacterial? Ty
    #28157306 - 01/25/23 04:47 PM (1 year, 11 months ago)

Hello, new grower here.

Wondering if this is bacterial infection in my grains. The mycelium looks kinda dry and some grains wet? They were all shaken 24 hours ago and recovered kinda fast but still have that same appearance, last one in particular.

Grains were PC'ed for 2 hours at 13 psi, stored at 65 F. Popcorn.

All were inoculated 16 days ago, agar transfer. Cube.

Unmodified lid tek but forgot to loose the rings a week into the inoculation.
Good? Bad? Thanks!








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Re: New Grower. How do these spawn look? Normal? Bacterial? Ty [Re: jorvall81] * 1
    #28157324 - 01/25/23 05:04 PM (1 year, 11 months ago)

Wet grain pressed against the jar seems to be indication of bacterial infection. So I vote yes on bacterial but I would wait for other more experienced members to voice their opinions.

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Re: New Grower. How do these spawn look? Normal? Bacterial? Ty [Re: CommanderDemander] * 1
    #28157463 - 01/25/23 06:47 PM (1 year, 11 months ago)

That wet jar is not looking good at all. I would let the other two grow for another two days and post more photos since it's only 24hrs after the last shake. Maybe they will come around.

If your PC only goes to 13psi then think about using a different grain instead of popcorn.

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Re: New Grower. How do these spawn look? Normal? Bacterial? Ty [Re: Baba Yaga]
    #28157480 - 01/25/23 07:00 PM (1 year, 11 months ago)

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Re: New Grower. How do these spawn look? Normal? Bacterial? Ty [Re: bakedbeings]
    #28157657 - 01/25/23 08:56 PM (1 year, 11 months ago)

Thank you! Will shake and see if they recover fast or not in those two days.

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Re: New Grower. How do these spawn look? Normal? Bacterial? Ty [Re: jorvall81] * 2
    #28157667 - 01/25/23 09:01 PM (1 year, 11 months ago)

Growth is way too light and wispy for traditional cubes.

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Re: New Grower. How do these spawn look? Normal? Bacterial? Ty [Re: CocaineBuffet]
    #28157672 - 01/25/23 09:07 PM (1 year, 11 months ago)

Yeah, they look completely different from other jars I'm growing :/.

I'm currently PC'ing WBS atm, hope I have better luck with that type of grain.

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Re: New Grower. How do these spawn look? Normal? Bacterial? Ty [Re: jorvall81]
    #28157799 - 01/26/23 12:48 AM (1 year, 11 months ago)

You can still put those jars to a shoebox and give it a go.


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Re: New Grower. How do these spawn look? Normal? Bacterial? Ty [Re: johnukguy] * 2
    #28157800 - 01/26/23 12:52 AM (1 year, 11 months ago)

I wouldn't spawn those jars, top fruit them.

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    #28157927 - 01/26/23 06:39 AM (1 year, 11 months ago)

Popcorn is one of the worst grains imo.


I rarely see good looking popcorn jars, and it seems to be very difficult to hydrate correctly. I know a lot of places there’s not much choice but I would try to find bird seed or something for next time.


The myc in the wet jar actually looks healthiest to me so far which makes me wonder if the others aren’t hydrated enough.


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Re: New Grower. How do these spawn look? Normal? Bacterial? Ty [Re: CommanderDemander]
    #28158925 - 01/26/23 07:32 PM (1 year, 11 months ago)

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Popcorn is one of the worst grains imo.


I rarely see good looking popcorn jars, and it seems to be very difficult to hydrate correctly. I know a lot of places there’s not much choice but I would try to find bird seed or something for next time.


The myc in the wet jar actually looks healthiest to me so far which makes me wonder if the others aren’t hydrated enough.



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Wet grain pressed against the jar seems to be indication of bacterial infection. So I vote yes on bacterial but I would wait for other more experienced members to voice their opinions.




Not necessarily bacterial- though too wet is not good.  The wetness is pretty clear,  keep an eye out for the wet grain against glass to have a milky look to it.

Right After shaking is when I try to get a whif of the jar thru the filter (not always possible).


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Re: New Grower. How do these spawn look? Normal? Bacterial? Ty [Re: LewDoja]
    #28159245 - 01/26/23 11:22 PM (1 year, 11 months ago)

Thanks for all the helpful replies!

So, they colonized more after the shake and I decided to send two to shoebox and the most wet one to top fruit. Let's see if I can get some fruits out of them.

For now I just inoculated some WBS. Hope I have better luck with those.

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Re: New Grower. How do these spawn look? Normal? Bacterial? Ty [Re: jorvall81]
    #28159254 - 01/26/23 11:28 PM (1 year, 11 months ago)

I also have another jar that looks normal, I think, but the growth has been very very slow.

They were inoculated 16 days ago, agar transfer.

Temp 65F. Is it normal for it to be this slow?


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Re: New Grower. How do these spawn look? Normal? Bacterial? Ty [Re: jorvall81]
    #28159263 - 01/26/23 11:58 PM (1 year, 11 months ago)

Slow colonization generally indicates the mycelium is fighting with a competitor of sorts.

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Re: New Grower. How do these spawn look? Normal? Bacterial? Ty [Re: DERRAYLD]
    #28159383 - 01/27/23 06:30 AM (1 year, 11 months ago)

It could just be slow from the 65f temps.  Since there's no obvious molds or bacteria signs, I would shake it up and see how it responds.  It will likely take off once more inoculation points are created.

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Re: New Grower. How do these spawn look? Normal? Bacterial? Ty [Re: PBJ710]
    #28159458 - 01/27/23 07:55 AM (1 year, 11 months ago)

That jar looks good.

The temp is definitely too low, ime anything below 70 starts to slow significantly


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Re: New Grower. How do these spawn look? Normal? Bacterial? Ty [Re: A.k.a]
    #28161420 - 01/28/23 01:52 PM (1 year, 11 months ago)

Well, this one sure as hell is going outside into a bucket filled with chloride.


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Re: New Grower. How do these spawn look? Normal? Bacterial? Ty [Re: jorvall81]
    #28182157 - 02/11/23 10:50 AM (1 year, 10 months ago)

So, sent both "healthy" looking ones 2 weeks ago.

This is the most active one, how does it look? good? bad?




The other one is pretty much half of that, in terms of growth.

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Re: New Grower. How do these spawn look? Normal? Bacterial? Ty [Re: jorvall81]
    #28183328 - 02/12/23 01:29 AM (1 year, 10 months ago)

Seems to be knotting up so you should have pins in a couple days


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Re: New Grower. How do these spawn look? Normal? Bacterial? Ty [Re: A.k.a]
    #28183349 - 02/12/23 02:53 AM (1 year, 10 months ago)

Never tried popcorn, seen a lot of people that swear by it tho. I mean I got a Presto 23qt PC on the way right now but generally speaking what grains are preferred for someone that can only get to 13psi? I'm running rye now and want to try wbs soon


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Re: New Grower. How do these spawn look? Normal? Bacterial? Ty [Re: og369] * 1
    #28183352 - 02/12/23 02:58 AM (1 year, 10 months ago)

Popcorn is the last one I’d use with low psi. The bigger the grain the tougher to sterilize.


Wbs or maybe even rice should be fine. With wbs just make sure it’s thoroughly hydrated and pull up a chart to see how long it needs to run for 13 psi. Prob like 2-2.5 hours.


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