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changa question. chonga?
    #28149610 - 01/20/23 09:01 PM (1 year, 7 days ago)

So... I am thinking I'll make some changa.
Anyone order the maoi from Amazon? Looks like I can get one gram of harmaline hcl for around 20$. Is this the kind you smoke or eat?
If anyone has a better idea I'm all ears.:thumbup:


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Re: changa question. chonga? [Re: GenericHero] * 1
    #28149690 - 01/20/23 10:20 PM (1 year, 7 days ago)

Never bought it there, but HCL is an acid salt. You want freebase for making changa. You can base it and filter it, tho little costs so much.

I put notes together for better harmala extraction.


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Re: changa question. chonga? [Re: Northerner]
    #28149731 - 01/20/23 11:18 PM (1 year, 6 days ago)

parts of a conversation are coming back to me...
syrian rue seeds sold as incense or dye perhaps? at indian grocery stores maybe.
i might check out one tomorrow.
thanks for the link


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Re: changa question. chonga? [Re: GenericHero] * 1
    #28149785 - 01/21/23 12:00 AM (1 year, 6 days ago)

Syrian rue sold as incense from Asian stores is a great place to get it. :thumbup:


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Re: changa question. chonga? [Re: Northerner]
    #28150031 - 01/21/23 05:11 AM (1 year, 6 days ago)

Thanks for the tek northern. I am very dissatisfied with my current rue extract. Just a simple salt manske. Low purity too much plant material. Think I will be making some fresh stuff soon. To be able to smoke it instead of more drugs in my stomach would be fantastic


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Re: changa question. chonga? [Re: Northerner]
    #28150534 - 01/21/23 12:36 PM (1 year, 6 days ago)

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Syrian rue sold as incense from Asian stores is a great place to get it. :thumbup:




Will it be sold as seeds or powdered?


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Re: changa question. chonga? [Re: GenericHero] * 1
    #28150728 - 01/21/23 02:45 PM (1 year, 6 days ago)

Whole seeds. Quite often it'll be labelled espand or esfand on the packet in these sort of stores. Same thing though.


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Re: changa question. chonga? [Re: Northerner] * 2
    #28150857 - 01/21/23 05:05 PM (1 year, 6 days ago)

"espand or esfand" I was able to find a seller online with these terms.
I went to several Asian markets and one Indian mart, they all told me they didn't have it. One guy told me they had it but in boxes rather than bags. He took me to a chicken stock display.
Thanks for the info and the tek, Northerner. Much appreciated.


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Re: changa question. chonga? [Re: GenericHero] * 1
    #28151517 - 01/22/23 04:58 AM (1 year, 5 days ago)

Chicken stock. :lol:

We call Indian and Pakistani shops here Asian, but it's not the same as east Asian like the Chinese and Japanese. Middle Eastern stores also stock it though.

Glad you found what you looking for anyway mate. Be patient with that extraction and you'll do well.  :awesomenod:

Something I've been thinking about doing is bringing the water hot then throwing the seed bag in then letting it soak 24 hours before pressure cooking. I've had inconsistent results getting all the alkaloids on the first cook and have suspected it's due to dryer seeds in some instances. This might help eliminate that variable. If you want to try that please let me know how you go. Thanks.


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Re: changa question. chonga? [Re: Northerner] * 1
    #28151986 - 01/22/23 11:19 AM (1 year, 5 days ago)

Yeah, around here Asian means Chinese or something.

When I get the seeds I'll try out your suggestion.


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Re: changa question. chonga? [Re: GenericHero]
    #28152703 - 01/22/23 07:12 PM (1 year, 5 days ago)

I was just looking at prices locally. $9 a kg at one genuine place and all these hundreds of exploiters selling it for $9-$12 per 100g. Fucken shysters.

Last time I got it I paid ~$12kg iirc.

I hope you found legit pricing on it. It seems that scalpers are feeding on that market as well.

It's so tempting to buy in a mob of 50kg sacks and flood the market with it at proper prices. Got my hands in too many pies already at the moment tho.


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Re: changa question. chonga? [Re: Northerner]
    #28152713 - 01/22/23 07:23 PM (1 year, 5 days ago)


I went with this

12$ a kg. Lol I got ripped off.


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Re: changa question. chonga? [Re: GenericHero]
    #28152719 - 01/22/23 07:25 PM (1 year, 5 days ago)

How much was it?


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Re: changa question. chonga? [Re: Northerner]
    #28152726 - 01/22/23 07:28 PM (1 year, 5 days ago)

It says it's a three-pack. 25$ for the order. I have no idea how much the packs weigh, there was very little information on the page.


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Re: changa question. chonga? [Re: GenericHero]
    #28152731 - 01/22/23 07:30 PM (1 year, 5 days ago)

Says 113g on the pack.

Saw this here in Aus. Will no doubt need to call them to get it to send though. These people are selling for cultural reasons and won't post to just anyone.

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Re: changa question. chonga? [Re: Northerner]
    #28152749 - 01/22/23 07:40 PM (1 year, 5 days ago)

Hey you're right. Eagle eyes.

I'll keep that link around. Do they ship to the states?


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Re: changa question. chonga? [Re: GenericHero]
    #28152762 - 01/22/23 07:49 PM (1 year, 5 days ago)

Nah, they won't. Not a chance. If you speak Arabic they'll probably sort you out with their Iran or Lebanon connect to get your own for $1 per kg.

I've bought off these sort of stores before, but you have to speak to them nice and convince them you're not a druggie. :grin: You can probably find traditional stores like that States side too mate.

Turkish will sell you 100kg for $100 too, If you feel like making a little side cash flogging it off.

https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/Harmala_50034640293.html?spm=a2700.7724857.0.0.499c8cb7qo8tYJ

Or you can nab a bargain for 10c a kilo from the Indians, 5kg min purchase... lol

https://www.indiamart.com/proddetail/peganum-harmala-esfand-wild-rue-syrian-rue-13850278612.html?pos=2&pla=n&blform=1


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Re: changa question. chonga? [Re: Northerner]
    #28152947 - 01/22/23 10:03 PM (1 year, 5 days ago)

I wonder what kind of attention that would draw. Ordering 100kg of Syrian rue.


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    #28152976 - 01/22/23 10:25 PM (1 year, 5 days ago)

It's totally legal man. If you get your biosecurity import permit and it gets shipped with the delivery you get your seeds and everyone is happy.

For $15k you could get 8 metric ton of it shipped to you brother. Become the Syrian Rue kingpin of the states. :awesome:


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Re: changa question. chonga? [Re: Northerner]
    #28153208 - 01/23/23 05:31 AM (1 year, 4 days ago)

And coocain in south America is cheap too. How do we get it here?


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